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Pneub
Mar 12, 2007

I'M THE DEVIL, AND I WILL WASH OVER THE EARTH AND THE SEAS WILL RUN RED WITH THE BLOOD OF ALL THE SINNERS

I AM REBORN

Turbinosamente posted:

I'm pretty sure they had Richard Kiel dub the line in after the fact since he couldn't talk with the teeth in. Here's a random Letterman interview from the 80s to compare: https://youtu.be/666ZjLucACg

Ehhhhhh... not quite. That's goddamn Leslie Nielsen.

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Weasling Weasel
Oct 20, 2010
So, I guess spoilers if you want to go into the new film completely fresh, but Lashana Lynch of Captain Marvel film fame, will be playing Agent 007 in the film, presumably as a the replacement Mi6 Agent while Bond is off in Jamaica being retired, and it's upset the usual suspects.

Violator
May 15, 2003


Weasling Weasel posted:

So, I guess spoilers if you want to go into the new film completely fresh, but Lashana Lynch of Captain Marvel film fame, will be playing Agent 007 in the film, presumably as a the replacement Mi6 Agent while Bond is off in Jamaica being retired, and it's upset the usual suspects.

More details here, including a title guess and some rumored plot details.

https://www.okayplayer.com/culture/report-lashana-lynch-cast-first-ever-black-female-007-upcoming-bond-film.html

PST
Jul 5, 2012

If only Milliband had eaten a vegan sausage roll instead of a bacon sandwich, we wouldn't be in this mess.

The chud's outrage about this is both amusing and utterly predictable. People who claim they're very invested in Bond, who don't know what a 00 agent is and can't read even the clickbait article they're raging about.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

PST posted:

The chud's outrage about this is both amusing and utterly predictable. People who claim they're very invested in Bond, who don't know what a 00 agent is and can't read even the clickbait article they're raging about.

It doesn't help that most of the headlines I've seen re: the rumour are actively courting that kind of reaction, which is its own kind of gross.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Yeah, 70 percent of the articles purposely headline it as her being the new James Bond, which then draw a bunch of comments from people too stupid to read past a headline.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Honestly it sounds like just a similar situation to Skyfall where Naomi Harris was working as an agent for a while before she hosed up and almost killed Bond. The chuds are getting worked up for nothing because it'll probably play out in a similar way that makes the woman of color look incompetent compared to Bond.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

AstroWhale posted:

If you haven't Dr.No for a long time, you should do it again. It could have been a low budget disaster, but no, they pulled it off. And the fish in Dr. No's aquarium were just stock footage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._No_(film)#Production

Thankfully they cut some scenes from the book, like the fight agains the squid. Bond and Honey are also naked on the island, but they could obviously not film that. Also Bond doesn't explain why the mix of Blacks (can you guess the word I replaced?) and Chinese are the worst people ever :catstare:.

Also, Octopussy is great. Jojo-Saw for the win.

The scene early on Dr No when he checks the room for bugs is a wonderful short film in its own right and establishes that Bond has done this before, many times, without a single word of dialog

The Ultimate Doge
May 1, 2019

by Nyc_Tattoo
I'll watch the movie if she's a true female 007, i.e. she meets a guy named Max Dickwidth and suavely says "mm, is that a fact"

The Ultimate Doge
May 1, 2019

by Nyc_Tattoo
Did anyone here post the tweet where he says the new 007 is why men are killing themselves

Simplex
Jun 29, 2003

This just seems like the dumbest kind of pandering, where you have two groups who are on the opposite side of an issue and the solution doesn't actually address either of those groups concerns.

CrimsonAuthor
Nov 14, 2006

The Ultimate Doge posted:

I'll watch the movie if she's a true female 007, i.e. she meets a guy named Max Dickwidth and suavely says "mm, is that a fact"

A man, finishing bathing, asks her to hand him something to wear and she gives him a little bow-tie

The Ultimate Doge
May 1, 2019

by Nyc_Tattoo

CrimsonAuthor posted:

A man, finishing bathing, asks her to hand him something to wear and she gives him a little bow-tie

Lol

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

The scene early on Dr No when he checks the room for bugs is a wonderful short film in its own right and establishes that Bond has done this before, many times, without a single word of dialog

Yea that scene and then the stuff with the suitcase in From Russia With Love are peak Bond for me, they've never really managed to get back to that kinda thing since then. Tradecraft!

Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Jul 16, 2019

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

I like when he's shown as his true job as an assassin, as in the beginning of Living Daylights or Casino Royale.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost

Gatts posted:

Jane Bond: “So what’s your name, slut?”
Bond Boy 1: “Buttercup, Buttface Buttercup.”
Jane Bond: “And you?”
Bond Boy 2: “It doesn’t matter, I exist only as a living Vibrator to be discarded after use.”
Jane Bond: “Just the way I like them.”

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Darko posted:

I like when he's shown as his true job as an assassin, as in the beginning of Living Daylights or Casino Royale.

Well that's another reason why Dr. No is great, it has maybe the best example of that in the whole series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YELwJtgDkO8

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Basebf555 posted:

Honestly it sounds like just a similar situation to Skyfall where Naomi Harris was working as an agent for a while before she hosed up and almost killed Bond. The chuds are getting worked up for nothing because it'll probably play out in a similar way that makes the woman of color look incompetent compared to Bond.

Yeah I read the description and had bad memories of Live and Let Die.

The Ultimate Doge
May 1, 2019

by Nyc_Tattoo
I have a feeling they're not going to have any fun with it at all though. It'll take itself even more seriously than the Craig movies

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Neo Rasa posted:

Yeah I read the description and had bad memories of Live and Let Die.

Oh god, that was the absolute worst. I just rewatched that and it was so annoying.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008


This is sexist against men! This is the beginning of the downfall of Western Civilization!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Bear in mind the only report of this has come from the Daily Mail.

You know, the online / print version of a shitposter.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I guess someone from Killing Eve is involved in Bond 25 somehow? Which is like, honestly, the best show that feels so much like a modern Bond-esque melodrama that makes everyone happy:

-Psychopathic sexy assassin who travels the world doing murders
-International secret society intrigue with plenty of twists and turns and backstabbing
-An ungodly amount of location porn
-EVIL RUSSIANS
-HOT FORBIDDEN LESBIAN LOVE PLOT
-Older woman of color in the leading role
-Incredibly funny with actual jokes
-A fair amount of guns and murder

So yeah, honestly, Killing Eve is the spy show that feels like such a modern rebuke of all the issues with Bond movies these days while feeling very much like it’s own thing. It’s good poo poo.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Basebf555 posted:

Yea that scene and then the stuff with the suitcase in From Russia With Love are peak Bond for me, they've never really managed to get back to that kinda thing since then. Tradecraft!

it’s a shame Bond never gets to do much spying anymore

AstroWhale
Mar 28, 2009

Basebf555 posted:

Yea that scene and then the stuff with the suitcase in From Russia With Love are peak Bond for me, they've never really managed to get back to that kinda thing since then. Tradecraft!

Until the escape from the train FRWL is flawless.
Edit: Okay, maybe the disco lights before the explosion are dated.

Spacebump
Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations
What's the worst post-Roger Moore Bond film? I've been watching each film in the franchise this summer. I haven't gotten to Die Another Day yet but I'm guessing either that or The World is Not Enough.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
You know as much as I was stoked by Craig in Casino Royale, he's been somewhat wasted. So was Brosnan. I think Dalton is the best Bond.

AstroWhale
Mar 28, 2009

Spacebump posted:

What's the worst post-Roger Moore Bond film? I've been watching each film in the franchise this summer. I haven't gotten to Die Another Day yet but I'm guessing either that or The World is Not Enough.

Die Another Day falls completly apart in the end and Halle Berry is bad. TWINE at least stays consistent and has some good ideas, like making the bond girl a villian.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Spacebump posted:

What's the worst post-Roger Moore Bond film? I've been watching each film in the franchise this summer. I haven't gotten to Die Another Day yet but I'm guessing either that or The World is Not Enough.

Die Another Day and Spectre are both utterly miserable slogs. TWINE is rough and way too long, and pretty much everyone but Robert Carlyle is sleepwalking through it, but it has enough cool set pieces and a killer theme song to be watchable.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Quantum of Solace is the obvious answer. It's a but cliche to hate on it but that movie was so, so bad. Just a mess in pretty much every area.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Timby posted:

Die Another Day and Spectre are both utterly miserable slogs. TWINE is rough and way too long, and pretty much everyone but Robert Carlyle is sleepwalking through it, but it has enough cool set pieces and a killer theme song to be watchable.

That poor lady from Starship Troopers(Denise Richards?), nobody likes her.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
Die Another Day is terrible in many ways (not least because it was fearfully reacting to the likes of loving xXx by going "Oh no! Bond is seen as old-fashioned and out of touch with da yoof! How can we counter this?" [Cues up drum 'n' bass backing track, skip-frames action sequences, powers up the PS2 for some cutting-edge CGI and brings in Madonna]) but some of the action is done well despite all the poo poo around it (the hovercraft chase, the swordfight), and you could argue that the North Koreans drowned Bond at the start of the titles and everything after is just the final spastic flare-up of his dying neurons, leading to the reboot.

Quantum of Solace, though, is just rushed, badly-edited, barely comprehensible garbage with a 'well, I know technically that's bad but it's not exactly world-hanging-on-a-knife-edge stuff, is it?' villainous plot that puts the camera in a tin bucket and kicks it around for 107 minutes while Daniel Craig glowers at people.

On the other hand, at least it was short, while Spectre just dragged on and on and on with not a moment of surprise or excitement through the whole thing. A boring Bond is arguably worse than a bad Bond. I'd rather watch Moonraker or, hell, Die Another Day again before Spectre.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Timby posted:

Die Another Day and Spectre are both utterly miserable slogs. TWINE is rough and way too long, and pretty much everyone but Robert Carlyle is sleepwalking through it, but it has enough cool set pieces and a killer theme song to be watchable.

All downhill from Goldeneye.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Colostomy Bag posted:

All downhill from Goldeneye.

:hmmyes:

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

Cacator posted:

Spectre has one of the best opening sequences in the series but it quickly falls apart after that (Radiohead's theme is far superior to the forgettable Sam Smith song for one thing), the car chase in Rome couldn't be more boring, Bautista was wasted, and the attempt to connect all of Craig's movies never felt anything more than contrived. The Austin Powers in Goldmember plot point (and the Star Trek Into Darkness "reveal" of Blofeld) were just pointless. Just let Blofeld be Blofeld for chrissakes, nobody cares. They shouldn't have put so much effort into Bond settling down with Madeleine Swann either because most of her dialogue boils down to "what's that?"

Edit: they also really let everyone in the theatre down when M says "guess we know what C stands for" and Ralph Fiennes DOESN’T say "oval office"

I want to know what idiot saw Star Trek Into Darkness and thought "oh that plot twist that even people who liked the movie thought was complete horseshit? WE SHOULD SO THAT TOO!"

That reminds me, though, how I've always had an odd mental association of James Bond with Star Trek. Probably how they both got popular in the 60s, have constant fan debates over who the best lead was/is, they're both what I call "dad franchises", and how despite their long-running success they still feel somewhat B-list (maybe A-minus list?) compared to the Star Warses and Batmans and Indiana Joneses of the world. This is all purely from an American perspective, though, not sure how it looks from the UK.

The best way I can describe it is if they were both people and single friends of mine I'd probably try hooking them up.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

I want to know what idiot saw Star Trek Into Darkness and thought "oh that plot twist that even people who liked the movie thought was complete horseshit? WE SHOULD SO THAT TOO!"

John Logan.

Andorra
Dec 12, 2012
If the film makers had a list of 'Things From Austin Powers That We Can Never Do', James Bond & Blofeld being brothers had to have been the top one, right?

Violator
May 15, 2003


Most of those issues in Spectre didn't actually bother me too much, but my biggest gripe was the torture scene at the end. Swann suddenly deciding she loves Bond (which actually got a laugh from the crowd I saw it with), drilling the brain worked or maybe it didn't?!, and Blofeld's "What's that James? Oh never mind..." where Blofeld ignores Bond obviously doing something is just so campy.

The campy and funny elements remind me of the latest Godzilla movie. "This silly poo poo was a huge part of the original series, we have to pay homage to it and include those bits!" No you don't. I don't need a Blofeld who's kind of an idiot if it doesn't fit the rest of the series. I don't need a car button that plays cheesy classical music in the middle of a car chase to the death. I don't need a woman seemingly randomly falling in love with Bond if she's hated or distrusted him up to that point.

Dignity Van Houten
Jul 28, 2006

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Violator posted:

Most of those issues in Spectre didn't actually bother me too much, but my biggest gripe was the torture scene at the end. Swann suddenly deciding she loves Bond (which actually got a laugh from the crowd I saw it with), drilling the brain worked or maybe it didn't?!, and Blofeld's "What's that James? Oh never mind..." where Blofeld ignores Bond obviously doing something is just so campy.

The campy and funny elements remind me of the latest Godzilla movie. "This silly poo poo was a huge part of the original series, we have to pay homage to it and include those bits!" No you don't. I don't need a Blofeld who's kind of an idiot if it doesn't fit the rest of the series. I don't need a car button that plays cheesy classical music in the middle of a car chase to the death. I don't need a woman seemingly randomly falling in love with Bond if she's hated or distrusted him up to that point.

The problem with the Craig series, the same problem with The Office, Stranger Things, Fast & Furious... you name it. Characters become cartoonish exaggerations of themselves as the series goes on. The traits that audiences associate with a character get amplified over time until the series jumps the shark and fizzles.

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Andorra
Dec 12, 2012
It's a reoccurring cycle in the franchise. The movies gradually build up in outlandishness, then is followed by something a little more grounded. You Only Live Twice -> On Her Majesty's Secret Service; Moonraker -> For Your Eyes Only; Die Another Day -> Casino Royale.

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