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Did some executive just go "gently caress it every tv show sucks haaahaha I'm having a nervous breakdown if these fuckers still have people watching them give them money okay, gently caress don't even renew it for one season renew that for 2 seasons and give them an actual budget for special effects" Not that I don't love this show but this episode was an unexpected turn of events.
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I think this was one of my favorite episodes on TV and now when I think space casinos instead of Ep VIII I can remember Simmons and Quake super high.
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May 26, 2019 12:49
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Well yeah I've always said, the choreography in this show is top notch. Comparing any of the agents fighting to Arrow slowly dance punching enemies with a bow in a shipyard warehouse is brutal.
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I don't know what to say other than this episode was amazing.
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muscles like this! posted:I think it is pretty funny how terrible Fitz and Simmons were at the beginning and now they're the best. I appreciate them finally lampshading the whole fact that fitz-simmons were effectively one bad character in season 1. I'm glad over time they were more fleshed out and I think they're my favorite characters now.
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The vampire lady is responsible for one of the single most hosed up moments in TV and we should all be scared of her because she already looks like a true blood character again. Edit: Also in any other show the fire breathing guy would have accomplished something. I loved how cocky they were about their plan just to be foiled by Quake's casual bump in the head by breaking a door. Elentor fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Jul 1, 2019 |
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Apoplexy posted:I know/remember she was Violet on True Blood in the last season and an episode, but what'd she do that was the most hosed-up moment on TV? Even typing it feels wrong so feel free to check for a plot summary or review of an episode called "almost home" keeping in mind you might see NWS scenes and depending on how deep the plot summary goes, very NMS. The TLDR is that it's a very bizarre scene where she goes on about how she's going to medievally torture two innocent kids before doing something even worse to deborah ann woll's character who's chained in silver in her creepy basement.
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We're gonna get a black mirror episode of Fitz and Simmons aren't we
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Jul 7, 2019 00:39
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I hope that the plot twist is that Snowbunny in this specific case is being metaphorical because Deke and her are hilarious together and they pretty much deserve each other.
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Jul 7, 2019 23:56
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Quake saying "snowbunny!?" both sarcastically and in disbelief is amazing.
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Jul 7, 2019 23:59
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twistedmentat posted:I think May just straight up killed Sarge on her own. It's not like he didn't give them good reason many, many times over. Yeah, they might do a switcheroo where May is possessed and the pilot is fine but I'm betting more money in that she just killed Sarge on her own volition.
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I know the season/s isn't over but with that announcement, I've been reflecting upon what makes me like AoS so much and I got a few things in mind about how the characters are used in relation to the world they're in. Sorry for the wall of text/effortpost, just things that crossed my mind. A - I like how the villains have their things going behind the scenes instead of acting reactively to the A plot of the characters we see on-screen. In fact, this has I believe been something that keeps me hooked up a lot. There's a constant sense of mystery in the air about what is happening that we're not seeing, kinda like a thriller. And instead of major mysteries piling up and creating a Lost effect, these plots are usually resolved in a timely manner that doesn't waste my time. I like that. B - I like that the supers are actually, well, supers. And I like how their powers is usually used in a way that is not stalled by plot armor. A quick comparison actually has to do with A - The villains had a plan to escape, and it involved their own fire-breathing giant. I like how quickly that was dealt with and all the consequences. It makes sense that they'd have a plan, and it made even more sense that the plan would go south because Quake is there. The same applies to Yo-Yo. Her power has some pretty obvious limitations that prevent her super speed from being a get-out-of-jail-free, but it should be impossible for anyone to deal with her. And that's pretty much what happens, it makes sense that she can solo neutralize Sarge's crew, and she does that. No bullshit. Compare this with Arrow winning a duel against Flash (????). C - I like how the character drama is done. Again, since I might as well compare it with Arrow, in AoS the unresolved drama between Fitz and Simmons is done in one episode, through a very creative way, and it ends up with a trippy scene of their evil selves making out for comic effect. We see drama, we see sci-fi, we see comedy, we see action, we see some of their past. It's loving great. If this was Arrow it would be like this: quote:Fitz, crying: I'm sorry Jemma, I cannot date you anymore. You betrayed my trust. Now there's been plenty of drama like this in AoS but not to the same extent as these other shows and I feel that it has been getting subdued over time or better written. Even stuff like Yo-Yo and Mack drama is watchable because the episodes don't dwell on it. It's not an episode point for 20 minutes of 3 episodes in a row. They're split, people point it out, there's conflict, but there's bigger loving poo poo going on so let's not dwell on it for half an episode. "Eventually you'll have to deal with that", "Yeah sure let's deal with it after all this life-ending poo poo is over". D - Speaking of Yo-Yo, I'm really glad she didn't die. Going from past experiences with latins introduced halfway in TV Shows the moment she was introduced I was 99% sure she would die. Even now I still have this uncanny feeling that her character will not make until the end and I'm hoping it does. Latin characters introduced from the start, if they're a main part of the cast I fully expect them to have a backstory with a drug cartel. Or they're introduced halfway in the series and then they die. Or they're only extras attacked by villains so they start religiously praying in Spanish mi madre de Dios protégeme de los demonios. I think The Gifted show nails the bingo down. I'm really hoping that Yo-Yo survives until the end. Most of all, compared to comic book shows, I like how this is a relatively straight show (It's still schlock, but compared to Legends of Tomorrow which is a comedy nowadays this show is consistently more serious) that liberally utilizes sci-fi elements as plot points instead of being character drama driven or having a faux limited scope (the show is mostly in a district but oh look there's actually a worldwide organization of villains going on!), and I guess this makes AoS my favorite "serious" superhero show, which is pretty crazy because I hated it from the way it started but it seemed to have potential and it's very rare that that potential is realized. This element in AoS has been amplified over time, and I assume it's the writers and directors figuring out what works and what doesn't, but it's great. I think Legion S1 was great and it made sense because the main character is unstable, but I can't endure that same model for, say, 5 seasons. A similar thing happens in shows like Daredevil. They're very small scale but then they're not. Suddenly there's this worldwide cartel controlled by magic old woman with extreme super powers, but the show is strongly about style and the characters, so while watching the season I feel entranced by the drama and the thrill and the spectacle, it seems too self-contained to become something considerably bigger. At some point watching the characters worrying about their day job while crazy supernatural worldwide events are happening is distracting, Having the same, same Batmanesque talk about not killing people while the villains are supernatural entities is distracting. This is also something that, again, made Arrow so irritating - There was a whole episode where they pretty much beat the crap out of an entire gang in a rooftop, but will not kill the gang leader because that's not kosher. And that would be fine, if they hadn't just blown up a helicopter in that same scene which I'm pretty sure would have killed whoever is on the helicopter plus who knows how many civilizan casualties. When AoS agents shoot people with tranquilizers, it makes sense. When Quake who could level a building enters as a field agent and neutralizes the enemies without killing them to retrieve something, it makes sense. When the crux of a show is people debating about whether or not they should kill villains while mass-murdering them every season, it feels like a hypocritical agonizing rehash of modern batman. And that ends up being the ultimate irony, that watching the tranquilizing guns in AoS used consistently ends up more honest than watching these other shows. Every boring dialogue in AoS is replaced with something actually going on. And nothing feels too illogical like Arrow beating the Flash. When something is overwhelming it's because it's aliens, and there's a vast universe of things that are not understood by the humans from Earth. And if it's aliens then it can't necessarily be solved from the same set of warehouses/district/city they're in. If they have to take a spaceship, they will; If they have to navigate a space station, they will; if they have to go to a different planet they will spend time trying to open a portal to it. I guess, back to the point of the sci-fi elements being used liberally, the thing that makes me favor AoS over the other superhero shows like Heroes, The Gifted, the entire Arrowverse (minus LoT which is awesome because they embraced the stupidity and I love camp) is that nothing in AoS seems illogical or a plot element purely because the characters are unbelievably dumb. Thinking of a show like The Gifted which is very recent, nothing in that show made sense. Character drama involves a refugee scolding a leader of hunted people who live in the sewers for gently caress's sake for stealing grains from a supermarket to feed the refugees which she just dumped on him. Every character acts in the dumbest way possible, consistently, because that's the only way the plot can move forward. At some point the super advanced tech the humans have is downplayed/retconned because the mutants are so dumb and so useless at using their ridiculous array of powers that the only way to create tension is by removing all the high-tech robot murder spider armies from the government and replacing it by a few activists with guns. It's like an arms race of stupidity, where the plot has to become stupider to accommodate the fact the characters are getting dumber. The only show I have trouble comparing to is Gotham because Gotham is its own crazy bizarre thing. I could write more since I have a lot in mind but this feels like a good place to stop. 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Rocksicles posted:gonna need a TL:DR on that I like how the show is written, how the characters are written, how the show spends very little time doing formulaic soap opera drama compared to similar shows and instead chooses to use its time to do either experimental stuff in just the right pace or move the plot along. Argue posted:I agree with all of that and I can't get enough of "what would AoS be like if it was on the CW" takes Thanks! And yes I'm not gonna lie I love immitating CW characters.
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Argue posted:If the AoS writers were just a teeny bit more creative they'd realize that Yo-yo could have beaten Hive, Aida, Kasius, Graviton, and Izel by just running faster. That's true. There are plenty of dumb moments and AoS is not immune to them, but at least I never feel like constantly shouting at the screen "JUST USE YOUR POWERS!!!" as much as other shows or movies. Like even something that would be in other shows a plot device to prevent superman from using his powers to save budget on effects or to increase drama (or both), is like: "Uh-oh! If quake uses her powers, this bomb will detonate! Sure her powers have been countered, what a surprising plot device!" In any other show that would be essentially a plot device with one of those two purposes. In this show the scene is resolved with: "Okay, then since I can't use my powers or it will detonate the bomb I will just use my powers to overpower the bomb. Camera, come here. Come watch this poo poo. I'm gonna hard-counter a nuclear bomb. See this poo poo? No no don't say it happened offscreen. See this poo poo? PROBLEM SOLVED. Plot, move along." Oh no a swarm of evil monsters is coming! Whatever will we do now? "We will move the plot along by virtue of me obliterating all of them like I'm jean grey." "There, problem solved. Plot, move along."
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I mean, that truck alone holds so many memorable moments. There are more interesting scenes inside that truck than in entire seasons of certain superhero shows. All the portal shenanigans. Deke and Snowbunny disgusting everyone. May's face of disgust followed by exasperation and Quake's "I need bleach for my eyes" is great. May finding out where the truck is. May fighting (always good). This is a short line so I'm editing to emphasize how much I like the fighting scenes in this show. Everyone finding out about the bomb. Snow's anger at Sarge as she finds out she is left to die. Snow slowly panicking and realizing her stupid bullcrap that she's okay doesn't actually work when it's her own life on the line. Quake lampshading that "she's a hacker". Quake containing the bomb through the power of using your actual powers in a tv show when you have them. Quake resolving the other problem caused by not letting the bomb explode by using all those powers in the same episode. Elentor fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Jul 19, 2019 |
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Darth Brooks posted:I just want Deke and Snowbunny in increasingly stupid situations. Honestly, same. They're perfect for each other. Deke is creepy as gently caress as we've seen from the things he does in his company. Snowbunny is completely bananas. The two are hilarious together and have perfect chemistry for a comedic duo, they're a match made in heaven (or hell).
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I see what you did there
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Deke must be like super happy that this Fitz is also more open to him and doesn't openly hate him furiously.
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Jul 27, 2019 14:43
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Yeah. I get this genuine feel that his character is like "I just got out of a lovely horrific space mad max dystopia as a bum and now I'm using my crazy futuristic knowledge to make money in the time period I fantasized about while doing crazy science with my family". He's just so happy.
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Imagine starting this series with that bizarre grim first episode and season where everyone is making fun of fitzsimmons for being NERRRDS and it ends up with them having adventures with mad max starlord from the future and their big family becomes fitz, simmons, deke and snowbunny.
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Elentor posted:D - Speaking of Yo-Yo, I'm really glad she didn't die. Going from past experiences with latins introduced halfway in TV Shows the moment she was introduced I was 99% sure she would die. Even now I still have this uncanny feeling that her character will not make until the end and I'm hoping it does. Latin characters introduced from the start, if they're a main part of the cast I fully expect them to have a backstory with a drug cartel. Or they're introduced halfway in the series and then they die. Or they're only extras attacked by villains so they start religiously praying in Spanish mi madre de Dios protégeme de los demonios. I think The Gifted show nails the bingo down. I'm really hoping that Yo-Yo survives until the end. So far so good, the finale gave me a scare but I'm more than fine with the all-robots-die-when-the-mothership-blows-up in this case.
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twistedmentat posted:She is my dream casting for adult Sabine Wren. That would be dope.
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Rhyno posted:Daisy and Jenma getting high was the best. That was one of my favorite TV episodes in general, it was so gloriously campy.
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GigaPeon posted:Runaways the show is so different than the comic Pretty much. Runaways should have stuck to the comics. There are certainly things I'd change in the comics but the show started going downhill before we got to them.
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