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Centrists are the least crazy and extremist faction in American politics. They're not always right but they're certainly not the kind of people prone to insane conspiracy theories and eschewing all factual information in favor of unhinged all-caps internet ranting.
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when people were wrong i felt a small moral obligation to teach them
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Jon Joe posted:im gonna be honest, im a freaking dumbass
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World War Mammories posted:incrementalism is a practically and morally sound strategy and the best way to bring about leftist policy
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May 31, 2019 12:37
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Harry Potter is a fun but silly children's series that is serving as a gateway to reading real literature
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May 31, 2019 13:24
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TrilliontonNixon posted:That the Obama presidency would actually leave a lasting mark on American politics. Technically he left a lasting mark. His election is a clear marker for when "seething white racial grievance" started transitioning into "open white nationalism" on the right. He was the straw that broke the camels back, thats an accomplishment, right?
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steve bannon will be the chief architect of white house policy for the entirety of trump's presidencyTrilliontonNixon posted:That the Obama presidency would actually leave a lasting mark on American politics.
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Internet nazis are a small niche group that will never have any real influence in politics and most of them are doing fyad style irony anyway. Even if Trump wins the democrats will fight him tooth and nail and make his one term a miserable failure. Climate change is going to become such an obvious problem that ignoring it will be political suicide. Things will get better.
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TrilliontonNixon posted:That the Obama presidency would actually leave a lasting mark on American politics. What legacy? Aside from Trump, of course.
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Obama's legacy will forever be that he twice stopped Hillary from being President, first by out campaigning her and then by salting the earth with terrible neoliberal governance.
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Helsing posted:Obama's legacy will forever be that he twice stopped Hillary from being President, first by out campaigning her and then by salting the earth with terrible neoliberal governance. Hey! Thats unfair! Actively stopping someone from doing something would require some kind of action, which would use up that sweet political capital that Obama had to hoard for his entire presidency. Since he kept it all, he can go on an infinite vacation at Billionaire Whore Island. Give Hillary credit, she failed all on her own. In '08, by hiring people that didn't know how the primary system actually worked, and in '16, by hiring people who didn't know how the electoral college worked. Many of these people were the same people!
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People will have to notice the ever increasing extremes that are happening with the weather and realize climate change is the most important issue facing every person on earth. We'll come together and try to mitigate the damage.
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:Calling for an end to abortion is just red meat that conservative politicians toss the base; they know it’d be societal chaos if they ever actually banned it poo poo. got me with this one
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In May of 2019 we will not still be talking about the 2016 election.
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Jon Joe posted:im gonna be honest, im a freaking dumbass uh it's not "itt post things you unironically believe after 2016" tia
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Everything matt-Chokes McGee posted:uh it's not "itt post things you unironically believe after 2016" tia Never mind.
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One More Fat Nerd posted:Hey! Thats unfair! Actively stopping someone from doing something would require some kind of action, which would use up that sweet political capital that Obama had to hoard for his entire presidency. Since he kept it all, he can go on an infinite vacation at Billionaire Whore Island. Obama could at least partially redeem his "legacy" by humbly endorsing Bernie Sanders' progressive platform in retrospect, and then vigorously campaign for each issue in that platform. The survival of the country literally depends on this platform getting implemented. But then the billionaire class would pull his historically high, multimillion dollar book deal so of course he won't.
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This isn't quite on topic but immediately after 2016 I remember being so happy because I thought all the millionaire liberals would finally pull their heads out of their asses and we'd see some traction on scaling back the limitless power of the executive branch. fuckin lol look how loving stupid I was
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making extremely hamfisted justifications for why a movie, tv show, comic book, etc. is good politics with no basis in reality only appeal to Something Awful and other websites and internet forums catering to stunted manchildren
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Big Mad Drongo posted:Harry Potter is a fun but silly children's series that is serving as a gateway to reading real literature oh poo poo, this is the truest thing in the thread
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Over Easy posted:oh poo poo, this is the truest thing in the thread
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One More Fat Nerd posted:Technically he left a lasting mark. His election is a clear marker for when "seething white racial grievance" started transitioning into "open white nationalism" on the right. He was the straw that broke the camels back, thats an accomplishment, right? its more than that - his presidency completely exploded the prevailing approach to race in public discourse, which was to pretend things were on a continuous path of improvement (just look at all that representation!) and we were moving towards some sort of post-racial society that has entirely changed since his presidency began, which is not all a bad thing despite the rise in overt white nationalism, not least because it often served as cover for heinous abuse and neglect to me the overt white nationalism seems to be partially the revelation of something always very present, and partially growth as it is a comprehensive worldview/narrative that is offered/heavily promoted in an environment where much of the political leadership cleaves strongly to thoroughly discredited alternatives (neoliberalism and movement conservatism) this is ultimately a pretty easy transition for a lot of the political leadership (and their owners) on the right, because the white nationalist worldview doesn't contradict their desired ends, while Democrats/liberal political leadership (and their owners) face a real problem because they don't have a similarly undemanding worldview/narrative to point to (and they're so corrupt and out of practice doing actual politics that they're unable to make the necessary compromises or even maintain kayfabe) LGD has issued a correction as of 19:35 on May 31, 2019 |
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Pryor on Fire posted:This isn't quite on topic but immediately after 2016 I remember being so happy because I thought all the millionaire liberals would finally pull their heads out of their asses and we'd see some traction on scaling back the limitless power of the executive branch. To be unnecessarily fair to the millionaire libs, making any actual movement on this would require getting Cocaine Mitch to sign off, which, lol. They probably wouldn't do anything anyway.
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That conservatives are human beings
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Evilweasel is a good poster.
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Who What Now posted:That conservatives are human beings you actually believed this? Giggy posted:Evilweasel is a good poster. you actually believed this?!
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Chokes McGee posted:you actually believed this? I used to think that many of them were just too stupid to hear the dog whistles and were being duped. But now that they're all saying the quiet parts loud I've realized that they're all irredeemable scum.
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The revelation that NRO conservatives statistically don't exist came as a surprise to me as well, as their publications go out of business and nobody ever seems to engage with Jennifer Rubin or Bret Stephens or Bill Kristol except to poo poo all over them. By 2016 it was obvious that Sarah Palin and Cliven Bundy were the true face of the party, but I still assumed there were few hundred thousand Onion Kelly granddads sitting in leather chairs with a tobacco pipe, their eyes moving emptily over the American Spectator and going "Heh, indeed!" without comprehending any of the words. But no, that whole medium was a pure Potemkin Village, 100% astroturf, kept afloat by dark money and absolutely nothing else.
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I remember wondering what would happen to the Trump wing of the party after the election, because clearly the republicans would understand that they couldn't go on like this and would have to change gears.
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A whole lot of people are fiscally conservative but socially liberal. Those terms make sense and are useful.
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At the start of 2016 I wanted to be a Renaissance man. (now I think the renaissance was a mistake)
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Koishi Komeiji posted:Things will get better.
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Grondoth posted:A whole lot of people are fiscally conservative but socially liberal. "The problems are bad. But their causes... *clenches fist* their causes are very good."
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1982 Subaru Brat posted:Centrists are the least crazy and extremist faction in American politics. They're not always right but they're certainly not the kind of people prone to insane conspiracy theories and eschewing all factual information in favor of unhinged all-caps internet ranting.
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