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Old Kentucky Shark posted:No, Garth Ennis doesn't hate muslims and can write female characters who aren't literal prostitutes. Ennis is like a 6.5 on whatever scale where Miller is a 10. From a few pages back but uh he goes out of his way multiple times in the comic to make jokes about Muslims being pedophiles and terrorists and zooms in on a porno later on to make sure you see a woman in a hijab getting gangbanged. I dunno enough about Miller's output to compare them but Ennis' stuff is chock-full of racist garbage and he's really comfortable tossing slurs around. StashAugustine posted:Yeah idk what's going on there. I can't imagine theres anything that could happen in that testimony that would hurt Vought more than murdering a witness, a congressman, and several bystanders including a supe in broad daylight "Supe terrorists did this and that's why we need them in the military so it never happens again" seems like a pretty easy sell, especially with all the work Homelander / Stormfront have been doing to whip people into a frenzy over it. Grizzled Patriarch fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Oct 2, 2020 |
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Also I'm kinda baffled on where they're going with the head-popping stuff. Feels like they needed to spend more time with Cindy if it's going to become a major plot point and I dunno how they'd pull that off with one episode left unless it's meant to be establishing a hook for Season 3. Blowing up the hearing / killing anyone investigating supes really doesn't seem to gel with what little dialogue / motivation we've gotten from the character so far, but we're obviously meant to at least be strongly considering that they're behind it even if it ends up being misdirection.
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Oct 2, 2020 07:19
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:"AMERICA SUCKERPUNCHED BY SUPER TERRORISTS" is a way better headline for Vought than anything that would have come out if that hearing went off as scheduled. Yeah lol this is literally *exactly* the sort of poo poo Americans, both on a government and civilian level, eat up uncritically and it dovetails perfectly into the show's not-so-subtle critique of American imperialism and the post-War on Terror erosion of civil liberties. Vought was about to get absolutely ripped apart in that hearing and now not only are the only people with enough info to hurt them gone, they get to spin it into a perfect justification to push forward with their original goal. Raynor, Vogelbaum, and Lamplighter were pretty much the only people who had knowledge that could put a dent in Vought's image and they're all dead now. The only people left are on the top of the FBI's most wanted list, a superhero that got publicly outed as a traitor and mole, and possibly a rogue supe that just escaped from what is on paper an asylum. Not a lot of credibility there and it pretty much leaves them with no option except violence. Panfilo posted:Why would Black Noir eat the candy bar and not spit it out? I get that Maeve is super strong and I guess she could just seive it through his teeth or something. But you'd think a supe wouldn't just let someone cram food in their mouth. Probably just caught him off guard and when your head gets yanked back like that your natural reflex is to try to open up your airway, but if his allergy is really severe just having some almonds smashed into his teeth could still be plenty. Grizzled Patriarch fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Oct 2, 2020 |
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Oct 2, 2020 22:49
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Snazzy Frocks posted:Super tech impenetrable tower doesn't alert anyone that lamplighter is suddenly opening doors in secure areas out of the blue For 15 years, the launch codes for the US nuclear arsenal were 00000000.
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Oct 3, 2020 01:02
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Azhais posted:We've never seen her pop a head, she just crushes people like beer cans. We've never seen her interact with cameras at all. When they're looking at the surveillance footage Kimiko lingers on the feed of Cindy and she slowly looks up at the camera and seems to know someone is watching her. It's very deliberate and definitely meant to imply some degree of telepathy, whether it's specifically through cameras or not.
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Oct 4, 2020 06:29
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Or maybe people occasionally look directly at security cameras, moreso if they're currently engaged in murdering the people who man them. I mean yeah people do that in real life but when you have a lingering shot of someone looking at the feed, then a slow zoom as they look up at it all menacingly at the precise moment they start watching them, then cut back to a confused reaction, that's pretty basic visual literacy stuff. It's a very deliberate series of shots that in combination are meant to communicate something to the viewer beyond "she just happened to look at the camera." She also had no idea anything was wrong at that point - they'd snuck in and silently killed the guard but it hadn't gone off the rails yet. edit: which is not to say that she 100% without question blew up everyone's head by watching them on the TV or anything, just that the way that segment was shot seems to very much imply at least some tiny degree of clairvoyance / telepathy. Grizzled Patriarch fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Oct 4, 2020 |
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Oct 4, 2020 07:19
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Open Source Idiom posted:But, like, this happens all the time in TV and film, and I've never seen it be the case that the person on the other end was aware they were being watched, or capable of sending head explosion magic through the camera lens. I feel like almost every time that shot gets used in like a horror movie or something it's meant to indicate "this person either senses you or knows you're watching them and is on their way to come gently caress you up"? Or at least much more often than it gets used as a random shot signifying nothing. As far as Cindy knew at that point literally nothing out of the ordinary was happening. I'm not advocating for the "blowing everyone up through the TV" angle but to play devil's advocate with it, I suppose she didn't kill them for the same reason she didn't splatter them all over when they were face to face - Cindy isn't an indiscriminate killer and seems to have at least some sort of "code" - as far as we've seen with conclusive proof, she's only killed people directly responsible for her imprisonment and torture. She didn't even kill the guard until he actually magdumped into her back. Grizzled Patriarch fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Oct 4, 2020 |
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Oct 4, 2020 07:31
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Azhais posted:But it literally didn't happen at all.  It absolutely does happen. Starts at 19:50.
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Oct 4, 2020 07:53
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Woden posted:Still lolin' at that lasagna. The little background gags have been great all throughout.
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Oct 4, 2020 08:12
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I think they could still easily go that route thematically with Stormfront instead if they want to, but they've elevated the source material to the point that I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that whatever they decide to do is going to be as good or better.
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Oct 4, 2020 23:47
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So many great moments in this episode, holy poo poo. The catharsis of that Stormfront beatdown, the fabled rooftop jerkin', Deep's exit where the only thing he could think up off the top of his head was "gently caress Fresca"... Starr somehow one-upped himself in this one, the control he has over his face is completely insane and I genuinely wonder how much practice that sort of thing takes. Slightly bummed about Cindy's plot seemingly just being a season 3 hook (unless it was just a red herring, which I hope isn't the case because you can't hire a drat professional contortionist / stunt supervisor and then not use them) Also how did they even get away with all the Fresca shittalking lol, I thought shows were notoriously cagey about doing anything that could even remotely risk a lawsuit but they've gone out of their way like a dozen times to say Fresca is gross and then kept associating it with a cult and a sex pest.
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Oct 9, 2020 21:47
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Do you guys think Homelander put two and two together when he saw his son who hasn't even learned how to actually use his powers blow Stormfront into half a dozen pieces after his eye lasers just gave her a few blisters, or no.
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Oct 9, 2020 22:04
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I think Homelander could have probably pretty easily killed Stormfront if he'd put effort into it, but I also think that her fear in his presence was mostly an act because she had been around the block enough times to know that he's easiest to manipulate when he thinks people are afraid / in awe of him - the scene a few episodes back where he tries to intimidate her with his little thumb-on-the-throat move and she doesn't blink even when he starts pushing enough to make his gloves start creaking seems to indicate that she's not as scared of him as she lets on. An untrained child who presumably has a lower concentration of V in their system than someone specifically injected with it from birth in a lab setting being able to dismember her on accident seems like a much bigger deal than he treated it as. Either way I'm curious which way they plan to go with it - I think it would be a mistake to make him a central part of the show but he also seems too important now to just tuck away in a CIA protection program and never mention again, especially since they're explicitly setting him up as an insurance policy against Homelander.
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Oct 9, 2020 22:31
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Cojawfee posted:So is Homelander going to spend the rest of the season coming up with a specifically crafted thing he forces each supe to do for him that he knows they will hate? He's already forced Starlight into pretending to be in a relationship with him and forced Deep to eat Timothy. Plus the forced outing of Maeve from last season - definitely seems to be his preferred way of getting back at people who slight him. He's very good at that almost-plausibly deniable brand of cruelty where his justification would buckle under the slightest scrutiny but it's backed up by being an all-powerful psychopath. Black Noir is probably safe since he's pretty much exactly what Homelander wants (unfailingly loyal, mute, no interest in the limelight, easily exploited Achilles heel) but I could easily see him ramping up on A-Train. Grizzled Patriarch fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Jun 5, 2022 |
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Jun 5, 2022 23:37
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It would actually be kinda funny for them to do the twist from the comics but it turns out nobody cares / they think its all a deep state plot / his base decides it's good, actually.
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Jun 12, 2022 00:47
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:
He's a relatively skinny dude underneath all that padding - I was actually surprised they did the nude scene with him because it was so jarring how tiny he looked out of the suit, but I guess if you're an invincible flying man with eye lasers you don't really have an incentive to hit the gym.
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Jun 12, 2022 04:40
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The writers have surprised me before so hopefully that keeps up but it kinda feels like the Frenchie / Kimiko storyline wrote itself into a bit of a corner. It really seems like they're setting up a plot beat where Frenchie gets captured / tortured and Kimiko saves him but dies in the process because her powers are gone, and that would be pretty lame. The "one last job that goes tragically wrong" setup is just so cliche that they've gotta subvert that somehow. In general they've probably had the least amount of actual development of any of the characters between seasons, but they are both great when they've got material to work with. I do think they suffer the most from the team dynamic being de-emphasized since neither of them really have any other characters to bounce off of (I guess Little Nina is supposed to be doing that for Frenchie, but honestly she's not particularly compelling so far).
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Jun 17, 2022 22:49
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Dalael posted:Gonna be honest, this kind of attitude kinda bugs me. LIke, what do you guys want/ a complete backstory of every character to show exactly who they are or what they can do? She's russian mob. Tell me, in real life, would you need an introduction and a bunch of cliparts before you take a mob boss seriously? My issue isn't that we don't see enough of her background or whatever, it's just that it's not that interesting or really a source of any meaningful dramatic suspense. The Boys are basically fighting gods and now they're juicing up with V, who gives a poo poo about the Russian mob? Like they couldn't even track down Cherie and need outside help to do their hits, they would have been a joke even before Butcher or Hughie (or Kimiko until literally a couple hours ago) were able to casually annihilate their entire operation during a lunch break - they just whacked an entire secret lab full of Spetnaz who were much more competent. And now they're trying to "team up" with another seemingly invincible guy who basically drops a tactical nuke every time he hears a Russian accent. Maybe it's all leading into an interesting direction and I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt but so far everything involving Little Nina feels like either padding, a convenient plot device, or retreading old ground. Happy to be proven wrong but it's definitely felt like the weakest part of the show for these past few episodes. Grizzled Patriarch fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Jun 18, 2022 |
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Jun 18, 2022 00:17
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With how un-subtle the Trump parallels are I kinda wonder if Homelander / Soldier Boy is gonna end up being a New Right / GOP type of conflict, where they both pretty much agree on all the broad strokes, but Soldier Boy is pissed off that the new "face of America" is a gauche rear end in a top hat who says the quiet parts out loud. Regardless of how you read his reaction to that kiss, we still know Soldier Boy is a piece of poo poo. He's possibly a sex criminal - or at least a child abuser even if we take Gunpowder at face value - his entire team hated him so much that they were fine with selling him out to a hostile power to be tortured / presumably killed, and MM's whole subplot is about his complete lack of care for collateral damage / probable racism. He's probably gonna be pissed off at Homelander, but not for the right reasons. I'm actually curious to see how Butcher plans on pitching this team-up - he might hate Stan Edgar, but Edgar wants Homelander out of the picture, too. Maybe by giving him an opportunity to get back at Black Noir (his lines made it seem like he was fully aware and on-board with betraying Soldier Boy)? Motivation-wise all we've seen so far is him being driven by revenge, but maybe just seeing what Vought has become will be enough.
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Jun 18, 2022 16:52
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christmas boots posted:IIRC the plane stuff is a deconstruction of how Superman does the same stuff in the comics and how the physics just wouldn’t work. Like he said if he tried to use his strength he’d just end up punching through the plane Yeah, I was kinda hoping they'd do more sly inversions of the goofy comic book physics stuff. I'm trying to think if the show ever did a "superhero bends the barrel of someone's gun" shot because that's another visual that shows up in like every superhero and superhero-adjacent piece of media despite being very obviously dumb if you think about it for half a second. Just Chamber posted:I'm skipping pages here but when Homelander saw Soldier Boy on the screen I definitely didn't take that as him being scared. Instead I took it as him seeing the potential as he always does to spin it into a PR stunt that makes him look good and gets him on TV, that's why he instantly jumped to telling them to book tv interviews. I don't think he's scared (just because he's too egotistical to believe that anything is a threat) but the use of the tinnitus sound effect / Charlie Brown mumbling in the background is definitely part of the show's established language and almost always signals that Homelander is either feeling overwhelmed or personally affronted - in this case it seems like it's the latter since he explicitly asks Maeve if she and Butcher brought this guy in as part of their plan to undermine him, right after wondering aloud if Edgar and the mayor were doing it to gently caress with him. I don't think he's threatened by Soldier Boy yet, but he certainly seems to believe its an attempt to hurt him. Grizzled Patriarch fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Jun 18, 2022 |
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Gaius Marius posted:The bent barrel thing can work. It's incredibly impractical, impossible to aim, has no range, and the barrel needs to be replaced after only a couple hundred rounds. Oh yeah I meant the "superhero grabs some random goon's gun and twists the barrel, rending it inoperable" thing, which would require the guy holding the gun to be as strong as the person twisting it.
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