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And More posted:Well, it seemed like a good time. Along with the constant smoking and drinking, this show really advocates a pretty unhealthy lifestyle.
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Sorry if it’s been mentioned, but did anyone else think that when Joyce was reading up on electromagnetism early on, they were doing a little homage to the ‘Winona Ryder is figuring out complex equations’ meme from the Emmys? They hold on her face while her eyes twitch confusedly back and forth - which is true to the character’s mannerisms, but it definitely reminded me.
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grobbo posted:Sorry if it’s been mentioned, but did anyone else think that when Joyce was reading up on electromagnetism early on, they were doing a little homage to the ‘Winona Ryder is figuring out complex equations’ meme from the Emmys? If they had any guts it would have been her watching Eleven float a slice of pizza around.
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Madurai posted:I meant the shoes, specifically. See, now I'm curious. So i'm gonna spend a chunk of my friday night looking at girl's feet on the internet. Which is not really the way I thought the way that was gonna go. But hey, you win some you lose some. ufarn posted:and even that was probably incidental. I dunno. They have the mayor knowingly selling out their small town to communists and then using community funds to put on a giant spectacle to distract them from the negative impacts. That seems pretty aware of itself.
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This season makes me want to rewatch Night of the Comet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9O-0B6OC0E CubanMissile fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Jul 5, 2019 |
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Jul 5, 2019 23:34
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There is no god drat way Hopper isn't in that cell in russia. Doing 24/7 pull ups so they can do the Hellboy-funded brick shithouse reveal in season 4
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I just finished. I know they kept referring to the monster as The Mind Flayer but it doesn’t really seem like a Mind Flayer right? Granted, I have little experience with D&D but to me it seemed more like Demon Lord Juiblex. He’s supposed to be lord of oozes, turns people into copies of himself, his body is just one giant ooze with a mouth and tentacles that attack people. Am I wrong here? Ultimately, it probably doesn’t matter but that’s what I kept thinking. Also Hopper isn’t dead, he’s in the Russian prison. Edit to add on to this: Hopper’s message to leave the door open 3 inches will come back in reference to the portal to the Upside Down, telling El to leave it open 3 inches so he can get out. Daric fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Jul 6, 2019 |
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But they didn't know about the blob thing until late into season 3, no? At that point, its main thing was taking over Will in season 2. I also assume Steve's The Thing references are a nod to the monster concept.
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We don't know the time jump from the ending to that Russian prison scene. Maybe the Russians are keeping him alive because he comes the Upside-Down equivalent to the Doom Slayer and is killing creatures left and right and he is their last form of defense against some Half-Like breakout scenario.
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Waffleopolis posted:We don't know the time jump from the ending to that Russian prison scene. Maybe the Russians are keeping him alive because he comes the Upside-Down equivalent to the Doom Slayer and is killing creatures left and right and he is their last form of defense against some Half-Like breakout scenario. It said "Three Months Later" on the screen in huge letters.
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Elephant Ambush posted:It said "Three Months Later" on the screen in huge letters. Well I'm just a big ol' dum-dum..........Hopper spent 2-3 months killing Upside-Down demons non stop!
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They literally showed in big fat letters "BFG Division" during the scene, please pay attention  .
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Daric posted:I just finished. I know they kept referring to the monster as The Mind Flayer but it doesn’t really seem like a Mind Flayer right? Granted, I have little experience with D&D but to me it seemed more like Demon Lord Juiblex. He’s supposed to be lord of oozes, turns people into copies of himself, his body is just one giant ooze with a mouth and tentacles that attack people. Am I wrong here? The demogorgon didn't look much like Demogorgon, either. Though the zombie horde was pretty on the nose this time, in terms of prophetic D&D games.
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Spoiler for the last episode : I'm not sure they have a door to the upside down in Russia as the creature they showed was a Demogorgon and Erica asked how big it was when looking at the cage/box in the Russian base. You know, where she got that huge cattle prod. I'm thinking they moved creatures over to the new base as what is the point of that scene with Erica and Dustin? I'm also glad Elle wasn't the deus ex machina for the conclusion. She did have her badass moments but it was refreshing that normal humans saved the day this time. Only 8 episodes is so drat short!
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Davros1 posted:Suzie was perfectly cast. We all thought she was fake, right? But yes, that scene was fantastic
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I thought the season was fantastic. 5/5.
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:We all thought she was fake, right? How would anyone think it was fake when they brought it up every five minutes?
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We all knew that kid who lied about his girlfriend's existence every 5 minutes
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Re 80s malls. I grew up with two huge malls in the 80s. They were filled with smoke and Gap stores weren’t a thing till mid 90s. (At least here) same with food courts, those didn’t show up till 1990 and beyond. Orange Julius were there (and still are). Also way too much neon, that also didn’t show up till the early 90s. (Sad but true) Once Nirvana hit it everything went dark. The pastels disappeared overnight.
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My ex girlfriend is spying on my telepathically through the radio.
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:We all thought she was fake, right? That was my gut reaction too but having all your friends lug a bunch of electronics miles into the countryside is a lot of effort to go through for a lie like that.
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MASSIVE oversight: None of the kids have horrible acne. The bad: This was characters I like, dropped into a remake of the 80's Blob. It was a another step away from the fairly grounded season 1, even from Season 2. Like we dumped the knockoff X-men, but it gets lots more cartoony in general, but the show also getsmeaner. The tone was all over the place. Like, eleven is in touch with the lifegaurd girl as she dies, dozens of people are kidnapped, violated, killed, then dissolved into a horrible monster, but LOL! Dustin sings Neverending Story with Suzie-pooh! The good: Dustin and Steve and Robin were still great. The wasted: Billy in the Upsidedown and the shadow people seemed like it might go somewhere, but I think that was just how the hive-mind appeared to him. We still know nothing new about the Upsidedown, and that wouldn't bother me if the Duffers hadn't said they had worked out it's mechanics. Failson fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Jul 6, 2019 |
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Philthy posted:Re 80s malls. I grew up with two huge malls in the 80s. They were filled with smoke and Gap stores weren’t a thing till mid 90s. (At least here) same with food courts, those didn’t show up till 1990 and beyond. Orange Julius were there (and still are). Also way too much neon, that also didn’t show up till the early 90s. (Sad but true) Once Nirvana hit it everything went dark. The pastels disappeared overnight. We had food courts before the 90's and some neon (this was Las Vegas though so neon wasn't exactly hard to find). Agree completely on Nirvana though. It was really wild to see one music video alter everything pop culture overnight. What weird to me is that films always show movie theaters in the mall. We had four malls when I was growing up and not a one had a theater.
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Stranger Things Season 3: Like Dead Space but with less dead girlfriends
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I dunno about your malls, but the mall where I grew up was built in the 80s and had the neon and the food court. But the other mall across town was built in the 60s and sure as hell didn't. Edit: Am i the only one who was kind of excited thinking that Jonathan was going to die when that flayed was about to crack his spine with that stool? Not that I hate Jonathan, but I was excited that they'd really push those boundaries and kill a main character like that. CainFortea fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Jul 6, 2019 |
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Tons of malls had theaters on the East Coast. The local mall near me, Kings Plaza in Brooklyn, had the shittiest movie theater in the city within this decade. bring back old gbs posted:There is no god drat way Hopper isn't in that cell in russia. Doing 24/7 pull ups so they can do the Hellboy-funded brick shithouse reveal in season 4 I would also say that between the Neverending Story song and Dustin giving Erica the nerd poo poo, I think the show has really left the door open to future seasons not necessarily having to follow the main cast.
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I’m still waiting for the science teacher’s moment to shine.
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Davros1 posted:Suzie was perfectly cast. should have been a canadian
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I dont know about hte 80s but our mall def had a theater. Nowadays it's basically the mall "white people used to go to" ala the Chris Rock standup my only thing is I have a hard time believing bumfuck Indiana would get a mall (hell an arcade) worthy of a major metropolitan area especially after its industries get gutted by the rise of japan
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Failson posted:The bad: This was characters I like, dropped into a remake of the 80's Blob. Man I really though they were gonna go further there with the Flayed. That part where it oozes down through the grate, leaving the bone behind and we see it in the sewer was definitely '88 Blob-inspired. I guess dissolving people alive like in that movie would have been too intense, and I think they got away with what they did here by establishing that the Flayed were already screwed and just having them emotionlessly turn into goo was preferable. Random thoughts after 24 hours or so: The antagonists: the whole Russian facility breaking into the Upside Down thing makes me think of Brian Lumley's Necroscope/Vampire World series, where in the early 80s Russia tries to develop an energy shield to protect it from nuclear attack but it backfires and creates a wormhole into another dimension. Likely not the inspiration here but it really made me think of it. the giant superscience Russia base under the town is just so incredibly dumb and already straining credulity in a show where fantastic poo poo happens, but I bought it anyway because - as others pointed out upthread - it's exactly the kind of thing you'd see in an 80's sci-fi/horror movie involving Russian antagonists. (Dustin even says "Red Dawn!" when they break into the base) related to the above but from the mid-credits stinger How have they contained a Demogorgon? Wouldn't it be phasing through walls/into the Upside Down? Maybe they trained it so if it sticks around it'll get to feed? On a general note, the whole idea of Russia weaponizing the Upside Down and its inhabitants feels very Charles Stross/A Colder War the whole end of episode 5 with Nancy and Jonathan in the hospital fighting their possessed colleagues owned. Jake Busey was creepy as poo poo. The heroes I know what they were going for in the first few episodes with Hopper trying and barely managing the whole "dad" thing but something just felt off or forced about it. He was my favorite character in season 1 and this season he just felt off the rails most of the time. How is Steve not in a wheelchair or otherwise utterly hosed up after these last two seasons? I know, it's sci-fi adventure fiction but man, the dude takes as much as a beating as the Russian terminator guy. And at least absorbing punishment is that guy's whole character establishment so you expect him to take it, but poor Steve, jesus. Robin was a great addition to the show and it amazes me how far Steve has come since season 1, re: their whole conversation in the bathroom near the end. I want to like Erica but man, the sarcasm/shittalking just never ended with her and she just feels incredibly one-note, which is a shame because I think the actress is doing the best she can with it.
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For more mall porn, watch the 2016 movie "Camera Store". No 80's nostalgia, as it's set in 1994. It is on Netflix.
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Also drat I bet Phillip and Elizabeth Jennings must have gotten worn out ferrying all those soldiers and scientists to Indiana.
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I clicked on the wrong link on Reddit and got major spoilers before I got to watch the first episode. RIP Hopper I guess. 
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Bruteman posted:Jake Busey was creepy as poo poo. Dude has never not been a human chesire cat Annath posted:I clicked on the wrong link on Reddit and got major spoilers before I got to watch the first episode. just watch
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Were there credits scenes in the first two seasons? Can't check at work and I won't remember to check when I get home
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I'll echo the "Erica is one note" sentiment as well. Really didn't care about her and she added nothing at all to the story.
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:Were there credits scenes in the first two seasons? Can't check at work and I won't remember to check when I get home No. This is a new thing, same with the songs playing during credits, if I recall correctly.
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Something I've come to notice is sometimes our main heroes seem to murder people in this show. Then they act like things are normal.
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