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TMMadman posted:I'm going to bitch about this hopefully one last time, but the fact that the shield isn't a one hit kill is loving absolute bullshit. Try playing hardcore? Especially the objective modes where people are compelled to push you disadvantageously. i.e. bomb plants
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DarkDobe posted:Try playing hardcore? No, it doesn't matter, it should be a one hit kill in regular core. There are attachments to put on guns that turn them into one hit kill guns and shield users are incredibly vulnerable anyway because it's impossible to keep up with people and the hitbox for it is fairly small anyway. If your crouched, someone can jump and shoot you in the head. People can slide past you and shoot you before you can turn. Explosions can be mitigated somewhat with EOD, but they are still incredibly dangerous. You flat out can't sprint while using it or you'll die Anyone who thinks the shield would be too powerful in regular core games as a one hit kill weapon has absolutely NOT used the shield for any length of time. My shield is currently level 31 and I have 73 kills with it and 718 deaths (of course, that doesn't count C4/rocket/other kills) and even if the shield was a one hit kill I would probably only have maybe 100-120 kills, at most, with it. TMMadman fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Nov 15, 2019 |
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Nov 15, 2019 03:45
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lol E: sound tells you what i listen to on repeat to get into the mood https://imgur.com/a/Me3wUAf
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This NVG assault trial is uh... Waaaay worse than the daytime one. Despite it being pitch black 3 times in a row a random enemy would 180 headshot me around the halfway point. Real fun. Daytime one took me two tries to nail but this night one just kicked my teeth in. TMMadman posted:No, it doesn't matter, it should be a one hit kill in regular core. Oh I agree wholeheartedly - but I moved to HC for that reason and it works well enough for shield murdering. I've since migrated on to AK's though unless I want to be particularly painful in objective modes.
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Nov 15, 2019 04:17
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How am I supposed to get these stupid shield turret kills?
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Nov 15, 2019 05:24
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Statutory Ape posted:lol I would love a mode that's just K98s, maybe the lever action. Pair it up with that crank thing where you always gotta be moving or you explode and hell yeah let's go
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Nov 15, 2019 06:05
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Capn Beeb posted:I would love a mode that's just K98s, maybe the lever action. Pair it up with that crank thing where you always gotta be moving or you explode and hell yeah let's go I would play the poo poo out of a K98 only mode. You can SORT of make it work in HC where its a one shot kill but better hope you don't miss... Pair with smokes and molotovs and a knife for maximum authenticity.
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DarkDobe posted:I would play the poo poo out of a K98 only mode. It's called Call of Duty 2 multiplayer.
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Nov 15, 2019 06:16
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the answer to all challenge woes is shoot house
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Nov 15, 2019 06:53
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Anyone got attachment tips for the 680? It’s a reality check going from the 725 to this thing
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Sandwolf posted:Anyone got attachment tips for the 680? It’s a reality check going from the 725 to this thing Yes, but I'm not at my computer. First gun I took to 50. Basically build it for ads range. I'll try to get my full "gently caress you" build tomorrow
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good gently caress leveling the AK compared to the m91 loving blows i feel like an literal raterd
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Holy poo poo, I got my gold 725 and decided to try the 680 out for the hell of it, and it is so much worse than the triple-nerfed gun that I can't even begin to wrap my head around what thought process was going on when they were weapon balancing this game internally.
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Zyklon B Zombie posted:Holy poo poo, I got my gold 725 and decided to try the 680 out for the hell of it, and it is so much worse than the triple-nerfed gun that I can't even begin to wrap my head around what thought process was going on when they were weapon balancing this game internally. lmao so i had never used the 725 until after the nerf and whether playing normal/real/hc i cant believe that gun used to be even better otoh, i think its just fine now. i do not think a race to the bottom is the best way to balance guns in a video game. especially true, imho, when you have a lot of people complaining about a wide variety of guns across different weapon types lol. thats literally loving git gud territory, you cant just pick the top weapon of each class that irritates you the most to die to. sorry but the PKM, M4, 725, et al cant ALL be ~ * ~* game breaking
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Nov 15, 2019 14:11
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TMMadman posted:I'm going to bitch about this hopefully one last time, but the fact that the shield isn't a one hit kill is loving absolute bullshit. TMMadman posted:No, it doesn't matter, it should be a one hit kill in regular core. Shields are dumb and you are dumb. Shoot guns in the gun shooting game.
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Nov 15, 2019 15:42
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Free for all should be my favorite but you just cant play it because its a total camp fest. I hope everyone who camps in free for all gets cancer of the eyes.
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Nov 15, 2019 15:54
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I for one am happy it’s easy to kill people who cheese with the shield.
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Nov 15, 2019 15:57
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the last match that i was getting 'owned' by shield-wielders in they lost (TDM) by like 15. i mean ya, lots of great triple kills when they flanked us but its a gimmick. the rage gamer in me cant stand dying to that poo poo but legit most of the irritating ways to die seem to come from teams that im beating, sooo
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Nov 15, 2019 16:04
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colachute posted:I for one am happy it’s easy to kill people who cheese with the shield. How exactly do you cheese with the shield? That's like the dumbest loving thing I've heard.
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Nov 15, 2019 16:17
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TMMadman posted:How exactly do you cheese with the shield? There’s like 17 pages in this very thread of people complaining about people abusing an exploit with the shield. I am okay with the shoe being on the other foot and those people that cheesed with the shield getting smoked easily.
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Nov 15, 2019 16:18
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Well they hosed over shield 100% now when you toss a lethal your shield just teleports onto your back instead of being held to the side like...well.. It does in first person. It was broken before but now it's just worthless. Only use for shield is maybe baiting out fire and drawing attention, not for combat. At least you can still block RPGs and cruise missiles with it.
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Nov 15, 2019 16:25
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colachute posted:There’s like 17 pages in this very thread of people complaining about people abusing an exploit with the shield. Ah yes, the firsy week exploit that was fixed so your argument is still loving stupid. I dare anyone who thinks the shield is overpowered to use it for a while and then get back to me.
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Nov 15, 2019 16:25
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TMMadman posted:Ah yes, the firsy week exploit that was fixed so your argument is still loving stupid. Why are you so angry
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Nov 15, 2019 16:27
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Golly it's almost like actual real life war fighters don't run around with riot shields lmao throwing knives at people
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Nov 15, 2019 16:36
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:Golly it's almost like actual real life war fighters don't run around with riot shields lmao throwing knives at people Golly, it's almost like this is a video game and not real life.
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:Golly it's almost like actual real life war fighters don't run around with riot shields lmao throwing knives at people *shoots 3 shots of an M4 then throws the mostly full magazine to the ground and reloads with a fresh mag* *Dead sprints through a live fire zone, slides twenty feet on the ground, shoots an rpg at an enemy ten feet away* *Captures an arbitrary point on a finite, magically enclosed zone before getting shot in the head* *reincarnates forty yards away* Ah yes, war. War never changes.
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Nov 15, 2019 16:47
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In a way, the squads camping in the same building for an entire match is actually quite realistic!
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Shields are silly - but they could serve a purpose if they were tuned a little better. Before, they were hyper cheesy and broken by the lack of any animation during throws, but still vulnerable. Now there is literally no animation - the shield just pops onto your back meaning you die the instant you press your 'throw' key before you can even throw the thing, so using them offensively is more or less impossible. Shield coverage itself is... not very good. Even staring at a person, the update rate for the shield user's character model means someone strafing around you can shoot your sides... or just jump and shoot your head. So they're only good at a distance, generally, and only good against one person at a time - anything more than a few degrees separation means one or the other can blast you. Remember, too, you need to be crouching to be covered, so you're going to be slower than everyone else. They block direct hits from explosives - but this has been confirmed as a glitch, even if they failed to patch it. Most of the lethal thrown explosive options murder you through the shield anyway - especially thermite, molotovs and semtex. That leaves us with what? Shields that uh... kind of sometimes block bullets, draw attention, and maybe serve as an edge case for scouting/peeking and distracting from your team mates. Running alongside a shield user is about the only viable function for the things. Some folks are happy with this I guess, but to me they feel like a gimmick that isn't even really useful except in edge cases. I'd like it if they fixed up at least the throw animation, since revamping the entire model/collision/orientation problem is probably too much trouble to be worthwhile. The only marginal use I get out of the shield now is gathering intel i.e. peeking around a corner or a window (probably getting shot anyhow) when I am trying to push an objective or defend against rushes - at which point the best I can do is hope my team listens to the callouts, or that I can get off a lucky throw/swap to sidearm. It's barely usable for defense, and pushes with it are a crapshoot more so than ever.
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So I have a problem, I cant decide which pink/purple skin to use on my stubby 34 for maximum Freud.
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:So I have a problem, I cant decide which pink/purple skin to use on my stubby 34 for maximum Freud. The hot pink Topo one I think.
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DarkDobe posted:The hot pink Topo one I think. That's what I'm leaning towards, simply because its unlock req makes it more prestigious, not that getting mounted kills with an LMG is particularly difficult.
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See DarkDobe gets it. Although, I believe the throwing glitch only affected knives because I would get shot using C4 before the patch. As far as I can tell, it just moves your shield slightly when you throw tactical grenades because I never get shot tossing them even if I'm staring at the guy. Honestly, if they gave me one hit melee kills and made some kind of compromise for throwing lethals, I would be pretty happy with the shield as it currently stands.
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Nov 15, 2019 17:24
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Shields are for protection. They are not weapons and should not be OHK.
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Nov 15, 2019 17:27
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The purpose of the shield is to be a second weapon with overkill and just leave it on your back to block bullets.
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Beastie posted:Shields are for protection. They are not weapons and should not be OHK. I agree that shields are for protection, but I should be able to protect myself by smashing your face in if you're dumb enough to let me get within a few feet of you. It's a video game and not real life.
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colachute posted:Why are you so angry he has a long history of shield trauma ITT E: frankly the shield whining (whether for or against, idgaf) is the best part about it. i wish the game tracked your overall deaths by what weapon so we could expose the ppl spending 70% of their whining on .5% of their deaths fyi, we'd all die less in this game if we checked both ways before cross the street rather than touch shields one way or another
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colachute posted:Why are you so angry 
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Statutory Ape posted:he has a long history of shield trauma ITT It does track by weapon. I have somewhere around 75-80 kills with the shield and like 800 deaths. My shield is currently at level 31 and my highest actual weapon is 30 and my RPG is 28. I primarily play objective games with the shield, so I don't really care about deaths and am mostly just happy to cap points and gum up the works. It's just frustrating to me that for as fun as I find it to run around with the shield that the best tactic for someone else to deal with the shield is to just run straight at it.
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Anyone else think C4 blast radius is maybe too big? On shoot house in HQ mode a team I was on was getting destroyed by a C4 throwing team. Was wild. I got like 60 kills but it wasn’t enough. Also once you get the add ons to make the MP5 a hip fire machine you do really shred through people.
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