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Oct 18, 2013



Freud also egged one of his friends on in permanently disfiguring a woman with quack surgery and encouraged him to continue burning out the insides of people's noses afterward. He even told the woman the nose bleeds she suffered from for the rest of her life were the result of her hysterical longing for affection rather than a horribly botched surgery.

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Oct 18, 2013



I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Is it possible that Freud got all this poo poo wrong because he was the first one to try and do it?
Well his first theory that early modern to modern Austria was overrun with pedophiles and that this caused mental disorders in kids was 100% right. It's just that when he saw and documented this evidence it clashed with his world view and biases too much to accept. So he revised it and twisted horrible logic knocks to explain how all this abuse was imagined by children who really wanted it.

It's like how racist archeologists kept finding the remains of advanced civilizations in Africa, South America, Norther America, etc and decided that this was evidence of white people who just got killed off by the current inhabitants. When those inhabitants were actually direct descendants of those same civilizations after being hosed up by disasters both natural and man made.

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Oct 18, 2013



thehandtruck posted:

Someone mentioned his clients would say they were raped and he didn't believe them. He did believe them but when he went to publish the powers that be at the time threatened to blacklist him more than he already was (he was Jewish and basically broke at the time). So he re-published and gave in and put out the Oedipal complex and that sat better with the people in power. Also people seem to misunderstand that complex. It's basically just that life is hard and terrifying so one wants to go back into the womb, where they were safe and secure and contained. That comes out in dreams of having sex with one's mother or father but it isn't literal. Bion refined the idea into his Container - Contained model.
Either he double-thinked away evidence of child abuse or just consistently failed to stand up to power. The latter is understandable but given that it's central to primary thing he's known for it severely puts a damper on any attempt to consider Freud positively.

Also his support of Fliess was criminal even for the day. The guy was performing invasive surgeries based on pseudo science that had no basis even going by knowledge of that era.

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Oct 18, 2013



PetraCore posted:

If it was just lead poisoning every boomer would be similarily deranged, and yet many people managed to be decent, loving parents, so naw. It might be a factor but there's a lot of willful denial of facts to fit their emotional narrative that these people have.
Yeah lead poisoning lowers inhibitions, fucks with impulse control, and generally screws with your ability to weigh consequences. It doesn't make you a narcissist. Instead it's more likely to shout, more likely to do things they regret later, more likely to make bad financial decisions, etc.

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Oct 18, 2013



empty whippet box posted:

I feel absolutely no sympathy for this man and i laugh at his suffering. Should have listened when you had the chance, dipshit
It's a bit over a year old and the followup is he hasn't gotten anywhere with his daughter and is now divorced.

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Oct 18, 2013



What kinda church wants you already pregnant before marriage?

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