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SuperMechagodzilla posted:

But that means that the films have gotten too smart; after T2, you have this point that the drones are people too - not human people, of course, but these angelic/demonic figures.

So you must shift into how to liberate the drones from Skynet. The alternative is a dumb reactionary fantasy. You can’t go back and make yourself ignorant of how Arnold sacrificed himself.

Moreover, you can’t kill Skynet; Skynet is the inevitable product of the capitalist system. At the end of T2, Robert Patrick must still inevitably be created in “the unknown future”.

So, given that you can’t kill it, how can you change Skynet? Terminator 5, you ultimately have Arnold working to bring about an anticapitalist Skynet.
There's only one way to go from here. The Matrix route.


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BiggerBoat posted:

god this gonna suck

Only way I can think of to make a Terminator movie interesting is to have it just go back further in time and make it a period piece of sorts. Civil War, WW2, the 70's...the great depression, prohibition gangster era. This looks loving horrible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFxMgJw6KRk



Stairmaster posted:

i hope james cameron still has the balls to show a bunch of police officers getting loving killed en masse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxVVaTXr4FM&t=130s

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Cythereal posted:

According to the leak, Legion is also a much more topical take on an evil AI than Skynet. Rather than a supercomputer in control of nukes for fear of the Soviets, Legion was born from an anti-terrorist surveillance state and drone network that got sentient and deemed all humans and human civilizations likely terrorists to eliminate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t58sK2GRwXA

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grate deceiver posted:

I think that's just called waiting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFxMgJw6KRk&t=222s

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SuperMechagodzilla posted:

The TV show existed, and it was mediocre “Agents of Shield” stuff. These things all have been met with widespread indifference. (This post is probably the most anyone has bothered to read T23D.) But the show had likeable characters? GI JOE had likeable chatscters. That’s not what makes a good narrative. People will post examples of the TV show’s greatest moments, and they’re invariably crap because fans are like “I love when that T-1000 character turns into a urinal and kills everyone!” and ignore that that story is told very badly.
Counterpoint:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPzzYhuhOxo

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I think humanity is ready for a terminator movie where skynet is right

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUiYe_NwOkU

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Owlofcreamcheese posted:

A good current terminator movie is robots that carelessly destroy everything around us like not even robots gone mad. Just robots grinding us to dust without even noticing we are there for some distant goal we don't even understand or care about. Like not even a machine that kills your kid because it hates you, or even for some obvious benefit, just a robot that kills your kid one day and you are powerless to even know why it did that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RGQGI7V8o8&t=60s

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"Some of us don't want that"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpqSC0f17M0

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Season 2 has a long dry stretch of mediocre to terrible episodes but holy poo poo does it get back on track at the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj7EiMjTt4k
(spoilers)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFxMgJw6KRk

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBlGup9uCwU

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“There was talk on the Internet about an alternate ending where

Connor dies and they take Connor’s likeness and put it on top of Marcus

Wright’s machine body. So that it’s actually a machine that’s leading

the resistance! And the Internet caught wind of that and people went,

‘That’s bulls—! We don’t want that!'”

McG grins. “Well, that’s not really what the ending was.”

Actually, the bloggers were on the right track. Except, McG adds, the original ending actually went even further.

“Connor dies, okay? He’s dead,” McG continues. “And Marcus offers his

physical body, so Connor’s exterior is put on top of his machine body.

It looks like Connor, but it’s really Marcus underneath. And all of the

characters we care about (Kyle Reese, Connor’s wife Kate, etc.) are

brought into the room to see him and they think it’s Connor. And Connor

gets up and then there’s a small flicker of red in his eyes and he

shoots Kate, he shoots Kyle, he shoots everybody in the room. Fade to

black. End of movie. Skynet wins. F— you!”

F— you, indeed.

We tell the director that this would be the darkest, bleakest summer blockbuster ending of all time. He agrees.

“It’s the most nihilistic thing of all time. And Christian went

f—ing crazy, of course. He was insistent that it be done that way! He

wanted the bad guys to win! Can you imagine the oxygen going out of the

theater?! What just happened! It would piss you off! But maybe two

years from now, you’d think it was ballsy. But in the end, it just felt

like too much of a bummer.”

He pauses, thinking about the alternate ending that wasn’t. “Maybe we blew it.”


https://ew.com/article/2009/05/26/the-terminator/

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SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Like, what’s better? Fuckin’ Screamers? No thank you!
Screamers is actually good.

Impostor is merely okay.

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