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Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Midjack posted:

pretty much that, they couldn't cash any of it out without getting shut down so they had a bunch of small amounts trapped in banks and exchanges all over the place, and then the feds decrypted their confiscated files after a year and got the private keys to the addresses that held the bulk of it and that was it.

Amateurs who could not work with mules, shameful.

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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Volmarias posted:

Amateurs who could not work with mules, shameful.

i think those attempts to rap are the most shameful part of the whole deal, honestly.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
idk stealing bitcoin seems like a victimless crime

El Mero Mero
Oct 13, 2001

mystes posted:

I don't see how this affects anything? They'll check their logs to see what IP address downloaded the copy with the unique id that was posted on scihub, get the university to identify whose computer it was, and then sue them or get the government to prosecute them.

I was a work study student at my uni who was assigned to handle these. We'd get a nastygram that an IP address somewhere on campus was downloading Metallica.mp3 and I was supposed to trace out the external IP to the internal IP to the mac address and then...idk..notify the RA? We were told tracing was sufficient to show we tried for legal purposes.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

El Mero Mero posted:

I was a work study student at my uni who was assigned to handle these. We'd get a nastygram that an IP address somewhere on campus was downloading Metallica.mp3 and I was supposed to trace out the external IP to the internal IP to the mac address and then...idk..notify the RA? We were told tracing was sufficient to show we tried for legal purposes.

friend of mine's dad ran (still runs I think?) a local niche ISP and would take DMCA requests very seriously by looking real hard at the IP address and then assuring the RIAA or whoever that they looked real hard at the IP address

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Phone posted:

idk stealing bitcoin seems like a victimless crime

brains
May 12, 2004

Phone posted:

idk stealing bitcoin seems like a victimless crime

it sure seems like a moneyless crime too

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

brains posted:

it sure seems like a moneyless crime too

"bad at crime" is not something I'd expect out of bitcoin

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006
https://youtu.be/fUFOE0RgTCw?t=3m12s

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006
3m13s

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013





reported

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

Shame Boy posted:

friend of mine's dad ran (still runs I think?) a local niche ISP and would take DMCA requests very seriously by looking real hard at the IP address and then assuring the RIAA or whoever that they looked real hard at the IP address

cool dad

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

evil_bunnY posted:

This is also loving useless because all big unis can download poo poo without authentication. Whaddayougonnado, cut off berkeley from your papers? Fuckouta here.

i'm sure there's something more complex, but for papers that are just your bog-standard documents (pdf, etc) couldn't you just download it from multiple locations and compare the changes?

nevermind that the ransomware excuse is completely inane

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Shame Boy posted:

more appropriate to this thread: they apparently kept all their illegal crime money wallets on a cloud storage drive, so the DOJ was just like "yoink" lmao

"Its the cloud, nobody will suspect a thing"

The Feds suspected a thing.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Zamujasa posted:

i'm sure there's something more complex, but for papers that are just your bog-standard documents (pdf, etc) couldn't you just download it from multiple locations and compare the changes?

nevermind that the ransomware excuse is completely inane

comedy option: the "fingerprinting" is just gonna be something like "we inserted your ip address as white text on a white background on the first page"

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Shame Boy posted:

friend of mine's dad ran (still runs I think?) a local niche ISP and would take DMCA requests very seriously by looking real hard at the IP address and then assuring the RIAA or whoever that they looked real hard at the IP address
The hero we need.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


Shame Boy posted:

comedy option: the "fingerprinting" is just gonna be something like "we inserted your ip address as white text on a white background on the first page"

i wouldnt be surprised if they dont do anything at all and just want to scare people

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



duz posted:

i wouldnt be surprised if they dont do anything at all and just want to scare people

it's a trick to get people to post possible methods and they'll use the best one and claim it was totally their idea

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


Shame Boy posted:

friend of mine's dad ran (still runs I think?) a local niche ISP and would take DMCA requests very seriously by looking real hard at the IP address and then assuring the RIAA or whoever that they looked real hard at the IP address

As a student I worked in my large state university's student conduct office right when the RIAA and MPAA we're at the peak of their notify ISPs and sue copyright infringers phase. We got so many notifications of students uploading content that got referred to us to punish the student for allegedly misusing university resources to do illegal things.

Unfortunately university IT was stupendously bad at their jobs. You'd think it would be easy to take a time stamp and IP, look to see which student account was assigned that IP at that time, and report it. But, about 40% of the time they somehow got it wrong. Among other things they apparently did not know time zones existed so they wouldn't normalize timestamps between the time of the reported alleged violation and the dhcp logs.

No one in the office was technically inclined so they uncritically accepted the word of whichever failed upward into an unfireable government job IT boomer did the "investigation". Nothing like seeing one of the ex military lawyers we had working for student conduct going full "few good men" on some poor student who insists it's all a mistake before I grab the file and go "IT hosed up again these are the wrong logs".

I put together a training module to teach everyone their how ip addresses and dhcp work so they could review themselves but everyone ignored it and kept saying "computers are just too complicated for me to figure this out. I'll just ask you if I have any questions".

I shudder to think how many college kids got hosed over when I wasn't there to catch ITs fuckups. The whole thing was the second worst miscarriage of justice I saw in that office.

The worst was (TW: discussions of sexual violence) the university letting students commiting rape and relationship violence off with warnings because the female administrators insisted that women who are genuinely abused would leave, that battered spouse syndrome is made up nonsense that infantilizes women into having no agency, and that we were naive young men for believing these dramatic relationship drama stories rooted in feminine immaturity.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

this sounds like something smoka would post lol

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Soylent Pudding posted:

As a student I worked in my large state university's student conduct office right when the RIAA and MPAA we're at the peak of their notify ISPs and sue copyright infringers phase. We got so many notifications of students uploading content that got referred to us to punish the student for allegedly misusing university resources to do illegal things.

Unfortunately university IT was stupendously bad at their jobs. You'd think it would be easy to take a time stamp and IP, look to see which student account was assigned that IP at that time, and report it. But, about 40% of the time they somehow got it wrong. Among other things they apparently did not know time zones existed so they wouldn't normalize timestamps between the time of the reported alleged violation and the dhcp logs.

No one in the office was technically inclined so they uncritically accepted the word of whichever failed upward into an unfireable government job IT boomer did the "investigation". Nothing like seeing one of the ex military lawyers we had working for student conduct going full "few good men" on some poor student who insists it's all a mistake before I grab the file and go "IT hosed up again these are the wrong logs".

I put together a training module to teach everyone their how ip addresses and dhcp work so they could review themselves but everyone ignored it and kept saying "computers are just too complicated for me to figure this out. I'll just ask you if I have any questions".

I shudder to think how many college kids got hosed over when I wasn't there to catch ITs fuckups. The whole thing was the second worst miscarriage of justice I saw in that office.

The worst was (TW: discussions of sexual violence) the university letting students commiting rape and relationship violence off with warnings because the female administrators insisted that women who are genuinely abused would leave, that battered spouse syndrome is made up nonsense that infantilizes women into having no agency, and that we were naive young men for believing these dramatic relationship drama stories rooted in feminine immaturity.

Wouldn't surprise me if they got it wrong because their DHCP least time was 8 hours or less. This is a common problem with identifying devices based on IP alone using DHCP records.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

That last, spoilered bit is infuriating

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Soylent Pudding posted:

The worst was (TW: discussions of sexual violence) the university letting students commiting rape and relationship violence off with warnings because the female administrators insisted that women who are genuinely abused would leave, that battered spouse syndrome is made up nonsense that infantilizes women into having no agency, and that we were naive young men for believing these dramatic relationship drama stories rooted in feminine immaturity.

:killing:

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

i bet she considers herself to be a feminist too lmao

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
girlboss mindset

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
When I was in the dorms in 2001 at UT Austin I downloaded and uploaded poo poo on limewire/kazaa whatever constantly and was never served with a notice. The students did have a bandwidth cap, but that was completely unrelated to copyright infringement. I assume the university threw them in the trash and were under no obligation to do provide anything to whatever copyright chaser group. but idk.

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



one of my grad school roommates got our internet shut off because he got a movie or game or something from emule. i told them 'yeah he's from a place with very lax copyright enforcement, ill talk to him' and then i did and there weren't any more problems. i know he still pirated poo poo like mad (i did too) but dont know if he VPNd it or just stopped using emule. id download movies for him occasionally :shrug:

this would've been 2008-2009 school year

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




my college throttled p2p protocol globally, to 128 kilobits per second, on a 3 megabit dorm connection. i had state isp technician install like 100 feet of wiring to get normal dsl from the basement to my dorm room on the second week of freshman year

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




i do mean 128 kilobit, not 128 kilobyte, if you wonder

Plorkyeran
Mar 22, 2007

To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed
in college i once uploaded ~2.5 TB overnight and got an email from it telling me to set a maximum ratio in my torrent client or they'd start throttling me

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
in college i got a letter saying "what the gently caress is a torrent? according to our records these won't be invented for seven years"

Truman Peyote
Oct 11, 2006



they're pretty serious about copyright infringement in germany, and people can and do get fines for torrenting poo poo. my landlord warned me about this, explaining that the person who'd had my apartment before me was fined €1000 for pirating the movie "san andreas" starring dwayne the rock johnson

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Truman Peyote posted:

they're pretty serious about copyright infringement in germany, and people can and do get fines for torrenting poo poo. my landlord warned me about this, explaining that the person who'd had my apartment before me was fined €1000 for pirating the movie "san andreas" starring dwayne the rock johnson

my childhood friend had cto walk into dev open office and announce “listen here, you fucks. if ceo shows me another letter of fine issued for torrenting terminator 2 from our ip region, i will actually read the logs to figure out who did that”

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






when i was interning at a college I had a 100mbit symmetric connection available to me, so i torrented the poo poo out of everything and got a great ratio on torrentbits. one of the servers I admined got hacked and was serving german porn scene rips which I used as cover for the bandwidth usage when I got caught

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


Shame Boy posted:

friend of mine's dad ran (still runs I think?) a local niche ISP and would take DMCA requests very seriously by looking real hard at the IP address and then assuring the RIAA or whoever that they looked real hard at the IP address

One of the local-ish ISPs here has a DMCA form letter that basically says "we are legally obligated to inform you that someone at the RIAA or something is real mad about your IP. Having sent you this email, we have discharged our legal obligations and aren't going to do jack poo poo else. have fun"

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



ToxicFrog posted:

One of the local-ish ISPs here has a DMCA form letter that basically says "we are legally obligated to inform you that someone at the RIAA or something is real mad about your IP. Having sent you this email, we have discharged our legal obligations and aren't going to do jack poo poo else. have fun"

that's basically what the canadian ISPs send you. "you pissed off some americans, and we have to tell you about it, but other than that we don't care and frankly we don't pay for HBO either"

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

spankmeister posted:

when i was interning at a college I had a 100mbit symmetric connection available to me, so i torrented the poo poo out of everything and got a great ratio on torrentbits. one of the servers I admined got hacked and was serving german porn scene rips which I used as cover for the bandwidth usage when I got caught
Lol same reason I have an open guest network (that goes nowhere).

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

ToxicFrog posted:

One of the local-ish ISPs here has a DMCA form letter that basically says "we are legally obligated to inform you that someone at the RIAA or something is real mad about your IP. Having sent you this email, we have discharged our legal obligations and aren't going to do jack poo poo else. have fun"

That's the dream.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Plorkyeran posted:

in college i once uploaded ~2.5 TB overnight and got an email from it telling me to set a maximum ratio in my torrent client or they'd start throttling me

In university we had metered downloads but unmetered uploads.
I had 56K at home (with only one phone line too) and had a very hard time making ratio.

I would take the latest episodes of Arrested Development and Las Vegas to university, connect to the VPN and seed them all day. :cool:

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Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


By happenstance, I ended up talking with someone who was a fellow student working in the student conduct office this evening. I mentioned some of the hosed up poo poo I posted earlier today to ask what they remembered. If we're remembering people correctly, an administrator and dean I posted about earlier resigned in an embezzlement scandal and her now ex-husband, despite being tenured, was fired from his notoriously sex pest friendly department for being too egregious of a sex pest.

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