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Darko posted:That wasnt even in the movie. I can't remember who said it here, but it was in the lead up to Genysis coming out, that one of Cameron's abilities as a director is knowing exactly when to throttle off on a joke. There's some good gags in T2, but he always stops just short of goofiness, and tends to tie the joke to the scene and character. It's a very fine distinction, but Cameron has a nose for it that Mostow didn't.
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Narzack posted:I hated this joke so much. Ironically, I think it doesn't work because it doesn't go far enough. There's no reason for the Terminator to take them, and, in turn, there's no reason for him to switch them. Give him a reason to take them, and have him wear them without comment or focus right up until they get broken or something. Essentially, play the goofy joke straight, and I think it works.
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SUNKOS posted:Yeah, I liked when John was trying to get it to smile and it looked really creepy, and the way it picked up the baby and stared at it like it was an alien. It was funny but also wasn't out of place and just fit well with the narrative overall and somehow perfectly balanced between being creepy and amusing. That's exactly what I mean. Both scenes are good and funny, but both flow out of the scene and the characters as we already understand them.
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Jun 5, 2019 05:47
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From what I've gathered over the years, Terminator Salvation was almost at Alien 3 levels of whole sections being scrapped. Apparently there was a plot about the rich of the old world still being around post apocalypse, and you can get a glance of their silhouettes in one of the wide shots in the finished film.
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Jun 14, 2019 15:02
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Justin Godscock posted:Well, even Disney is starting to find out you can only follow the OT of Star Wars for so long until fans kinda get tired. Hopefully they learn like Disney had to after Solo bombed. What suggests that Disney has learned anything?
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Jun 25, 2019 00:38
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Wild T posted:In fairness, the police station shootout was tactically a good move. It's got her location pinned to a building that's designed to prevent escape and the only resistance between her and it are a bunch of cops who have no weapons heavy enough to inflict any real damage to it. Just like every other time it attacks, she'd have been toast if Reese hadn't intervened and followed his primary mantra of "don't stand up to this thing, just get away and keep running". And most of the people he shoots in the sequence are trying to shoot him. They present threats, albeit negligible ones.
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Tenzarin posted:Couldn't Skynet also just fight the future war and send intel back to itself how it lost and not bother with time travel assassins? They always send out the terminator, the resistance never stops them from doing it. This was the plot of the villains in noted good movie and goon favourite 'Edge of Tomorrow'
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Jun 27, 2019 07:46
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John has a full arc and growth through the course of the movie, too, and it dovetails with the film's overall journey and message. Furlong does a really good job of communicating all that. I just wish the film hadn't completely ruined his life. Interestingly, if you listen to the Aliens commentary track, with Gale Anne Hurd, who did the casting for both movies, she remarks that Newt's actress got out of the film industry very early (in fact, Aliens is her only credited role) with something approaching relief. Wonder if that might be due to Furlong, who i think she discovered.
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Aug 7, 2020 01:41
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Shrimp or Shrimps posted:What are some of the worst things about Hollywood for child actors (genuinely asking). Mara Wilson, who was a pretty successful child actor in the 90s, wrote an article about it for cracked a while back. The story that i remember is the one about one of her co-stars essentially being the only breadwinner in the household.
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Sir Kodiak posted:
You've just reminded me of another brilliant aspect of Robert Patrick's impressively subdued performance. That arrogance does come through. The complete confidence with which he says 'oh, I wouldn't worry about him' or the contempt he looks at the silver mannequin with, or the way he just disregards Arnie once he's got his arm trapped. I also agree with your issue with it. I think there's a better version where the terminator is just her boss at the factory and crushes her spirit rather than try to kill her. Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Well I finally got around to watching Terminator: Dark Fate and it did a lot right but goddamn if blowing away a little kid in the first 5 minutes left a bad taste in my mouth and put a nasty oily film on everything that came after it. That's an Alien 3 level of making GBS threads on your own prior film and I'm amazed Cameron went for it - but famously the Terminator ends with "but we're still all dead in a nuke war, yeah?" so he's certainly capable of narrative downers. Killing a nice little boy who went through it to save the world is a big one though. I like that they opened with trying to get away from what came before. It's something you need to do in a series that's been going on as long as the Terminator, but they immediately just did a riff on the usual formula. Dark Fate was basically very competent, but the formula has been run into the ground to such an extent it's hard to really give a poo poo about it.
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Alchenar posted:Yeah but they made that film it's called The Matrix. I rewatched the Matrix the other night and never noticed how much his software company boss reads as a program. I don't think he's supposed to be an agent, but he definitely mirrors a lot of Smith's mannerisms from later in the film. Either a human indistinguishable from a program, or a program itself. Works well as a critique of upward mobility either way. Neo Rasa posted:Wasn't Piranha 3D supposed to be pretty good? fun fact: it has a cameo from Gianna Michaels, the porn star, that was supposed to go to Natasha Nice, another porn star. However, Nice had been arrested while doing a gonzo outdoor shoot and so couldn't make it.
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Sep 13, 2021 03:06
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Alchenar posted:The whole point is that people who 'choose' to be part of the Matrix aren't just passive victims, they actively uphold the system (same as the police). I remember the various readings getting mad at the rebels for killing people just doing their jobs or whatever. There were a lot of them around 2007 or so. Those seem loving hilarious now, like a wilful misreading of the text (of which there have been a fair few) I think that's part of the reason I'm actually curious about a sequel. It's something that is simultaneously about a world that doesn't exist anymore but is also more relevant than ever.
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Sep 15, 2021 02:06
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Neo Rasa posted:Speaking of this I did really like the volunteer hybrid cyborg thing of MacKenzie Davis' character in Dark Fate. Dark Fate would have been very well received if three bad/bland movies hadn't determinedly burned through all the good will people had towards the series. As it is, it's a competent retread of T2 with a few new additions, and there's already two bad examples of that. Violator posted:Yeah, for some reason I seem to remember everyone including him concluding that what he did in that movie was the extent that he could reasonably contribute based on his capabilities and life situation. I like this idea. Stories that are in the same universe but are doing their own thing.
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Salvation is, on balance, one of the most frustratingly bad films ever made. On paper, it's a loving dream. Christian Bale, Terry Crews, Common, Helena Bonham Carter, Anton Yelchin, Michael Ironside, Moon Bloodgood and a massive budget. A Terminator that doesn't know it's a terminator is a fantastic idea and something that should have been front and centre. It's a perfect evolution from a bad terminator to a good terminator to a terminator that thinks its good. The first trailer, which showed almost nothing absolutely nailed the atmosphere. The second trailer was also promising. Hey, maybe McG won't gently caress this up. But he did. It's exactly the film the guy who did Charlie's Angels would make if he was trying to be serious. gently caress that movie. On every loving level: pacing, structure, script, character, performances...There isn't even any good action, which is unforgiveable. Even Terminator 3 had the Crane chase.
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Sep 7, 2022 02:19
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Salvation is a great-looking movie that does the most new and interesting stuff with the "Terminator" concepts, and all the performances are obviously quite good. Nobody's ever really put forward an argument for why it's bad. It has plenty of new and interesting stuff. It doesn't do interesting things with them.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:What would 'doing interesting things with the interesting stuff' look like? I'll give you that one. That is a cool idea that is executed well. That it's a blink and you'll miss it shot left over from an earlier version of the script and is the best moment in the movie is probably as damning an indictment of Salvation as I can manage. Seemlar posted:The rewrites mean the title doesn't actually mean anything when it comes to the end product they made, and why there's plot points and little bits of imagery that aren't explained. Like Skynet knowing it has Kyle Reese captured but not executing him on the spot for convoluted reasons is because originally it had no idea who he was and the sequence would have been "Marcus has to save Kyle before he gets put through the conversion surgery" It also means that the whole opening doesn't add anything anymore aside from being a misdirect. That being a test run for the process would work as a set up in the version you're describing.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:That’s not the best part in the movie, but a simple example of one of its effectively creepy images. Once again, man, I fuckin' love the version of the movie that exists in your head and wish I'd seen it. Unfortunately I saw the one where Marcus sucks as an assassin and successfully helps John, whose undermined gift of prophecy doesn't stop him being constantly right about everything. Like I said, Salvation is amazing on paper and is full of great ideas and concepts that all deserve to be in a better movie. I wouldn't argue that it's not the best post apocalyptic robot war movie because that is a narrow genre and Salvation is the only one with a larger budget than whatever change was under the writer/director's couch and a cast of actual actors instead whoever was desperate enough to appear in a movie called 'Future War' RBA Starblade posted:Moviefight: Terminator Salvation vs Matrix Revolutions That's barely a fight. Revolutions by a staggering margin.
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