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AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

Bust Rodd posted:

Everytime I check in on this thread I have to scroll through pages and pages before I see the names Maxwell or Epstein

seriously? Mods and IKs are working their asses off around here

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HELLO LADIES
Feb 15, 2008
:3 -$5 :3

cuppy tea posted:

I was unfairly probed over the holocaust post. What I was trying to say was that I believe that there are pre-planned human sacrifice events based on numerology and there is a dark occult force made up of the major abrahamic religions that is behind them.

You weren't unfairly probed and tbh you should be banned. "Abrahamic religions" is an inherently anti-Semitic term. The only theology Christianity and Islam have in common is bastardization and demonization of the "old Testament", because both religions are usurpers/colonists/cultural appropriators who need to demonize the source to keep the marks they were evangelizing to from just converting to Judaism and/or doing what Judaism says is required of non-Jews, basically "keep the Noahide laws".

Just the fact that you're banging on about the common link of Abraham, ie, the guy who stopped human sacrifice, should clue you in, and in fact it did clue you in, which is why you have to invent your stupid little "no actually there's another secret layer to this!". The numerology and mysticism in Kabbalah is honestly fairly stupid, but it arose because complex, multi-layered interpretation is just what happens when you have a changing group of people over time interpreting the same strictly copied, unerring text, and what cryptic methods there are for concealing things in the text and actual cipher capabilities of Jewish mystics and the Jewish community existed were developed because of how both Christians and Muslims would kill them for practicing their religion at various times, so it had to be done in secret.

There are in fact a ton of atrocious, bloodthirsty aspects of Christian religious dogma and even direct Islamic theology (every half-educated MAGA chud has heard of "dhimmitude" at this point), but for some reason the "dark psychic forces" in "Abrahamic religions" never talk about any of that, they always point to a vague, completely asspulled idea of Jewish theology and the "Jewish patriarchal God", based on various fanfic ideas of the Torah present mainly in Christianity and Christian interpretation of Judaism, and conveniently ignoring the mythology/theology of every other culture, because shockingly enough, it's all from the perspective of European Christians, meaning they aren't capable of noticing how they're giving themselves away. It's all just the same old blood libel with a new spin.

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
I don’t think the abrahamic stuff squares with the moloch worship. It’s not that the big 3 religions are evil, but the church itself etc has been corrupted by the forces their ideologies stand against. eg the pedo priests are bad christians but that behaviour is counter to the intended nature of the religion. I know it’s old hat at this point but the zeitgeist (lol) connection of Christianity and the rest to sun worship probably has a little bit of credence as far as the intentions behind the people in the institutions. the average person just thinks of a literal man in the clouds instead of Ra or whoever it may secretly be

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


HELLO LADIES posted:

You weren't unfairly probed and tbh you should be banned. "Abrahamic religions" is an inherently anti-Semitic term. The only theology Christianity and Islam have in common is bastardization and demonization of the "old Testament", because both religions are usurpers/colonists/cultural appropriators who need to demonize the source to keep the marks they were evangelizing to from just converting to Judaism and/or doing what Judaism says is required of non-Jews, basically "keep the Noahide laws".

Just the fact that you're banging on about the common link of Abraham, ie, the guy who stopped human sacrifice, should clue you in, and in fact it did clue you in, which is why you have to invent your stupid little "no actually there's another secret layer to this!". The numerology and mysticism in Kabbalah is honestly fairly stupid, but it arose because complex, multi-layered interpretation is just what happens when you have a changing group of people over time interpreting the same strictly copied, unerring text, and what cryptic methods there are for concealing things in the text and actual cipher capabilities of Jewish mystics and the Jewish community existed were developed because of how both Christians and Muslims would kill them for practicing their religion at various times, so it had to be done in secret.

There are in fact a ton of atrocious, bloodthirsty aspects of Christian religious dogma and even direct Islamic theology (every half-educated MAGA chud has heard of "dhimmitude" at this point), but for some reason the "dark psychic forces" in "Abrahamic religions" never talk about any of that, they always point to a vague, completely asspulled idea of Jewish theology and the "Jewish patriarchal God", based on various fanfic ideas of the Torah present mainly in Christianity and Christian interpretation of Judaism, and conveniently ignoring the mythology/theology of every other culture, because shockingly enough, it's all from the perspective of European Christians, meaning they aren't capable of noticing how they're giving themselves away. It's all just the same old blood libel with a new spin.

source your quotes

Professorjuggalo
Oct 22, 2019

by Cyrano4747
kinda weird to go after cuppy for anti-Semitic poo poo and then say Christianity and especially Islam are evil to the core

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


well yes, it's true that these three world religions are all based around the idea of a hereditary covenant with god and use as their template for that covenant the same prehistoric protomyth with a named protagonist, but it's actually bigotry to notice that

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
Judaism also has the unfortunate attribute of having been first chronologically and hence first to be blamed

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


cuppy's handlers keep popping up in this thread and making scenes by probing him

You guys are going to lose your bonus this quarter!

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
If you want a general far off-topic conspiracy thread, please make one and let the forum judge it on its own merits.

Of course with this kind of stuff the thread will always go off topic, but CSPAM should have a thread for discussion of active Epstein/sex trafficker/recent stuff, and that is this thread.

This isn't condoning totally insane poo poo like Cuppy Tea, but it's not right for this thread either way.

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

TheAardvark posted:

If you want a general far off-topic conspiracy thread, please make one and let the forum judge it on its own merits.

Of course with this kind of stuff the thread will always go off topic, but CSPAM should have a thread for discussion of active Epstein/sex trafficker/recent stuff, and that is this thread.

This isn't condoning totally insane poo poo like Cuppy Tea, but it's not right for this thread either way.

i feel like this thread would be dead w/o cuppy postin'. maxwell's trial is a long ways off and you can only fill so much thread with dersh tweets about how he stripped down to his underwear so an underage girls could touch him at epstein's manor.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

Delta-Wye posted:

i feel like this thread would be dead w/o cuppy postin'. maxwell's trial is a long ways off and you can only fill so much thread with dersh tweets about how he stripped down to his underwear so an underage girls could touch him at epstein's manor.

It is fine if this thread dies until there's actual new or interesting stuff related to it. That's why I said to make a new thread: people mostly read from bookmarks at this point, and the people looking for Epstein poo poo instead get this thread which consistently has nothing to do with it.

There is no good reason this thread has to continue to be about any and all conspiracies. Just make a new thread for that. Everyone wins.

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



I like cuppys posts they bring the agents out of the woods to tell us to get back on track lol

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
I didn’t see a thread for the TrueAnon podcast, which is currently delving into the “Epstein Extended Universe”, but I’d be happy to discuss it here since everything they talk about is looped in at least tangentially to the bigger picture

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

Professorjuggalo posted:

kinda weird to go after cuppy for anti-Semitic poo poo and then say Christianity and especially Islam are evil to the core

Man I really don't want to wade into this poo poo but that's not what he said and your comment feels intentionally obtuse.

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

source your quotes

Holy poo poo you really need a source for Judaism being punishable under Christianity and Islam for most of its history as a minority religion? History is really not taught anymore? For 2000 years Christians were taught from childhood that Jews killed Christ and Jews were of the devil. For an example under Islam I highly recommend reading the travels of Benjamin of Tudela. It's widely available online and I wish I'd read it recently enough that I could give you a page number for examples. It's a fascinating travelogue on its own merit and I read it years ago. To be fair, until the modern state of Israel Jews were much better off under Islamic rule. It's mostly Christians who made killing Jews a core part of being a good adherent. That's not saying that Christianity is evil, but it's founding myths and the Catholic Church made it so the Jews living amongst them had hell to pay for most of its existence.

e: The mod posts above were made while I was typing this. Didn't mean to intentionally continue this derail after it's being asked to be shut down, apologies.

jojoinnit has issued a correction as of 21:17 on Aug 31, 2020

Giga Gaia
May 2, 2006

360 kickflip to... Meteo?!
ty to the mods working their asses off to ensure threads in cspam arent filled with unintelligible garbage

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
Thank you, working hard! -the mods

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Cuppys posts are what I wanted for PCS when I got them to bring it back but it was too ironic

This is the good poo poo imo

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

i have been reading into mkultra as an adjunct to our epstein/mind control/manson investigations. and this brought me to UFOs as a psyop and then the mothman sightings, which i understand a lot of people suspect was some kind of dark op training program in covert warfare using the town of point pleasant as guinea pigs, but the media attention made them shut it down. i found this insane gibberish which is fun to read

http://realmib.tripod.com/jdnotes5.html

and i also found this, which imo supports my hunch that the CIA were definitely up to *something* in point pleasant in 67:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-10996838

gh0stpinballa has issued a correction as of 21:32 on Aug 31, 2020

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


jojoinnit posted:

Man I really don't want to wade into this poo poo but that's not what he said and your comment feels intentionally obtuse.


Holy poo poo you really need a source for Judaism being punishable under Christianity and Islam for most of its history as a minority religion? History is really not taught anymore? For 2000 years Christians were taught from childhood that Jews killed Christ and Jews were of the devil. For an example under Islam I highly recommend reading the travels of Benjamin of Tudela. It's widely available online and I wish I'd read it recently enough that I could give you a page number for examples. It's a fascinating travelogue on its own merit and I read it years ago. To be fair, until the modern state of Israel Jews were much better off under Islamic rule. It's mostly Christians who made killing Jews a core part of being a good adherent. That's not saying that Christianity is evil, but it's founding myths and the Catholic Church made it so the Jews living amongst them had hell to pay for most of its existence.

e: The mod posts above were made while I was typing this. Didn't mean to intentionally continue this derail after it's being asked to be shut down, apologies.

so did you not read the first paragraph of what i quoted or what

for on-topic content, my wife has been obsessed with that epstein documentary and she's seriously crack pinging. we actually lived about 9 miles away from little saint james at one point (we lived on st. thomas) and everyone down there knew about him, everyone. he wouldn't be caught dead on STT (because it's full of poor black people) so i never saw him but i would have definitely thrown a brick at him if i could have.

also that's not the only pedo island down there, only the most well known. a lot of the little islands off of STT are owned by old families from the area or diseased rich fucks and they all rape kids.

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

so did you not read the first paragraph of what i quoted or what

I didn't take that bit as what you meant. The latter religions are bastardisations of the old testament, they depend upon the source material of Judaism for their openings. I do apologise for my tone, I can see it came off way too strong. Neither exist without Judaism and both demonised it to propel themselves and demonised Jews to explain themselves.


quote:

for on-topic content, my wife has been obsessed with that epstein documentary and she's seriously crack pinging. we actually lived about 9 miles away from little saint james at one point (we lived on st. thomas) and everyone down there knew about him, everyone. he wouldn't be caught dead on STT (because it's full of poor black people) so i never saw him but i would have definitely thrown a brick at him if i could have.

also that's not the only pedo island down there, only the most well known. a lot of the little islands off of STT are owned by old families from the area or diseased rich fucks and they all rape kids.

Now this is back on topic! I assume you're close enough to have seen the pizza boat that makes the rounds apparently? How much local gossip went on at the time? I remember that handyman in the Netflix doc basically making it sound like an open secret.

nut
Jul 30, 2019

I, too, very much wanna hear stories about Epstein from St. Thomas

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
Also, the alleged names of the other local island owners whose ill behavior is considered de jure

it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008

MysteriousStranger posted:

The only documented cases of this are Sparta (which who loving cares, this is the least of the issues there) and Franco's Spain where the rich openly hunted the poor for sport.

He wasn't mega rich and famous, but Robert Hansen was a serial killer who used to set his victims loose in the wilderness then hunt them like animals.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

so did you not read the first paragraph of what i quoted or what

for on-topic content, my wife has been obsessed with that epstein documentary and she's seriously crack pinging. we actually lived about 9 miles away from little saint james at one point (we lived on st. thomas) and everyone down there knew about him, everyone. he wouldn't be caught dead on STT (because it's full of poor black people) so i never saw him but i would have definitely thrown a brick at him if i could have.

also that's not the only pedo island down there, only the most well known. a lot of the little islands off of STT are owned by old families from the area or diseased rich fucks and they all rape kids.

wait what

Are the other islands specifically tied to people the way LSJ was?

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

Also, the alleged names of the other local island owners whose ill behavior is considered de jure

there's lots; thatch cay was owned by a company called "idealight" who supposedly wanted to build an eco resort there but it never got off the ground. branson's island is called Necker and it's technically closer to the BVI and so falls under their jurisdiction but that's not really relevant. idk much about guana island because it's on the far side of tortola but norman island is SE of st. john, and both it and guana are owned by a german billionaire named jarecki.

the classic "big local family" is the Paiewonskys, who used to own Hassel Island until the mid 20th century and absolutely got up to devilish shenanigans there. the trouble is that hassel island is really close to STT, as in you can swim ashore, so it's not ideal as a child rape site. anyways the paiewonskys sold it in the 60s i think.

jojoinnit posted:

I didn't take that bit as what you meant. The latter religions are bastardisations of the old testament, they depend upon the source material of Judaism for their openings. I do apologise for my tone, I can see it came off way too strong. Neither exist without Judaism and both demonised it to propel themselves and demonised Jews to explain themselves.


Now this is back on topic! I assume you're close enough to have seen the pizza boat that makes the rounds apparently? How much local gossip went on at the time? I remember that handyman in the Netflix doc basically making it sound like an open secret.

bastardisation is a strong word and also theologically incorrect; judaism has space for a subsequent prophet bringing word of a new covenant, jews just disagree that jesus and/or mohammed were it.

pizza boat was a local institution but last i heard it sank during hurricane irma. i haven't lived on island since november 2017 so if the owners got it back running it was after i left
it looks like in 2018 they sold it, which to me means the owners saw the writing on the wall and sold their brand to some hapless newcomers and got out while the getting was good.

the local gossip is that everyone in the world knew that epstein was raping kids on that island. not that we could do anything about it because the government is hopelessly corrupt and also he never set foot on STT. maybe he went to STJ a few times because it's mostly rich white vacationers there, but even then they're like normal-rich, not epstein-rich and he probably hated them.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
DAD LOST MY IPOD, Dalmy as I have now decided you are called, do you still know what the area is like down there because of your family? If people knew children were being abused down there, are there any other islands like that that are "known" as child abuse islands?

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
the idea that there are just these random places that "oh yeah, everyone knows they rape kiddies down there" and the world ignores it is basically incomprehensible

well not really incomprehensible but really sad

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


TheAardvark posted:

the idea that there are just these random places that "oh yeah, everyone knows they rape kiddies down there" and the world ignores it is basically incomprehensible

well not really incomprehensible but really sad

i have no firsthand idea what's going on down there now, none of my family lives there. i keep in touch with my friends from down there and things are basically back to pre-Irma status quo but about 20% shittier, apparently, like the hospital never really recovered.

nothing like little st. james. it was on a whole new level. there's a general understanding that white billionaires who come down to private islands are debauched. basically: if you are coming to st. thomas but you're not landing on st. thomas itself, which is absolutely full of bars and restaurants and beaches and party spots and people whose entire career is entertaining tourists... and you're instead sequestering yourself on a little rock with nobody but your servants and guests for company... then the only reason to do that is because you don't want anyone to see what you're up to.

DAD LOST MY IPOD has issued a correction as of 03:51 on Sep 1, 2020

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

TheAardvark posted:

the idea that there are just these random places that "oh yeah, everyone knows they rape kiddies down there" and the world ignores it is basically incomprehensible

well not really incomprehensible but really sad

theres one in every town sorry

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

remember when epstein was arrested and someone launched a ddos attack on the florida sheriffs and miami herald

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

the classic "big local family" is the Paiewonskys, who used to own Hassel Island until the mid 20th century and absolutely got up to devilish shenanigans there.

What even are devilish shenanigans when childrape is the baseline? Or were you trying to make the bodytext more colorful? Just curious, thank you for :stare: content.

Edit:

gh0stpinballa posted:

remember when epstein was arrested and someone launched a ddos attack on the florida sheriffs and miami herald
I don't, actually. Link please?

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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

gh0stpinballa posted:

remember when epstein was arrested and someone launched a ddos attack on the florida sheriffs and miami herald

Remember when he died and there was a mass passport outage?

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
Even Pitcairn Island is awash in pedophiles with a population of 51 people

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:

Remember when he died and there was a mass passport outage?
I don't remember this one either. Is passport an app or something? Or were passports unable to be processed because of reasons?

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

Tubgoat posted:

I don't remember this one either. Is passport an app or something? Or were passports unable to be processed because of reasons?

A week after he died the passport system at airports broke down for like a day.

nut
Jul 30, 2019

is there evidence it was tied to Ghislane and her sisters or do I just have to know it in my heart

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

It's a funny coincidence but I wouldn't be shocked if it was within their general circle of influence.

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

nut posted:

is there evidence it was tied to Ghislane and her sisters or do I just have to know it in my heart

the S P I D E R nEtWoRk

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

nut posted:

is there evidence it was tied to Ghislane and her sisters or do I just have to know it in my heart

iirc her sister runs the security company that supplies airports on the west coast w customs software and this mysteriously crashed for four hours a couple of days after the in n out burger pic leaked

i can't find the link for the ddos now, but they hit either the sheriff or miami herald im sure of it.

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theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

Even Pitcairn Island is awash in pedophiles with a population of 51 people

my all time favorite thread-stopper

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