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Sanya Juutilainen posted:A reminder that Diablo 2 released in June 2000. Then Diablo 3 released in May 2012 (and was considered to be pretty late), around the time of SC Kickstarter. There's been an silent countdown for years now, that started the instant CR opened his mouth about Star Citizen. The countdown is ticking to a foregone conclusion: either the failure of the project, or him being kicked off so they can poo poo something out. The project will never amount to anything as long as he's attached, so we'll see lots more timelines with games coming out, sequels, etc. while this shitshow rumbles on. This was always going to be another Freelancer situation, with the exception that this time, without a publisher, we might get nothing at all.
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Sanya Juutilainen posted:A reminder that Diablo 2 released in June 2000. Then Diablo 3 released in May 2012 (and was considered to be pretty late), around the time of SC Kickstarter. edit: https://v.redd.it/d8uh4h423hj61/DASH_480.mp4 Dwesa fucked around with this message at 10:10 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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Scruffpuff posted:There's been an silent countdown for years now, that started the instant CR opened his mouth about Star Citizen. The countdown is ticking to a foregone conclusion: either the failure of the project, or him being kicked off so they can poo poo something out. The project will never amount to anything as long as he's attached, so we'll see lots more timelines with games coming out, sequels, etc. while this shitshow rumbles on. This was always going to be another Freelancer situation, with the exception that this time, without a publisher, we might get nothing at all. I have to disagree, I think eventually they will run out of money and Chris will announce that SC is released and the Beta 15.5 will be renamed to SC Final 1.0. This will only happen after all the external studios are closed down, and the entirety of CIG is just a skeleton crew doing what is necessary to keep the PU alive. SQ42 never comes out. Then he rides into the sunset knowing he saved PC gaming.
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It's pretty mind boggling to me that they went with unique names (but also only unique across each ship type?), and naming it on a loving website, instead of just adding "string name;" on a ship and put input box on one of many terminals in game. But I'm not looking at it from a whale tender perspectiveSanya Juutilainen posted:A reminder that Diablo 2 released in June 2000. Then Diablo 3 released in May 2012 (and was considered to be pretty late), around the time of SC Kickstarter. Is this Diablo 2 remaster just re-rendering videos and making higher res textures, or do they say they will do more and then just change the textures and that is all? I mean like warcraft
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commando in tophat posted:It's pretty mind boggling to me that they went with unique names (but also only unique across each ship type?), and naming it on a loving website, instead of just adding "string name;" on a ship and put input box on one of many terminals in game. But I'm not looking at it from a whale tender perspective From what I've seen and read, the game will be redone to higher assets, but CGs will be completely made anew. EDIT: Finally got time to find the pretty extensive summary: https://www.pcgamer.com/diablo-2-resurrected-release-date-alpha-changes/ Sanya Juutilainen fucked around with this message at 11:45 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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Feb 25, 2021 11:01
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commando in tophat posted:It's pretty mind boggling to me that they went with unique names (but also only unique across each ship type?), and naming it on a loving website, instead of just adding "string name;" on a ship and put input box on one of many terminals in game. But I'm not looking at it from a whale tender perspective My guess is that Turbulent is grabbing functionality as much as they can in the mad machine that is Star Citizen development. And since they are smart enough to stay far away from dreams.txt features they are the people who can 'get stuff done'. None of that stuff is related to a spaceship game anymore but that's not really relevant anymore, you're just naming your digital pet who happens to be a spaceship.
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Feb 25, 2021 11:09
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Jonny Shiloh posted:Summon Blobers I guess? Joe Blobers posted:Except it is not and will never be. It is like saying EVE is better than ED and NMS because released 10 years before.
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Feb 25, 2021 11:47
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Isn't reclaiming the thing you do if, for example, you die while your ship is out in space or parked somewhere and you want it available to spawn at whatever dock you woke up in? If so, love having to log in to a website to name my ship every time I clip through the ground and fall into the center of the planet.
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Feb 25, 2021 12:20
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squirrelzipper posted:This is so loving nuts tho, like I just bought a new snowboard, it’s nice, carbon fibre inserts, sintered base, bamboo, but it was $560 and I don’t really need it. Like $700, for a picture of a promise. JFC. I collect Warhammer and even to my fiscally broken brain this is madness.
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Feb 25, 2021 12:44
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IshmaelZarkov posted:I collect Warhammer and even to my fiscally broken brain this is madness. I'm very sorry. Warhams is also terminal. Sometimes even in death you still serve (and pay)
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Feb 25, 2021 13:29
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IshmaelZarkov posted:I collect Warhammer and even to my fiscally broken brain this is madness. I collect anime figures and ditto. At least I have something physical that's independent on Crobbers's servers.
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Feb 25, 2021 13:29
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Feb 25, 2021 13:53
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There was an ED livestream a few years ago with a community manager having his ship buzzed/ganked by players, one of the player ships that kept flying slowly past had the name Derek Smart Was Right on the side.
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Feb 25, 2021 14:01
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Some drive-by Star Citizen shitposting
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Feb 25, 2021 14:08
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BigglesSWE posted:Whatever can be salvaged is really besides the point. The point being: they kickstarted the game eons ago and promised pretty much anything to anyone. The only thing that keeps this house of jpg.‘s from falling apart is the perpetual development cycle. If the reason you pledged 6 years ago still isn’t nowhere to be seen, don’t worry! The game is in development, they’ll get there! Hah! Godwin law, you loose, loser! Whatever.
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Feb 25, 2021 14:37
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dieselfruit posted:I'm going to call my space ship The Crobbler and none of you can stop me Someone please try Mae Demming.
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Feb 25, 2021 14:55
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How the fuckity gently caress can naming a ship be something that they have to implement per ship? Surely there's some sort of base structure in the code ('Spaceship') that all the ships extend/implement/whatever (I don't know a drat thing about how C/C++ works) and you would stick the implementation of "this thing has a visible name" on there? The implications of how their code is structured is honestly infuriating.
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Feb 25, 2021 15:01
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Fidelitious posted:How the fuckity gently caress can naming a ship be something that they have to implement per ship? Optimist in me says that maybe they just created geometry where ship name goes and whatnow for few ships, but experience says that everything is hosed and there is no inheritance or modularity, because it literally should be slapping a string on your spaceship class
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Feb 25, 2021 15:19
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:People who care about uniqueness want ship names that stand out, and they don't need an enforced unique name for that. The players who don't care about standing out just want to name their ship Millennium Falcon, and you arn't winning any points from them by not letting them do that. Yus. Not sure I see how unique naming, even per ship type, is going to help anybody. It's like picking out a username somewhere. It's going to be Serenity77823 or some nonsense. Wondering also why this feature isn't just "available" and instead needs to be rolled out on a per-ship basis. I wonder if each ship basically has its own database table and none of them share anything, or if we're seeing some light into the CIG chaos and these select ships happen to share enough code and database values that making this adjustment will affect this select group. And I wonder if this was the group with the most common shares architecture between them. The spaghetti code must be a sight to behold. Imagine hundreds of Jr devs with almost no oversight and no senior developers to help them making this kind of game. 
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BigglesSWE posted:The “in stock” always makes me laugh. Database smegma. At this point, I think their database is probably trashed just as much as or more than their code base, making all these connecting pieces even harder to do when you need to change hundreds of tables and pieces of code just to enable "name my ship".
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Feb 25, 2021 15:29
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The name plate is actually a default room object with zero breadth. It still monitors how much argon in it.
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Last King posted:speaking of ridiculous... Don't forget, just because you pledge for a ship, doesn't mean it will be available in the Persistent Universe! That's a separate stretch goal, PER SHIP!
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akkristor posted:Don't forget, just because you pledge for a ship, doesn't mean it will be available in the Persistent Universe! That's a separate stretch goal, PER SHIP! According to their TOS the pledge is for the development of the game(s) and the ship jpeg is just a nicety thrown in by Chris They could at any moment bin everyone’s current and future jpegs and dust their hands off Not sure it would hold up in court but that’s what their TOS says ( as expertly edited in secret multiple times)
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MedicineHut posted:Someone please try Mae Demming. The Tickler in Black is decloaking off the starboard side!
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alf_pogs posted:time to spend another day in Squadron 420, doing, uh, i can't remember but it was v chill Squadron 80085 has boobs in it 
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squirrelzipper posted:This is so loving nuts tho, like I just bought a new snowboard, it’s nice, carbon fibre inserts, sintered base, bamboo, but it was $560 and I don’t really need it. Like $700, for a picture of a promise. JFC. you are a man of the earth/mud. so you care for earthly goods. citizens are people of the skies, like more better. but because i am also a mudman here is a free jpeg: 
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Fidelitious posted:How the fuckity gently caress can naming a ship be something that they have to implement per ship? I just assume every ship is actually it's own struct and that they implement features separately for each ship. The fact they cannot squash known bugs for months / years at a time tends to back up that view as well IMO It is definitely the most pessimistic option, and no doubt they had competent coders at the start, but it has been in dev so long, with such turnover, that it is quite feasible their codebase is utterly rife with duplication of effort like that. Also it makes me feel better about my own lovely coding skills lol
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V1.0 Naming does not support much of the alien language that CIG has developed posted:Owners of alien ships and fans of alien languages might be considering using Romanised Xi'an or Banu to name their ships, particularly as it's a way to get a unique name that other people are unlikely to have taken. However, it sounds like the limits on ship names in V1.0 will not support several of the characters common in the romanised versions of Banu and Xi'an.
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Mirificus posted:From this, we can already tell that Xi'an pitch markings are not supported, as they require the period, apostrophe and quote marks. Thanks Britton, now get back to making up space Chinese words please.
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So, is V1.0 the same as Tier 1? Or can we get a T1 build of V1.0? Will this be on the roadmap?
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I dunno the roadmap guy prolly only had a two month contract. Every year the CI's versioning system gets more complex. Aplha 3.12 V1 tier0 ship naming (early) investigation Where every other company goes to great length to keep their versions simple. V.bad coder here I would have thought having some text on the side of the ship was low hanging fruit
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Everyone at CIG is avoiding the elephant in the room that is actually building the foundation of the MMO game they promised so you have these ever more peripheral non-game things being worked.
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Chris has to be getting paid a poo poo load of money. Imagine being chained to a job you can't leave, where you have been failing so much there is a dedicated forum of people laughing at you ...for a decade. You are given every resource but just cant even get a mess hall to work in your space opera. Work can be hard and stressful, but knowning there are untold thousands gathered to see you gently caress up, they have every confidence you will gently caress up. Your ongoing failure has become a comical internet mem. I would find that rough, I'm sure there is an amount you could pay me to do it Then again CR has always been comfortably detached from reaility, he is just happy driving a porche.
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yeah the several million dollars a year would make up for a dozen or so posters on a dead comedy forum making dumb jokes about my hairline or whatever
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Squadron 54 out yet?
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Sarsapariller posted:I don't know why this surprises you. Here's how the pricing model works: No loving way- are you speculating or is that actually how those ships are broken down?
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Kellanved posted:Squadron 54 out yet? Out of what?
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I don't even remember what the correct squadron number is anymore
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Strangler 42 posted:The Tickler in Black is decloaking off the starboard side! Derek's Revenge The Final Pledge Endlessly Turbulent Don't Tell Sandi Uncrashable II Ship Name Tier 0 Absolved
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DigitalPenny posted:Chris has to be getting paid a poo poo load of money. Yes that’s basically the entire crux of my argument with him and CIG at large From day -360 they have taken every dime available and splurged on everything imaginable except the one thing they should be using it for .... making a game I say day -360 because I recall Chris himself said he was talking back-pay because of all the time he spent pre-Kickstarter coming up with the idea and “working on it” So he back paid himself a salary for a year or two That was the first thing he did when the money really started piling up Does that not ring anyone’s alarm bells at all ? If Chris was truly the developer genius he claims to be , he would take a relatively comfortable salary and make sure the rest goes towards his workers I know for instance in 2020 the entire executive team at the company I work for cut their salaries by 50%. And the ceo cut his by 100% Can you imagine Chris giving money BACK ? Hahaha The person that tears apart the yearly filings can probably estimate what Chris pays himself. But I imagine it’s between 2-3 million + the valuation of his shares in the various holdings. For comparison that’s probably a million more than the ceo of a publicly held - 1 billion dollar valued company would take home Blue On Blue fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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