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Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.


Grimey Drawer

FMguru posted:

happy new year, trig

happy new year!

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fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005



FMguru posted:

happy new year, trig

mystes
May 31, 2006



FMguru posted:

happy new year, trig
Don't sine your posts

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through


Achmed Jones posted:

c arthritis s: gently caress my hands hurt. voltaren makes them not hurt but then i get nauseous. i could counter that by only applying it in a full stomach but ain't nobody got time for breakfast, that's sleepin time

keep an egg mcmuffin by the bed

mystes posted:

Don't sine your posts

this is a ridiculous tangent

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006


Nap Ghost

mediaphage posted:

keep an egg mcmuffin by the bed

this is just good advice in general

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through


Shaggar posted:

this is just good advice in general

shachar was right

siri insists this is your name now

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





mediaphage posted:

keep an egg mcmuffin by the bed

:hmmyes: heck yeah good call

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme


Achmed Jones posted:

c arthritis s: gently caress my hands hurt. voltaren makes them not hurt but then i get nauseous. i could counter that by only applying it in a full stomach but ain't nobody got time for breakfast, that's sleepin time

seriouspost, ask you physician about metclopramide. it's an anti-nausa medication that I take along with voltaren against migraines. it makes the voltaren more effective and also stops me from barfing from the migraine. it's a cheap generic too.

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





i will do that, thank you! still dont have a doctor since the move but ill put it on the list

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Achmed Jones posted:

i will do that, thank you! still dont have a doctor since the move but ill put it on the list

It's kind of a pharmacological sledgehammer for nsaid stomach upsettedness. You might want to try an acid reducer first (tagamet), or a naproxen regime (2x daily with food). Hurry up and get a doctor old goon, they know best.

Have you been formally diagnosed with osteoarthritis in your hands, or are you just assuming because they hurt?

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





i said they hurt and the doctor ran some tests and said "it's probably arthritis". no like x-rays or anything but he checked for elevated white blood cells and some other stuff i think. i don't remember really, it was a couple years ago

thanks for the recs - i'll try naproxen. hopefully i can tolerate it

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Achmed Jones posted:

i said they hurt and the doctor ran some tests and said "it's probably arthritis". no like x-rays or anything but he checked for elevated white blood cells and some other stuff i think. i don't remember really, it was a couple years ago

thanks for the recs - i'll try naproxen. hopefully i can tolerate it

Take it as directed on the label - if you just take it whenever it doesn't help that much. If your under like.. 50 I'd recommend trying to nail down why they hurt - especially if they ache bad enough to make it hard to concentrate, fall asleep, or do your work. Sometimes pain is a normal part of aging, and sometimes it isn't.

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007



Clapping Larry

Achmed Jones posted:

thanks for the recs - i'll try naproxen. hopefully i can tolerate it

Iíve been getting some nerve pain in my hands and naproxen is great for it, worked better than cortisone for me. no side effects but Iím pretty lucky with most medication that way. itís sold as period pain medication in AU, not sure why itís not the default anti inflammatory because is seems better than anything else. works for my gout too.

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually


College Slice

i was first diagnosed with osteoarthritis around age 24 iirc

i used to take ibuprofen and naproxen but i had to switch to tylenol arthritis (doctor supervised) b/c nsaids give me instant diarrhea. doc tried me on other nsaids too including voltaren gels and oral diclofenac (ie voltaren but a pill) with enteric coating but i couldn't tolerate them any better than naproxen, which is too bad because naproxen was really good at stopping the pain.

i 100% recommend nsaids if you can tolerate them though, they're so much better for you than tylenol.

mystes
May 31, 2006



Long term nsaid use may actually not be great for you in various ways but it's probably not that bad at least

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade




popping too many ibuprofens could wreck your kidneys

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





i had a low cabinet drawer open in the bathroom. hit my shin on it real hard. i do not remember the last time i hurt like this lmao

y'all should've seen the arm flailing and "whooooOOOOOaaaAAAAAaaaa" on the way down. The dad from malcolm in the middle would've been so proud

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





ok it still hurts but i'm like 99.9% sure i didnt crack or chip anything

made me stop thinkin about my hands hurtin tho lol

Lysidas
Jul 26, 2002

John Diefenbaker is a madman who thinks he's John Diefenbaker.


Pillbug

i went for a run yesterday for the first time in a wihle and i was pleasantly surprised by how much i was able to push myself

i did not remember that i could be sore in so many places

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


Lysidas posted:

i did not remember that i could be sore in so many places

Wait till you need physical therapy. There are teeny tiny little muscles all over the place that feel like you got hit with a ball peen hammer for about a week the first time you ever deliberately exercise them.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005



SYSV Fanfic posted:

Wait till you need physical therapy. There are teeny tiny little muscles all over the place that feel like you got hit with a ball peen hammer for about a week the first time you ever deliberately exercise them.

yah it took me like a week of work to rebuild the muscles i needed to sit upright in a chair after being placed into the chair by a nurse. lol.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




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aww that sucks, i always consider you a standup kind of guy :3:

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts



in the same vein the first two-ish weeks of going back to the office even part time was lol

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004



Binary Badger posted:

popping too many ibuprofens could wreck your kidneys

this is true of any nsaid but the number one rule for nsaids is fluids if youíre drinking and youíre peeing itís ok, donít get dehydrated! drink fluid. maybe try water but if itís wet itís get

also osteoarthritis? I know Iíve said it lots before but had surprising success with customers on hemp seed oil. many people have great things to say. maybe you will too

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004



gently caress my dad is going blind. he'll have to stop driving soon. poo poo

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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that sucks. is it at all treatable

how do you feel about becoming a chauffeur for pops

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004



nah itís end of the road diabetes


god havenít thought about having to drive him round tbf.. gently caress

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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echinopsis posted:

nah itís end of the road diabetes


god havenít thought about having to drive him round tbf.. gently caress

ah i wondered. last time i talked to someone who knew my mother a few years ago said sheís completing ignoring the eye doctor and letting diabetes just run wild on the eyes Į\_(ツ)_/Į

maybe you both can make 2022 the year of watruary

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007



hm

why do people let things go so far? it's not like diabetes is not treatable

"hm it seems i have a lot of black dots in my peripheral vision. i'll better ignore it and continue to chow down pure sugar"

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




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Tankakern posted:

hm

why do people let things go so far? it's not like diabetes is not treatable

"hm it seems i have a lot of black dots in my peripheral vision. i'll better ignore it and continue to chow down pure sugar"

doctors are assholes and will guaranteed make you feel bad about how you've 'not taken care of yourself', are going to refer you to a specialist who is booked for the next 11 weeks but maybe they can see you in May, oh and you're going to get a bill for that for $17,320. how is this difficult to understand

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through


thatís also true for many people

but the eye doctor is nearly a personal friend of the family, she just doesnít care. them coke 12 packs ainít gonna drink themselves yknow

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004



Tankakern posted:

hm

why do people let things go so far? it's not like diabetes is not treatable

"hm it seems i have a lot of black dots in my peripheral vision. i'll better ignore it and continue to chow down pure sugar"

progressive diseases tend to do their thing, you can slow it down but itís a battle of attrition against your cardiovascular system and throw a few decades into the mix

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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echinopsis posted:

progressive diseases tend to do their thing, you can slow it down but itís a battle of attrition against your cardiovascular system and throw a few decades into the mix

youíre totally right on this. and for some it doesnít matter. does your dad follow a proper regimen at all or does he like sneak cake in and pretend otherwise

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003


It takes a lot of willpower to follow a strict diet, maintain a set weight, comply with glucose monitoring. On top of whatever else you've got to deal with in life a lot of people just can't maintain that level of discipline over thrity+ years.

Willpower is a limited resource.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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SYSV Fanfic posted:

It takes a lot of willpower to follow a strict diet, maintain a set weight, comply with glucose monitoring. On top of whatever else you've got to deal with in life a lot of people just can't maintain that level of discipline over thrity+ years.

Willpower is a limited resource.

iím aware of this for sure. but thereís definitely a difference between someone who mostly does a good job and someone who completely ignores all medical advice

mind you i expect a nontrivial portion of the latter group probably would also benefit from therapy and since a huge part of the world seems to view that sort of thing as a personal failing, well.

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually


College Slice

In addition to the other good points mentioned, a lot of older people have undiagnosed mood disorders that they have been conditioned to hide.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Cold on a Cob posted:

In addition to the other good points mentioned, a lot of older people have undiagnosed mood disorders that they have been conditioned to hide.

totally agree

and even though younger people are more open about it thereíre still huge swaths that feel the same way

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




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im 42 and like 87.2% of my entire existence is load-bearing coping mechanisms to cover up poo poo but the alternative is laying all that stuff bare and now i got fired bc im 'unstable' and none of my friends talk to me bc im 'sketchy' and a 'doomer'

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004



mediaphage posted:

youíre totally right on this. and for some it doesnít matter. does your dad follow a proper regimen at all or does he like sneak cake in and pretend otherwise

eh itís also that diabetes is a complex disease and itís difficult to maintain great control but not so hard
to have OK control. heís never been and never will be the kind of person to calculate his insulin based on carb content so heíll forever have to take slightly less insulin because too much isnít doable, and so thereís decades of that.

and also people missing that blood glucose is a marker for diabetes and not the disease itself and even if your blood glucose stays good other poo poo goes on, and for example ice cream barely elevates blood sugars because of its huge fat content but obv itís not good for you, but simplistic understandings of diabetes = high sugars leads people to treat the markers not the disease and itís really unreasonable to expect laymen to really get how to properly treat complex metabolic syndromes

luckily these days we have pharmacological treatments that help tons and are ďeasyĒ as in you could change nothing about your lifestyle and still be far better off simply by taking drug

also other people just donít give a gently caress. other people will offer a diabetic a sugar sandwich and be like ďwell they can say no if they wantĒ, disregarding diabetes especially type 2 is probably associated with a hosed up relationship to food (like I have) and that iím like a drug addict when it comes to my self control, never mind when other people try to get you to eat more even when you say no. other people truly value their own happiness at feeding someone than the persons health. makes me furious and makes me wish I was a person who stood up for myself because iíll chow down on a cake someone made for me because Iím too nervous to say ďsorry iím a diabetic and I really shouldnítĒ fml


iím on a new one that makes my kidneys spill over excess blood glucose into the urine so I pee out calories. was 4kg lighter than I expected last time I weighed myself. and it makes me piss more hence drink more hence more full from water all the time

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mystes
May 31, 2006



Jonny 290 posted:

im 42 and like 87.2% of my entire existence is load-bearing coping mechanisms to cover up poo poo but the alternative is laying all that stuff bare and now i got fired bc im 'unstable' and none of my friends talk to me bc im 'sketchy' and a 'doomer'
Sorry Jonny ☹️

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