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The entire industry is filled with creeps, basically.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2019 07:28 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 05:49 |
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They're called whisper networks. Groups of people who quietly warn each other about things without working to upset the actual organization.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2019 09:25 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:This is a hinky way of describing "Describing severe domestic partner abuse, after which the ex-partner, who already had substantial mental health issues, committed suicide." If anything caused it all of this happening at once + him getting fired would be enough, especially if he was in a bad spot mentally to begin with. It's not really any one person's fault, but a cascade of issues that fed into themselves until the only way he felt he could escape it was death. Like, most of the people here are depressed and have thought about this, poo poo can spiral real quick if it hits fast enough. like it'd go "i can't make music anymore > my life is meaningless without music > my life is meaningless" It's also pretty likely that his abuse also stemmed (at least partly) from his depression. Lots of times people tend to hyperfocus on things they have control over when they're despondent, and sometimes people made the horrible choice of doing that to another person, or doing it to a relationship, which is both unhealthy and dangerous. If anything this just points to a need within the industry for actual oversight. A union would have the ability to handle situations like these, I think, and the US absolutely needs better mental health care.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2019 23:15 |
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a new app called whispr where you can post anonymously about industry figures and tag them based on sex crimes
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2019 02:43 |
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I mean, you don't really feel a need to put out a statement when you've decided to kill yourself, lets be real here.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2019 03:24 |
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StrixNebulosa posted:He picked the single most destructive way to hurt his victims. It's perfect revenge for them daring to go public with what they suffered. I can guarantee you he wasn't thinking about them, or probably anyone else. The path of the destructive thoughts that leads to suicides almost always travels down the path of self-immolation before hitting resignation and giving in. Acting like he's some evil puppetmaster cartoon character throwing himself off a bridge in order to spite the heroes is childish dehumanization. He was a mentally unwell dude with broken, unhealthy views on what relationships are. Captain Oblivious posted:This is what you're not getting man. It literally always like this. Vic, Soule, people know they're abusers of some stripe every single time and it gets swept under the rug. Sometimes for decades! Just look at how it was an open secret with Vic. Power protects power, and power ESPECIALLY protects male power. A lot of what leads to poo poo like this is corporate culture, and the bystander effect. People feel uncomfortable or are worried about their own position being threatened, so they don't say anything, even if they recognize what's happening. The Soule stuff is an example. I don't know what can be done about it other than continuing to speak up, and hopefully the #metoo gaming stuff will lead to people being more willing to do so, especially if they see it happening.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2019 04:03 |
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the two sides of emotional intelligence, in tweet form.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2019 07:21 |
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is she saying that zach's apology thing was fake or insincere? or is this just about his friend trying to cover for him
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2019 22:29 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Furthermore, she's said in one of her linked essays that apparently he's been telling other people about how much he regrets what he did to his wife, and how much he's changing in therapy ... but he's never made the effort to apologize to her directly. It brings up an interesting quesiton of when / if you apologize if you've done something like that, or have that in your past; you don't have any real idea of the headspace of the person you'd be apologizing to, and the last thing you want to do is revisit a toxic relationship. I heard that a good solution to this is to mail them a letter or send an email apology and they can read it if / when they want to but that seems insincere by itself e: not that i'm trying to defend jick here but I kinda understand his reasoning for not talking to her directly Grapplejack fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Sep 7, 2019 |
# ¿ Sep 7, 2019 01:30 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:You're imputing that reasoning to him, though. All his victim knows is that he ignored her up until the time he couldn't pretend nothing had happened any more. That's true, I was making guesses at things I couldn't know. Yardbomb posted:This sounds really weird and lovely. rkajdi is weird and lovely, yes. He's in the moviebob territory of not wanting poors to vote because they're too dumb to understand anything
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2019 02:24 |
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I'm surprised it's just been tiny indie devs so far, honestly. I can think of a lot of AA people who are absolute scumbags that i'm sure have lots of this poo poo waiting in the wings.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2019 01:16 |
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KOL UPDATE: Jick continues radio silence, most of the community that's left has started to collapse. Radio KOL is ending, the sl_ascend program (used to help automate ascensions) has lost all of its coders, lots of old community members are leaving. KOL (the webgame) might not survive this year.
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2019 04:09 |
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Kai Tave posted:Is that all a result of his abuses coming to light or was it happening already and the abuses just pushed it over the tipping point? The latter. KOL has been on life support for like, years now. Asym doesn't care about the browser game and won't put the effort needed into it to bring it up to 2019 quality (or, like, 2012 quality, who are we kidding). This happening was just enough to get people to go "well this game has zero attention paid to it and also jick sucks so why even bother anymore"
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2019 04:45 |
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What would her name be? Rich auntie Pennybags? Are they related? Is it his wife??
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2019 21:13 |
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I think it's his niece? Ah, Sandy Pennybags.
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2019 21:18 |
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https://twitter.com/prettydarke/status/1171931679834787840 I can't believe Jick turned out to be such a piece of poo poo
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2019 03:28 |
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Cardiovorax posted:Dunno what Jdate is, but I consider it a standing in general. If you're into your faith (or lack of it) enough to put it into your dating profile or wherever, then you're probably too into it to be tolerable for me to be around for extended amounts of time. Jdate is a Jewish dating site.
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# ¿ Sep 13, 2019 17:31 |
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KOL UPDATE: https://twitter.com/prettydarke/status/1173691508786024448 Turns out I was wrong and Jick actually hasn't grown at all
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2019 23:30 |
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KOL UPDATE: https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-09-23-games-professor-accuses-kingdom-of-loathing-designer-of-abuse quote:In a statement provided to GamesIndustry.biz, Johnson denied several of the accusations:
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2019 19:12 |
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KOL UPDATE: http://forums.kingdomofloathing.com/vb/showthread.php?t=240428 In classic jick tradition it's weaselly and he mostly just tries to pay to make the problem go away It's a decent apology and I would have accepted it if the gameindustry article didn't come out like, less than a week ago. The community is still largely unhappy with it. E: I should also point out that the IOTM this month is incredibly overpowered to further tempt people back in Grapplejack fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Oct 4, 2019 |
# ¿ Oct 4, 2019 20:03 |
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quote:The forums are not my domain, but I wanted to add some clarity to the situation:
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2019 04:42 |
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Yeah this post is extremely obviously Jick writing it and it's really crafty in how it tries to frame everything, it's super hosed up If anything asym staff needs to get jick to gently caress off for a few months, he literally can't stop making everything worse because he's so averse to accepting any blame for anything.
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2019 06:37 |
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Endorph posted:gay person: i think this thing portrays gay people kinda badly but i get why some people like it This is exactly how the thread ended up going lmao
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2019 10:27 |
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Nairo has completely nuked his online presence
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2020 08:41 |
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Someone should probably check on Nairo, I'm getting big "I'm just going to kill myself" vibes from his recent actions
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2020 18:18 |
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EVO is dead now https://twitter.com/NetherRealm/status/1278831639833931776 https://twitter.com/CapcomFighters/status/1278834483995660288
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2020 01:30 |
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https://twitter.com/JisuArtist/status/1278843558401675264 the entire community is burning to ashes
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2020 01:43 |
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https://twitter.com/BNEesports/status/1278853626748796929 https://twitter.com/ManeSix/status/1278847031340130305 ok so what I said before was semi in jest but evo is genuinely dead now. They now have no games and no sponsors
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2020 02:02 |
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They also use their positions in communities as a way to passively enforce these things too. Sky was the gatekeeper for Smash, and if you loved that community you were more willing to put up with him.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2020 09:06 |
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I think it's permissable if it's a direct quote, but I'm not a mod.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2020 16:50 |
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I wonder if Vivendi is still considering that hostile takeover because they sure as poo poo could get it now
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2020 08:58 |
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It looks like the original accusation is fake but there's a bunch of actual poo poo floating out now that makes him look like a creep, the redbard retweets especially
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2021 04:15 |
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I'm hearing poo poo about gpm being involved, which if he is lol gpm is a genuine scumbag who got kicked out of vinesauce for stealing charity money and regularly streams with groomers Both mandalore and shammy appear to have undone their retweets and issued an apology, which is weird. They were both early rters https://twitter.com/Lord_Mandalore/status/1378221233536446465?s=20 https://twitter.com/ShammyTV/status/1378228319120986117?s=20 This whole fiasco is loving bizarre
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2021 15:30 |
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Honestly I'm just surprised that Vinny fucks, I assumed he was volcelIbram Gaunt posted:Gotta love when some trolls on /v/ fabricating the original accusation basically poisoned the waters for any other statement. I don't think /v/ had anything to do with it tbh. There's some internet detectiving to try to guess who it was that tossed out the original accusation but like, that's about it. The mandalore / shammy thing is probably the weirdest part of all of this tbh since they have like, no connection to vinesauce or that sphere at all
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2021 06:17 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 05:49 |
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It's largely because the stuff with vinny and GPM's immediate support led to all the poo poo that GPM had been covering up exploding out (my understanding is that he would regularly stream with and had mods who were known predators) so even if the stuff with vinny ends up not being true at all at least something good came of all this
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2021 04:55 |