Bedshaped posted:

last time i checked in they were working their butts off to release a sq42 trailer or something, did that ever happen?

DigitalPenny posted:

That was a tier 0 plan and was not delivered
The tier 1 plan was a year long roadmap to a roadmap also not delivered
Tier 2 was a roadmap that showed nothing
Tier 3 was a annoucement of a monthly show for which their was one episode
The final god tier was a snarky post for CR to stop asking and his magnum opus will be done when it's done

trucutru posted:

Get ready to eat poo poo, fudsters, it's time for the Roadmap Roundup, presented by that dude from INN who now works at CI-G

GOD The cheapest version of one of the oldest ships has passed its final review! Holy poo poo! All the proud owners of the worst Connie , the ship used to pad all packages, are lubricating their PrtSc key in anticipation.

And the very first T1, not T0, but t1, T1, T-ONE feature is currently under review. Of course CI-G did the responsible thing and removed it from the schedule until that T is worth the goddamn 1.

Finally, after weeks (maybe months) of work, the engineers at the core gameplay team managed to change the name of a deliverable because it won't deliver half of what it was supposed to deliver. That's called T.R.A.N.S.P.A.R.E.N.C.Y. you asses, and it what makes CI-G the best company around.

Look at all that loving progress!!! I fully expect ladders T1, with a never-seen-before level of fidelity to be here at the latest in the middle of 2022 and you can quote the poo poo out of this post.

Colostomy Bag posted:

Looks like some evocati testing is coming soon with the new station. I feel sorry for the servers.

Popete posted:

That letter implies there is going to be another in game "event" in which you have to run supplies within the only system in the game. It's also just as likely that there is no event coming and this is just another lore dump that has no bearing on anything happening in the game.

Zaphod42 posted:

Seriously, if EA did half the things CIG are doing people would be posting pictures on twitter of breaking their FIFA discs in protest. People would burn the EA lawn.

But somehow CIG has this core fanbase that are too deep in the cult to see it.

Abongination posted:

What's with people using CI-G or whatever instead of CIG in this thread?

Noticed a few people doing it

Abongination posted:

What's with people using CI-G or whatever instead of CIG in this thread?

Noticed a few people doing it

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

Funny part is, most of those Taurus owners have to be mad about that. Don’t they currently get the better Andromeda (which still sucks last I heard) as a replacement?

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

CIG has a series of shell corporations and at one point they changed from "Cloud Imperium Games" to just "Cloud Imperium", dropping the "Game" and the irony was too good to pass up.

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In the early days we had nothing but a short video and lot's of excited talk, then we got a hangar and a couple of ships to climb into, then Arena Commander. We could dream, we could theory-craft and engage in the creative process yet the ships we get now regularly into the game are far superior to those flat textured basic models we had in our hangars. We still can indulge in the theory-crafting but because we have a fixed set of assets now it's easy to fall into the trap of lowering your horizon to just what you see because let's face it that's all that everyone else seems to be responding to and a lot of them respond negatively to the dreams of others. This is why people like listening to Tony Zurovec an Evo Herzeg, they remind us of what the grand vision always was and how the plan is far grander than the casual observer can comprehend.

We have planets and moons, but we have only one system and it's very earth-like right now, we have minimal flora and it is also very earth-like - we know there's more to come. When the clouds go in, there are those who will go nuts about them and we just know that Chris will not settle for 'good enough'. We don't have a skybox the way other games do. Chris knows that players will boil like frogs in the new and jaw-dropping, they get used to it all pretty quickly so he is not going to give it all away, the best is being kept under wraps. We get teasers, Chris loves to see people pick apart clues that he gives and theory-craft.

There are features coming in Squadron 42 that players have not experienced in quite the same way in any other game, but a lot of those features were only discussed and partially showcased in the very early days - it's easy to forget - but they are still coming. What they are doing with the AI will not only make the game more interesting to just watch and hang around with them when events happen you'll feel it, really feel it, because you feel a connection to those characters and places in a way most games don't really try to achieve.

In Mass Effect where they actually did pay most attention to player character relationships when the Normandy gets destroyed you don't really have any feeling about it, but it won't be like that in Squadron 42. When Chris talks about the new technology that made him want to return to gaming most assume he's just talking about graphics and level of detail, he's not, that is not his main concern - his main concern is to viscerally involve us in the world he is creating. He wants you to have a 'Saving Private Ryan ' experience, he plans to gut-punch the players the way Game of Thrones did. Why is he spending time on realistic looking fire in the game, and firefighting? It's not for the eye candy graphics or the observable realism of game mechanics, it's for the story telling.

If you ever get the chance to talk to Chris Roberts or any of the senior team ask them.. How will it feel compared to other games.. you'll see these seasoned gamers and very experienced developers suddenly get all excited!

Go back and watch a few of the old presentations to remind yourself how much bigger it was always planned to be than what we have today. The Stanton System as it is now is completely impersonal, it doesn't represent the final vision at all - yet.

One of my favourite features to look forward to is the look dev. I'm fascinating to see what it feels like to be in VR in an environment where the 'actors' don't stare past you into void space if you aren't standing in exactly the right position, also to see the NPC's actually looking at things as though they were noticing them or studying them. To see it written down or even shown in tech demos in video it doesn't seem much, but when it happens in the game you'll realise, you'll never look at NPC's in games quite the same way ever again.

Mirificus posted:

Sarsapariller posted:

Citizens are so far behind the times that even bad games pretty much universally have the NPC interaction features that they are dreaming of CIG some-day implementing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0ighFX5A_E

marumaru posted:

the only thing 2077 has going for it in comparison to SC is that 2077's NPCs can walk around

Mirificus posted:

Zaphod42 posted:

No? 2077 is a real game and runs and has some style and originality in its design. It was rushed and its bugs really hold it back, but there's a good story and a decent game in there. Like NMS, it'll probably get redeemed a few years after release through long term support.

SC is a scam.

Zaphod42 posted:

No? 2077 is a real game and runs and has some style and originality in its design. It was rushed and its bugs really hold it back, but there's a good story and a decent game in there. Like NMS, it'll probably get redeemed a few years after release through long term support.

SC is a scam.

https://old.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kbk4ap/the_ai_of_cyberpunk_2077_an_indepth_look_at_the posted:

Now let's compare these statements to what is in the game at launch:

No NPC Day/Night cycle. NPCs spawn and despawn outside of the player's view.

If an NPC is doing an action, they will do that action forever until the player moves.

NPCs that are not story/side quest related have one dialog reply.https://old.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkg...utm_term=kbk4ap

If one NPC is assaulted, every other NPC in a large circle around the player will crouch to the floor in the same animation, even if they did not see the original assault.

NPCs in a car will follow a specific route. If the route is even slightly interupted, for example by your car, they will cease to move forever until you remove the obstruction.

NPCs in a car will not attempt to move or exit their vehicle if you assault them with bullets/another vehicle.

NPCs will not acknowledge the player if they run the player over with their car.

NPCs will not attempt to steal their vehicle back if you steal it from them.

NPCs will not attack you or defend themselves in any way or form, even if engaged upon with just fists.

Police spawn around the player's vision when the player is wanted, forever, until they attempt to hide or drive away.

Police to not attempt to question, warn, or arrest the player for even the smallest crime commited, for example if you bump into them or accidently enter a private area.

Police are incapable of driving cars and chasing the player if they drive away.

Police will not attack hostile targets like Gangs if they are not already doing so in an activity.

Police will know if the player has attacked an NPC in the middle of the badlands and spawn next to the player, without vehicles.

NPCs will rarely thank or acknowledge the player if they are helped by the player.

Scripted NPCs that have dialog will say their dialog then proceed to stand there forever. They will also repeat the same dialog if the player leaves the area and visits again later.

Lammasu posted:

I'm watching the Xbox Games Showcase Extended and it's both funny and Sad how far behind SC is. I mean you have tiny studios and Eurojank studios light years ahead of Chris Roberts in terms of motion capture.

Rotten Red Rod posted:

I assure you that SC's Xbox 360-era graphics are very impressive. Youtube comments can't be wrong!

Lammasu posted:

It's not just graphics. They Senua actress has been practicing stage fighting for the last two years, who remember was the office video editor. SC can barely handle them walking.

Play posted:

Yeah the CP2077 NPCs are not strong at all and yet somehow they look like the work of Michelangelo compared to SC

marumaru posted:

walking/sitting down are complicated features ok

marumaru posted:

meant to say 2077's NPCs
they're not very interactive at all. CDPR promised tons of stuff for their NPCs (just like a certain other developer):

Mirificus posted:

quote:

This is why people like listening to Tony Zurovec an Evo Herzeg, they remind us of what the grand vision always was and how the plan is far grander than the casual observer can comprehend.

dejapes posted:

Falling for the "Grand Vision" seems to be why a lot of kickstarter scams gain traction. You'd think that after over a decade of kickstarter projects, consumers would have caught on that it's not the big and elaborate ideas that make games, but rather focus, competence, and a realistic assessment of one's own abilities and resources.

Unfortunately, SC is still raking in money and none of the people in the project have faced any kind of accountability for it. It's teaching the wrong lessons, and I'm sure a number of scam mmo kickstarters have at least drawn some inspiration from its example.

Scruffpuff posted:

Oh there's a whole new wave of them now, and they've come out swinging, with lawyers ready to hand out defamation lawsuits against people who dare question the project. The lawyers are on staff before they even design the game, I wonder why that would be?

Chris has paved the way for a new kind of PC gaming - just not the kind his backers wanted or expected.

Colostomy Bag posted:

I also like the sign for "Robert Space Industries" that the convention hall flubbed.

akkristor posted:

Like that one scam MMO that staffed it's discord with 13 year olds and promised payment in the form of game keys and steam cards.

Dreamworld I think.

Scruffpuff posted:

There's also near a dozen that are taking SC's fake land claims to its logical limit, and creating either real or fake planets and selling parcels. Which will be a great investment because