MonsieurChoc posted:

Some weirdo Jewish libertarian went on a rant about how the Palestinians are actually descended from the Samaritans and as such completely unrelated to the Jews who lived there in the first century.

Because I guess there was no mixing ever.

twoday posted:

Here is a hint:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMeu7BKE-nQ

mycomancy posted:

God drat Diogenes was such a shitbird.

twoday posted:

To answer all this we will need to go back to some ancient sources, which I will do tomorrow. But feel free to wildly speculate in the meantime.

Uranium posted:

Diogenes also once said, after leaving the privacy of his tub, that he wished he could also satiate his hunger by rubbing his belly.

quote:

When scolded for masturbating in public, he said "I wish it were as easy to banish hunger by rubbing my belly."

Fuzzy McDoom posted:

Jovian: Accidentally poisoned himself by inhaling fumes from a mysterious hole in the ground

treasured8elief posted:

Inspector Hound posted:

Aw, I can't remember the name of that place anymore but I remember climbing on those a long time ago. Or some just like it...

twoday posted:

are you the ghost of a monkey

AnEdgelord posted:

The steppe nomads fascinate me.

They would seem to be inelegant barbarians that could never stand up to an imperial civilization like Rome, Persia or China but due to a quirk of their culture, their expert horsemanship and continuous development of the bow and arrow they were able to annihilate the armies of large settle nations on a regular basis.

Plus when they did rule over the settled peoples they were incredibly tolerant of different religious faiths and minority ethnic groups provided they did not attempt to resist their rule.

Also they were definitely they greatest warriors of premodern society despite what nazis and weaboos say.

Fuzzy McDoom posted:

I used to keep a document where I listed all my favorite deaths of Roman emperors and I have no idea what happened to it but off the top of my head some good ones were:

Carus: Literally struck by lightning
Caracalla: Stabbed in the back by his bodyguard while taking a piss in the desert
Jovian: Accidentally poisoned himself by inhaling fumes from a mysterious hole in the ground
Constans II: Killed with a bucket

Hentai Jihadist posted:

ancient history owns, its all the same maniac human poo poo we've got today but its so far in the past I don't feel bad about it

Hentai Jihadist posted:

AFAIK Barbarian is just a word that pretty much means foreigner. The big nomads had real complex logistics and societies and it seems like the word was basically just PR that survives to this day.

It seems to be the same with a lot of barbarian kingdoms Rome bangs on about, they weren't usually much more primitive than Rome just poorer and smaller.

Captain_Maclaine posted:

The graffiti of Pompeii is one of my favorite examples of this, and one of the reasons that I'm convinced that if in some distant future a successor race of humans returns to the blasted planet to sort through our ruins after the long lost past, their first reaction is likely to be, "heh, dickbutt."


While yes "barbarian" translated directly as "foreigner" for both the Greeks and Romans, it necessarily came larded down with a ton of baggage due to the cultural chauvinism baked in to both those languages. Hell, the Greeks considered the Macedonians, who were part of the same cultural heritage, to be barely one step above living in mud holes and whaling on each other with clubs.

twoday posted:

Welcome to the C-SPAM Ancient History thread!

This thread was born out of a massive derail in the Epstein thread that lead to pages of discussion about the ancient Roman pantheon, the Bronze Age Collapse, the Minoans, and a bunch of other stuff. C-SPAM seems to have a lot to say about this, so now you can do that here. Feel free to argue about the identity of the Sea Peoples or whatever other niche you have wondered into and want to talk about.

The western definition of "ancient history" is not universally applicable to the cultures of the world, and this is certainly not going to be a thread limited to the "classical world" of Eurasia-Africa, so the definition of 'ancient' will vary accordingly per culture and place. I won't define that, I just want to note that discussions about Pre-Columbian American history, for instance, or other societies from the distant past are also welcome and encouraged here.

Feel free to post documentaries and podcasts and links to articles, or just engage in pleasant friendly debate about minutia that nobody else knows or cares about anymore. The Mayans were right and the world is ending, but we still don't know how they built the pyramids, so here's your last chance to figure it out!

twoday posted:

So, what kind of wax was this? What kind of letters? Where did the ship come from? How did the birds get there?

To answer all this we will need to go back to some ancient sources, which I will do tomorrow. But feel free to wildly speculate in the meantime.

Captain_Maclaine posted:

The graffiti of Pompeii is one of my favorite examples of this, and one of the reasons that I'm convinced that if in some distant future a successor race of humans returns to the blasted planet to sort through our ruins after the long lost past, their first reaction is likely to be, "heh, dickbutt."

Captain_Maclaine posted:

The graffiti of Pompeii is one of my favorite examples of this, and one of the reasons that I'm convinced that if in some distant future a successor race of humans returns to the blasted planet to sort through our ruins after the long lost past, their first reaction is likely to be, "heh, dickbutt."

Hentai Jihadist posted:

so i went on a brief googling tour of some chinese history and it turns out ancient chinese people were all gay cannibals

Dreddout posted:

"The ancient pre-interstellar american civilization appeared to worship this double sided anthropomorphic phallus as a god. They would even include him in unrelated media. The implication being that all things ultimately lead back to dickbutt"

Inspector Hound posted:

Aw, I can't remember the name of that place anymore but I remember climbing on those a long time ago. Or some just like it...

Real hurthling! posted:

the word barbarians, from greek barbaroi, is literally exactly the same kind of insult as if we called chinese people "ching chong" today.
the greeks felt that bar bar bar was what west asians sounded like

Real hurthling! posted:

the word barbarians, from greek barbaroi, is literally exactly the same kind of insult as if we called chinese people "ching chong" today.
the greeks felt that bar bar bar was what west asians sounded like

Shibby0709 posted:

This is Mỹ Sơn in Central Vietnam not far from Da Nang. It is one of the best preserved sites of the old Champa civilization that predated the Vietnamese in the area. I visited it a few years back. It's a beautiful place. The Americans bombed it during the Vietnam War.

Uranium posted:

Ancient history is pretty neat. An actress and sex worker eventually married a Byzantine emperor, saved his reign by subduing riots, rebuilt Constantinople, and was venerated as a saint: Theodora.

Dreddout posted:

"The ancient pre-interstellar american civilization appeared to worship this double sided anthropomorphic phallus as a god. They would even include him in unrelated media. The implication being that all things ultimately lead back to dickbutt"


sry to burst your bubble but the cannibal thing was likely the invention of later dynasties in order to demonize Dong Zhou