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Number_6 posted:Since the overall performance of all cars depends heavily on the tires, I'm kind of surprised there isn't a running thread (at least, that I could find) for this topic. We can discuss and debate the top tires in each category; the best "bang for the buck" tire in each category; etc. Race tires, summer tires, HP all-seasons, touring, winter, off road, etc. Goons can discuss their experience with their own personal choice of rubber. It could have a silly thread title like "Tires: Where the rubber meets the road" or "Steel-Belted Radial Insanity" or whatever. 15 days below freezing would probably be enough to persuade me not to run a summer tire, but I've almost always lived in places where it snows in the winter and thus have summer tires and winter tires. I strongly disagree that winter tires only benefit you if other people have them. Yes, other people can still do stupid things, but you are better able to react to those stupid things, and you are less likely to do something stupid yourself. I used to run snow tires in NC since I had them anyway, and the two times a year that it was snowy and icy it was a massive benefit, even if other people did not have snow tires and were crashing all over the place like the idiots they were.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2019 15:58 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 02:00 |
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the PS4S is gods own tire
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 23:09 |
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I have Goodyear Eagle F1s on the Focus ST and Michelin Pilot Sport 4S on the M5, and the Pilot Sports are vastly better tires in every circumstance I can find except maybe tire wear, but I will chalk up at least part of that to the fact that the M5 is a two ton fatty. The F1s firm up more in cold weather (~40) than the PS4s. Aren't you in Indiana? I wouldn't bother with an all-season if you have a separate winter car. Just don't drive like a moron on the off chance it gets a little cold.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2019 18:40 |
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LRADIKAL posted:Do we do recommendations here? do not buy winter tires unless you buy all four winter tires will reduce your range - kind of up to you. i think either OEM summer + winter tires is fine, or a well rated cold weather all season is probably fine. kind of depends on what type of driving you are doing.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2019 06:29 |
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all tires are fine on dirt and gravel at the speeds you ought to be driving on dirt and gravel you should be running 195-60-15s which is the stock size on the 99 impreza non WRX edition For winter, General Altimax Arctics are good, and pretty inexpensive. But you'll pretty well be fine in your situation with anything that is cheap and from a name brand. Don't buy a hardo winter tire like the Hakkapeliitta.
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2019 18:41 |
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provided you can clear your brakes, going -1 or even -2 gets you a narrower, smaller diameter wheel for better performance and lower tire and wheel cost. I've usually gone -1. I don't particularly trust used rims since it's hard to visually inspect for issues that will effect tire seating. i just bought new winter tires and new alloy wheels for a car for like 800 bucks from tire rack. not bad.
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2019 15:40 |
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BraveUlysses posted:you end up decreasing the wheel diameter which is accommodated by increasing the sidewall height so that you end up with a wheel diameter that is very close to your original wheel diameter this, essentially. My Golf has default 17" wheels with 205/55 tires. When I put 16" wheels on for winter, they have 205/65 tires. The summer wheel has a total diameter of approximately 17 + 2(8.07 * 0.55) for a total diameter of 25.9". The winter wheel has a total diameter of approximately 16 + 2(8.07 * 0.65), total diameter of 26.5". It's a little off but it's not too far. I also don't mind the slight increase in ride height because ground clearance is nice in the snow. Note that tires are expressed as a width (first number, mm) and the sidewall height as a percentage of the width. So a 205/55 has a shorter sidewall than a 215/55. width matters more for contact patch than diameter.
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2019 20:36 |
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MrOnBicycle posted:So I'm looking at buying a new car that has stock tire dimension of 215/55R17. Seems like it's a slightly odd size, because the Continental WinterContact TS 860 are hard to find (if not impossible) in that size. It's available in 225/50 R17 though. Should be very close in final diameter according to calculators, but what about the extra width? How much "play" is there with tire widths? Is there some reason you're stuck on the TS 860s? you can also stretch a 205/55R17 on that wheel size.
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2019 21:00 |
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i for one would not get that hyped up about a specific brand of nonperformance tire but good for you
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2019 21:32 |
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just got close out Blizzak WS80s on wheels for the new golf. however: tire rack sent me 8.
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# ¿ Sep 27, 2019 17:53 |
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sharkytm posted:Sweet. They're yours to keep if you want them, legally. i prefer getting my money back though since it also has a separate set of wheels
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2019 15:43 |
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yeah they invoiced me twice
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2019 16:33 |
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the hakkas are fantastic in acutal snow but i found they wore quickly in moderate temps and were noisy in addition to not being very good in the dry. this is a few years back, though.
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2019 21:18 |
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yeah I was going to say i think my longest-lived set of tires got maybe 20k miles? WS90s are on the Alltrack and it's snowed quite a bit in SEMI. They seem good so far. Not too loud in the dry, either.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2019 21:27 |
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Ultimate Mango posted:In other news, I’m taking my Michelin Pilot Sport 4s through some cold but probably not snow tomorrow (luckily the I-15N not the I-5/grapevine). I shouldn’t expect much pucker factor, right? don't drive like an idiot and you'll be fine (fairly standard advice) dry and cold is fine, the tires are firm but they grip OK and as long as you aren't pushing it you'll be fine. wet and cold is less good but i would not anticipate any pucker factor until you get to snow and cold - but no matter what the freeway tends to stay relatively clear and dry due to traffic.
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2019 13:59 |
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what the gently caress
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2019 16:00 |
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ps4s will spoil you for any other street performance tire especially in a big heavy car
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2020 14:03 |
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don't get studs I have WS80s i think (poo poo, maybe they're WS90s) and they're perfectly good in the snow, not too noisy on the highway, and decent in the rain. they do not corner all that well on my golf alltrack but keep in mind my ref point for cornering is an M5 with PS4S. edit: the X-Ice is a better tire if it snows more but i live in little bitch winter SEMI so it is damp and rainy just as much as it snows even though everyone here thinks they're all hard about winter
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2020 19:49 |
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taqueso posted:I thought some brands had full sticky compound and some have half sticky half normal all-season rubber? Seems worthwhile to check that out at least. compromises are lovely
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2020 19:51 |
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snow fuckin rules
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2020 22:13 |
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do a bunch of burnouts
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# ¿ Apr 9, 2020 18:24 |
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meatpimp posted:Can I whine about tires in this thread? Just took the winter wheels off the Escalade and put the 20" chromes back on, because , and saw some dry rot between the treads. 2014 Michelins, looks like this is their last season. How's the wear other than that? Six seasons is about as long as I've managed to keep any tires.
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# ¿ May 23, 2020 22:07 |
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I can't imagine getting six seasons out of pretty much anything, but I guess I generally prioritize all other metrics over treadware/life, and I only buy Michelin summer tires so if they make it to 20k miles it's a miracle.
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# ¿ May 26, 2020 14:38 |
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If you can avoid driving the one or two days a year when things get nasty, Michelin Pilot Sport AS/3s will do very well, and bias much further towards the sport end of things.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2020 23:33 |
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Charles posted:How often do those rebates for 4 tires come along? I see Michelin has $70 until the 12th. I'll need to get snow tires (& wheels) eventually but it's a long way to winter here. like, all the time
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2020 13:54 |
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I had X-Ices on a couple of cars over the years. The snow performance is not quite as good as a hard core snow tire like the Hakkapeliitta but they are relatively inexpensive, do very well in wet, and are relatively good on dry and warmer pavement.
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2020 17:04 |
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An issue with what? You'll have some small speedo error but probably not enough to truly notice
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2021 19:36 |
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Get the one replaced with the same thing and get it shaved would be my recommendation. Most tire places will do that for 25 bucks.
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2021 19:27 |
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in that case you can order a tire from tire rack that's shaved for installation at one of their independent shops
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2021 19:47 |
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for installation at a local they should have ship to store options once you buy the tire for shaving i think you may have to call them but they have very decent customer support
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2021 20:30 |
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how do you not figure out to use a stick and mark it and then measure the distance from the end of the stick to the mark
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2021 20:48 |
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Uthor posted:I've been dealing with "it's 2" and three little lines" for longer than I remember. "How much is a line, are they 1/8ths or 1/16ths or 1/32ds?!?!" you did the right thing
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2021 21:27 |
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Charles posted:Can I use an obd2 Bluetooth dongle to re-pair the TPMS sensors? Tire shop didn't do it or it didn't work, now there's a ton of traffic and don't feel like driving for another hour. what car is it? for most cars there's a dashboard based pairing process. on my Focus it was to mash and hold the magic cheat code buttons in some sequence and then they would register.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2021 17:26 |
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bad_fmr posted:Yeah I get that. But why would you need different resolutions on a ruler like that? Why not just use the finest one since all the others are simple divisions of it? shockingly what some random old lady has for sewing sweaters is not suitable for building and engineering, who ever could have guessed?
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 16:58 |
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I don't think I'd bother, living in Baltimore, unless I really wanted to run dedicated summer tires.
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2021 15:47 |
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central illinois has worse weather and more snow than Baltimore, I bet Baltimore's probably good for a shellacking every other year or so but the whole joint is pretty shut down at that point anyway
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2021 18:29 |
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effort is the main downside
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2021 16:00 |
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nitsuga posted:Outside of appearances, I don’t think there’s any compelling reason to run alloys. I ran steelies on my Golf and had no complaints. If you’re near MN I actually have the set I was running and would certainly give you a deal on them. I used alloys because they're lighter to manhandle and the lug nuts don't rust to the wheel as easily, and I was able to find tolerable alloys for $100 each which was not much of a premium to the steelies. Racing Stripe posted:Okay, thanks for the info. I was assuming Tire Rack would be cheaper since you have to do some of the legwork yourself, but it doesn't really sound like that's necessarily the case. I just joined Costco and I hadn't thought about going there for car service, but I'll check them out for tires. for tires I was looking at, Costco was not all that cheap, so just make sure you cross-shop and don't assume they're gonna be the cheapest.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2021 16:27 |
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sanchez posted:winter tires I've mostly driven X-Ices and WSX series tires in amateur hour snow conditions, and X-Ices and Hakkas in the land of my youth with 140" snow a year. Both the X-Ices and WS90s should be just fine for your purposes. I find the WS80s that I have on my Golf to be a bit quieter and better in the dry than the X-Ices at the expense of absolute bad weather performance but I would essentially buy whichever is cheaper.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2021 16:14 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 02:00 |
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are they a different size than your previous tires?
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2022 14:07 |