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It's said that the Horror stories of a culture reflect its deepest anxieties. Zombies as mindless consumers, you've heard it before. SomethingAwful even tried to get in on that action with Slenderman, combining Lovecraftian imagery with a Pied Piper gimmick that ended up with a little girl getting stabbed and a truly terrible movie. Good work all-around A+. In the last few years, there's been a rise in new horror-- the "game"-based killer. I don't mean like Jigsaw, although he's definitely a forerunner. I mean poo poo like Bird Box  or A Quiet Place  or It Follows  or those Weeping Angels/SCP-173   or The Pale Man from Pan's Labyrinth  Monsters where you have to follow 1-2 rules and you'll be left alone, but violate them, even a tiny little bit, and you're dead. This isn't entirely new, Freddy Kruger's whole thing was "he can only kill you in your dreams." Gremlins had their whole "don't get wet/don't feed after midnight" thing. Scream was the mainstream codification of "there are certain rules you must follow in order to survive a horror movie." Dracula can't cross running water and must count everything. Hellraiser's Cenobites could be put away by the puzzle box. Bodysnatcher movies usually feature at least one scene of a character trying to fool the snatched. The idea of monsters being bound by rules which make them fallible, even exploitable, isn't new. But this is different. These movies are a different breed from late 90s/early 00s Funny Games/Saw/Human Centipede/Hostel fear that somewhere out there someone is watching and will torture you for fun. It's different from 80s and 90s slashers which would kill you for spectacle. It's different from earlier more folkloric monsters like Vampires, Werewolves, Wendigo, and Ghouls where the creature's ultimate goal is animal sustenance, however complicated. This new variant, this new subspecies... *pauses to take off trendy "nerd" glasses* is about invisible authority. I actually don't like this new type of monster to be honest. They seem even more formulaic than slashers or torture porn. But what they say about what we as a society are afraid of is interesting. They're the anxieties of people who feel as though they're stepping on eggshells wherever they go, where even minor transgression is punished with maximum hostility. They can continue to live their lives, often even approaching normalcy, but with an inexorable dread that if they violate "the rules" they're going to die painfully and doom their loved ones. The very idea of containing, stopping, or fighting back against these monsters is usually not even up for consideration, as they are too powerful and too fast to do anything more than survive against. That says something about where we are as a society. Gamers rise up.
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mind the walrus posted:It's said that the Horror stories of a culture reflect its deepest anxieties. Zombies as mindless consumers, you've heard it before. SomethingAwful even tried to get in on that action with Slenderman, combining Lovecraftian imagery with a Pied Piper gimmick that ended up with a little girl getting stabbed and a truly terrible movie. Good work all-around A+. good point op
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Jun 19, 2019 00:05
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Are these horror movies reflecting people's current anxieties or are horror writers just getting lazy It's easier to write monsters this way than to actually provoke people
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Jun 19, 2019 00:07
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A horror movie where businesses conspire to refuse the main character a job and they die homeless in an alley somewhere. A horror movie where the main character's identity gets stolen and their life is ruined.
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Jun 19, 2019 00:09
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Hemingway To Go! posted:Are these horror movies reflecting people's current anxieties or are horror writers just getting lazy Writers are always lazy but this has actually caught on with audiences, meaning they that it speaks to them.
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Jun 19, 2019 00:09
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super sweet best pal posted:A horror movie where businesses conspire to refuse the main character a job and they die homeless in an alley somewhere. I haven't seen it but isn't this like 75% of "The Game" before it pulls back to reveal it was all a rich people prank?
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Jun 19, 2019 00:10
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mind the walrus posted:It's said that the Horror stories of a culture reflect its deepest anxieties. Zombies as mindless consumers, you've heard it before. SomethingAwful even tried to get in on that action with Slenderman, combining Lovecraftian imagery with a Pied Piper gimmick that ended up with a little girl getting stabbed and a truly terrible movie. Good work all-around A+. i think people are very anxious about all the rules they have to follow and can relate to a story in which they will die if they break the rules op
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Jun 19, 2019 00:12
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I liked a quiet place but I wish I could find one haha these kids are killing me!
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Jun 19, 2019 00:12
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Sid Vicious posted:I liked a quiet place but I wish I could find one haha these kids are killing me! good!
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Jun 19, 2019 00:14
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Sid Vicious posted:I liked a quiet place but I wish I could find one haha these kids are killing me! lol
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Jun 19, 2019 00:16
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On the other hand Dracula doesn't have to count anything at all, so I feel like maybe you've got some real thinking to do about this whole thing, OP
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Jun 19, 2019 00:28
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mind the walrus posted:
I would possibly argue that Candyman started this.
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Jun 19, 2019 00:31
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Candyman loving owns
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Jun 19, 2019 00:31
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Candyman is loving  but his rules are just a variant on Bloody Mary.
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Jun 19, 2019 00:35
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You are forgetting the most popular horror anxiety, spooky ghosts that show up on camera at night. What say you about that?!?
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Jun 19, 2019 00:37
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Colonel Cancer posted:You are forgetting the most popular horror anxiety, spooky ghosts that show up on camera at night. What say you about that?!? we don't like them
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Jun 19, 2019 00:38
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big leprechaun fan over here
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Jun 19, 2019 00:43
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It Follows was a loving dumb and boring bullshit movie that wasn't scary at all
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Jun 19, 2019 00:44
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Junk posted:It Follows was a loving dumb and boring bullshit movie that wasn't scary at all Look at this virgin lol
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Jun 19, 2019 00:45
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Junk posted:It Follows was a loving dumb and boring bullshit movie that wasn't scary at all Naturally after this post it follows that you suck freaking eggs lmao
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Jun 19, 2019 00:45
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Pretty sure this story archetype is a lot older than you think, OP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passover
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Jun 19, 2019 00:47
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the near omniscient nature of older horror villains was usually delivered as sort of dream-like, whereas today's just /are/ omniscient (in both cases though its just script-writing convenience)
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Jun 19, 2019 00:51
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A Quiet Place somehow manged to be even worse than Bird Box. I can't wait for the next movie where the monsters get you through smell.
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Jun 19, 2019 00:52
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Pawn 17 posted:A Quiet Place somehow manged to be even worse than Bird Box. I can't wait for the next movie where the monsters get you through smell. That's called my room when I eat beans and weenies
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Jun 19, 2019 00:52
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Sid Vicious posted:Look at this virgin lol lol now let's discuss the new movie staring Chucky
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Jun 19, 2019 00:54
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Sid Vicious posted:Look at this virgin lol Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:Naturally after this post it follows that you suck freaking eggs lmao lol i want to actually hear you defend that garbage movie
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Jun 19, 2019 00:55
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Sid Vicious posted:That's called my room when I eat beans and weenies lol
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Jun 19, 2019 00:55
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Mumpy Puffinz posted:lol It has Mark Hamill voicing him which is cool but like really can Chucky not be Brad Dourif and still be Chucky?
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Jun 19, 2019 00:55
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bird box was so poo poo. john malkovich comes into the movie and starts absolutely kicking rear end and then they are like, no, we need to lock this guy in a box so the rest of the movie sucks.
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Jun 19, 2019 00:57
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Sid Vicious posted:It has Mark Hamill voicing him which is cool but like really can Chucky not be Brad Dourif and still be Chucky? No he can’t, he can only be a prepubescent Joker.
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Hell Yeah posted:bird box was so poo poo. john malkovich comes into the movie and starts absolutely kicking rear end and then they are like, no, we need to lock this guy in a box so the rest of the movie sucks. In a... In a bird box? Heh.
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Jun 19, 2019 00:57
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if i was the people who made this movie i would have put john malkovich in every single scene even after he dies in the movie.
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Jun 19, 2019 00:58
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Sid Vicious posted:It has Mark Hamill voicing him which is cool but like really can Chucky not be Brad Dourif and still be Chucky? Mark Hamill is voicing Chucky?
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Jun 19, 2019 00:58
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Mumpy Puffinz posted:Mark Hamill is voicing Chucky? Yeah man
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Jun 19, 2019 01:00
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Sid Vicious posted:Yeah man that is awesome Now I might watch it
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Jun 19, 2019 01:02
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Best horror creature of the past decade was the monster from The Ritual, she owns and I love her. The Babadook was pretty rad but nothing original really. I liked how it explored themes of wanting to murder your child because he’s being a little poo poo though.
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Labes for days posted:Best horror creature of the past decade was the monster from The Ritual, she owns and I love her. The whole movie was absolutely just about post partum depression slash psychosis
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Jun 19, 2019 01:19
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Junk posted:lol i want to actually hear you defend that garbage movie The joke, in case you missed it, was that you’ve never had sex and therefore you would clearly have no reason to be afraid of a monster that “follows” the last person who had sex with a cursed line of sex-havers. Also, as someone who has had sex, I thought it was pretty scary.
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Jun 19, 2019 01:43
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It follows. So what? Follow me all it likes as long as it doesnt try any gay stuff
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Nosferatu was totally just a jew right?
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