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Ralph Crammed In posted:That's what always gets me about stuff like this. Sure, some people lie for a variety of reasons, but not everyone would lie. There's got to be something going on, I don't think everyone would just make stuff up. Also skeptics go "hmm yes probably just an owl, these simple country people were fooled" but if you live in the holler your whole life you know what a goddamned owl looks like and what it doesn't look like. That seems to be a major fallacy in theorizing about cases like this, which is when academics or whatever assume that the people are just as unfamiliar with wildlife as they are. If you get a partial glimpse of an object your brain will often automatically fill in all the missing details and totally bullshit you, but there's just now way of telling whether your brain invented some of the details you 'remember' unless you go back and examine the object more closely. The kicker is, if you can't examine the object again and you don't get additional information that proves that your first impression was wrong then it often won't even occur to you that you might have been mistaken. There's been cases where people swear they saw a lion wandering around town but when the cops cornered the animal it turned out to be a large dog or a horse with a blanket over it, people calling in a UFO report which turns out to be the moon, etc etc.. In each of those cases the witnesses were really, really, really familiar with what a dog or a horse or the moon looks like but their brain still tricked them to the point that they were adamant that they saw something weird. And like you said, they weren't lying. They had no reason to lie. But they were still wrong. It's also super easy for people to mistake the size of objects at a distance, so there's been a bunch of 'black panther' sightings which have turned out to be just a regular housecat. Once again, the people who called in these reports are super familiar with housecats and had no reason to lie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB7jSZuRgVQ There's also been a whole bunch of psychological studies that show that eyewitness accounts are often wildly different from the actual events, all of which is why anecdotal evidence is never accepted as definitive proof for cryptozoological creatures. Of course there's also been a bunch of times where people have spotted a bizarre animal on the loose in their area and it turned out to be real: Prowling tiger shot in Atlanta Wallaby filmed in Dorset woman's garden Etc etc ..
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Ralph Crammed In posted:I'm not saying there is a parade of aliens wandering around America's heartland, but there was some freaky stuff report that was never really taken that seriously by anyone other than the fringe. I'm a gigantic skeptic and James Randi is my hero but I fuckin' love cryptozoology (I've bought a ton of books and cryptozoology journals) and I even did my thesis on the disconnect between proper science and parapsychology way back when I did my degree. I grew up in the 70s and 80s when all we had were the Leonard Nimoy "In Search Of" TV show and the Fortean Times magazine so I got to see all the crazy conspiracy theories spread like wildfire when the internet became a thing, then the History Channel started pumping out all these bullshit shows about ancient aliens and ghost hunting and bigfoot hunting and the entire field became a laughing stock all around the world. Pvt.Scott posted:I’m cool with people investigating cryptids and supernatural stuff. There's a bunch of Actual Scientists who track down reports of lazarus taxa (species that were supposed to have disappeared but then suddenly turned up again) and there's lots of examples of creatures that have been shown to be extant after they've been listed as extinct for decades or even for more than a century. The coelacanth is the most obvious example but there's hundreds more, and there's some good books on the subject if anyone is interested such as Scott Weidensaul's 'The Ghost With Trembling Wings'. There's also roughly 20,000 new species described by science every year (most of them are bacteria and tiny arthropods but there's quite often something a bit more substantial) and there's probably millions more that are yet to be identified and described so there's always a slim chance that some cryptid somewhere in the world may turn out to actually exist. Bigfoot's chances of actually existing are pretty much nonexistent though, thousands of people have been hunting it for over 70 years now but they've never found any genuine incontrovertible evidence.
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Kitfox88 posted:I think the Flatwoods Monster is cute tbh it looks like a friend. I'm sure you'll be thrilled to learn that there's a whole bunch of 'sexy' Flatwoods Monster fan art online, as well as porn, as well as erotic Amazon kindle novels. The same is true for pretty much every other kind of cryptid.  Edit: there's also a ton of collectible toys 
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OutOfPrint posted:What I'm really interested in, though, is the concept of High Strangeness, bolded here because there isn't BB code to make the letters appropriately squiggly. There has always been a divide between UFOlogy, ghost hunters, cryptid hunters, and other paranormal researchers. Recently, though, some UFOlogists (notably Richard Dolan, Linda Moulton Howe, and Robert Bigelow, the owner of the infamous Skinwalker Ranch) noticed that UFOs are often seen in conjunction with other paranormal activity in the area, from poltergeist activity to bigfoot and mothman sightings. High Strangeness is the idea that all of these phenomena are somehow connected. The connection has been noted for decades - the Flatwoods Monster started out as a UFO sighting, to give one example. There's been a bunch of bigfoot sightings that have included weird poo poo (including the bigfoot occasionally disappearing into thin air) which was generally dismissed but has been picked up by sections of the community more and more over time, and with online self publishing becoming more and more of a thing we're now seeing books like this:  OutOfPrint posted:A driving force behind a lot of the hardcore skeptics and debunkers is that they really want this stuff to be real. Back in the Bullshit! days, Penn Jillette did a bit where he ranted about how much he wished aliens and magic were genuinely real, but what pissed him off were the charlatans and hucksters trying to make a quick buck off of other peoples' belief. It's one of the few truly good takes he's ever had.
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Azathoth posted:To use the Hopkinsville Goblins, I'll buy that the initial part of the encounter could be explained away by Lucky seeing a fireball, thinking it was a UFO, then getting freaked the gently caress out by an owl when he went out for water. If that was all the encounter was, that's pretty reasonable, but it's not the whole thing. There's been other incidents where groups of people have reported protracted incidents involving weird creatures, like the 1924 Ape Canyon case where five miners were reportedly stuck defending themselves in a cabin while dozens of enraged ape creatures threw boulders at them all night. That story is super popular among cryptozoologists but it's a whole bunch of bullshit as far as I'm concerned because it looks like the only miner to later come forwards and share his version of events was a crazy dude who kept changing the details over the years (the story eventually got wilder and more dangerous, the bigfoots got taller and bulkier and the order of events got mixed around) and he claimed he'd been having psychic premonitions of the ape men for years before it happened. From what I can tell he was interviewed in 1966 by Robert Patterson (one of the guys who later shot the infamous bigfoot film in 1967) and I don't even know if Patterson verified that he was actually one of the original guys from the 1924 reports and not just some crazy random guy who latched onto this old urban legend as his 15 minutes of fame. Some of the original 1924 newspaper articles were some crazy yellow journalism bullshit as well. The thing about cases like Ape Canyon and the Hopkinsville Goblins is that there's zero evidence that the events happened as the witnesses described so there's no way of telling what actually happened, there's only guesswork and speculation.
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Phy posted:I kind of miss the 90s cryptid heyday. I've mentioned it before in other threads but grey aliens give me the creeps like how lots of people seem to feel about clowns. I still strongly remember looking at a book about alien abductions and seeing people's drawings of the creatures they believed they saw, and getting a feeling like the pit of my stomach dropping away. I'm okay with Greys but I remember some random freaky alien image in some 'Mysteries of the World' book that gave me a similar feeling when I was a kid. Ralph Crammed In posted:What happened exactly? Mass hysteria? Toxic waste or pollutants? An actual gasser? Mass hysteria is goddamn crazy and can lead to some bizarre events. The Popobawa is an evil spirit/demon/shapeshifter which has been terrorizing Tanzania sporadically since the 1960s but reached a peak in 1995. The spirit allegedly breaking into houses and sodomizes victims and the panic was so widespread that households would sit around a fire outside all night trying to stay awake. One weird aspect of the case is that the Popobawa hysteria seems to coincide with the election cycles. Many of the Popobawa stories have a lot in common with stories about sleep paralysis and when you combine that with mass hysteria you get a 70 year rampage of an assfucking demon. The hysteria around Chupacabras seems to have spread in a similar way, the difference being that in this case investigators tracked the origin of the story to a woman called Madelyne Tolentino in Puerto Rico who claimed to see a Chupacabra in August 1995 (after an earlier case where some animals were mysteriously killed and reportedly drained of blood in March that year) and got to question her. They figured out that her description of the creature was remarkably similar to the character Sil in the 1995 scifi film Species which Madelyne had seen earlier in the year and she believed that the events she'd seen in the film were happening in real life.  There's a second kind of Chupacabra that got reported on the North American mainland for a while which always turned out to be coyotes with mange, and there's a whole bunch of similar cases of perfectly normal animals with the fur missing or whatever causing a ruckus because people didn't recognise them and refused to believe they weren't a weird monster. The Montauk Monster was a big one, it turned out the be a partially decomposed racoon which had lost all it fur. 
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luxury handset posted:i think it's the tail end of new age philosophy as a popular movement getting sour in older age, and then a bunch of media properties jumping on the bandwagon for profit. the 80s were generally an alternative spiritual time but in a darker sense than age of aquarius optimism in the 70s. people wanted mystery and unorthodox narratives and so cryptids, psychics, all that poo poo got popular for a while I also feel that the bigfoot craze (which grew out of the 50s abominable snowman craze) is at least partially a holdover of the 1930s King Kong "giant brutish monsters are out there somewhere and they're going to come here and gently caress you up and take your women unless you make a stand" genre bubble which was uhhhhhh at least somewhat racially motivated, which definitely reflects the cultural anxieties of the time. King Kong was violently snatched from his homeland and transported to America in chains in the hold of a ship and then forced into a submissive life at the whim of US citizens, now he's cast off his shackles and is loose in our city and no one is safe!! What could this possibly be a metaphor for????
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Of course there's also been a bunch of times where people have spotted a bizarre animal on the loose in their area and it turned out to be real: A report about a black panther on the prowl has finally turned out to be real! An illegally owned panther cub in France escaped while the owner was on holiday and wandered about on a rooftop for about an hour before the authorities tranquilized it.
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catlord posted:I like the Michigan Dogman. It's your pretty standard werewolf style creature, but this one has a catchy little song to go along with it (and which seems to be where all the stories come from). The line about "a dog man looking in, and grinning" is absolutely what gets me though. I've been freaked out by the idea of looking up one night to see a grinning dog-head at the window long before I heard about it. Some of the images in that Dogman music video come from the "Gable film" of a weird shaggy creature galloping about on four legs in a forest, which was allegedly filmed in the 70s and discovered by an anonymous source in an estate sale. The first three minutes of the film is just random home video footage, the monster stuff is right at the end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pfmoGZRZMA Here's the footage stabilized: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ55SOBbHv8 It's just a guy in a ghillie suit on all fours, it was faked by a guy called Mike Agrusa in 2007, edited into some old home movies and released online where it went viral. There's also been a few 'photos' of dogmen (dogsman? dogmans?) taken at various locations, such as the infamous "Beast Of Seven Chutes" photo:  This photo has been discussed and pored over and recreated and 'enhanced' by a huge number of people   In my opinion, the object shown in the photo is ............ nothing at all. It's just random rocks and branches and darker gaps between them photographed at an angle where it sort've looks like it might be some sort of creature. It's just pareidolia, that part of your brain that makes you see faces in woodgrain patterns and made you imagine that the pile of clothes on a chair in your bedroom looked like a monster when the lights went out when you were a kid. Edit: there's a ridiculous number of "bigfoot photos" which are really really really really obviously just random forest shapes    There's a bunch of armchair bigfoot hunters who go through other people's youtube videos frame by frame and try to find photos exactly like these where they can 'see' bigfoots peering out from the forest in the background, it's honestly pretty weird and sad Snowglobe of Doom has a new favorite as of 04:49 on Sep 27, 2019 |
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catlord posted:Yeah, it looks like a tree stump to me. It sure wouldn't be the first time that a photo of a tree stump caused a cryptid scare! Here's some photos of bigfoot:   
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RCarr posted:The video just looks like a bear. Whether it was faked or not doesn’t even plausibly lead to anything else. It's always bears. Here's a bunch of trail cam photos that have been pushed as potential evidence for bigfoot       I've also seen people try and argue that the last photo might be an extinct ground sloth . People also try to argue that partial photos of bears could also be proof of bigfoot:     This one is an interesting one, you can't tell what the hell it is but people sure do love arguing that it might be a bigfoot:  Personally I think it's an owl or some kind of night bird flying really close to the camera.
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Phy posted:Also if you read Achewood, that's totally how Ray walks. That floppy arm thing. I walk like that when I'm crossing the road, complete with the whole-shoulders neck turn. Squatchin' along in front of traffic.
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Aesop Poprock posted:Fortean Times is great, except for their never ending focus on mysterious large cats in the UK. Fuzzy photos of a blurry larger than usual cat is a lovely cryptid animal FT and FT British readers!! 
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immortalyawn posted:Thats some dude in a ghilli suit I'm changing my answer to this one 
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AlmightyBob posted:Pareidolia is a real fucker. I'm hearing impaired from nerve damage caused by Meniere's disease. My left ear is almost completely deaf and the little bit of sound that gets through is distorted to poo poo. I also have 24/7 tinnitus in both ears, so my brain is constantly getting this stream of garbage data and every once in a while it interprets it into someone shouting my name. Only seems to happen when I'm alone at night. Given that it happens at night it could also be a hypnagogic auditory hallucination, which happens when you're falling asleep. I once clearly heard my dad call my name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia Snowglobe of Doom has a new favorite as of 08:19 on Sep 28, 2019 |
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Peanut President posted:there was some show on Discovery or TLC or whatever that tried to prove that NO HUMAN CAN WALK LIKE THIS IT'S IMPOSSIBLE when I literally walk like that all the time People have been arguing to an insane degree over that film and whether it could be a man in a costume or whether IT'S ANATOMICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A HUMAN TO WALK THAT WAY for decades and decades and decades. Certain groups have also tried to recreate a similar costume to show that it was possible or impossible and other people have been arguing about what they did right or what they did wrong and what it proves/disproves blah blah blah There's so many images like this floating around the net, also images with human skeletons and 'best guess' sasquatch skeletons imposed over stills of the Patterson-Gimlin film:   And then there's people like M K Davis who "enhances" and "deblurs" the Patterson-Gimlin footage on his lovely computer and "discovers" brand new details that no one else ever noticed, like the bigfoot has a braid! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XedgvBVOSMg And the bigfoot was carrying a mystery object! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqR-fkwpDFM M K Davis also took some of the other film that Patterson and Gimlin shot earlier in the same expedition and "enhanced" it and discovered that some puddles of water on the ground in some shots turned a mysterious red colour after he put the film through several processes (which he always keeps secret) which lead him to believe that they were actually pools of sasquatch blood and Patterson & Gimlin had actually found several bigfoots and slaughtered all but one, which is why the bigfoot in the infamous film runs away into the forest while nervously glancing back over its shoulder. And then there's guys like Jon-Erik Beckjord who took pareidolia to crazy new levels when he blew up stills of the Patterson-Gimlin film to enormous size and looked at them really hard and discovered all sorts of objects hidden in the bigfoot's body that no one else had noticed before! quote:- Frame 350 And thus the phrase "baboon extra head" aka "BEH" entered into bigfoot lore.
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Azathoth posted:A great example of this is the steam engine. The Romans also figured out a basic steam engine but they went "Huh, neat toy" and didn't go any further with it. On the other hand, their techniques for creating concrete were incredibly advanced and they were doing major projects (the Coliseum is mostly made out of concrete) and constructing concrete works underwater and then most of those techniques were lost for a millennia and we're still trying to figure out how they did some of it. Tunicate posted:On the other hand, a compass is as simple as literally tying a rock to a string, and nobody figured it out for thousands of years after they noted these weird rocks. Also after we'd domesticated horses it took us thousands of years to get around to inventing the stirrup
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Back in 2008 the bigfoot community imploded when a guy called Rick Dyer pulled a crazy hoax when he claimed he'd killed a bigfoot and had its body in a freezer, releasing several photos and inviting bigfoot specialists to a secret location to view the corpse. He managed to fool bigfoot hunter Tom Biscardi into believing it was real, to the point where Biscardi did a press conference where he claimed he'd tocuhed the corpse and verified that it was the real deal and staked his reputation on it (as much as it was, he'd been hoaxed a few years previously).  Once the story spread out into the wider community people pretty quickly realised that the 'corpse' was a fairly well known Halloween costume and it was soon revealed that Dyer had just shoved the costume in a freezer and filled it with road kill to give it an authentic smell. Dyer claimed that he really had shot and killed a bigfoot but THE GUBMINT had confiscated the corpse after he'd made the big announcement and he'd perpetrated the hoax because he felt he needed to have something to show people. In 2012 Dyer once again claimed he'd shot and killed a bigfoot. He'd been out in the woods with a BBC documentary crew (who'd been following three different bigfoot hunting teams around the country) when they allegedly filmed footage of a bigfoot through the flap of their tent with an iphone (the infamous tent video) and Dyer later shot and killed the creature when it returned to camp to scavenge more food. The documentary came out in 2013 and in 2014 Dyer toured the taxidermied bigfoot corpse around the country at festivals and carnivals, charging people $10 to see it (sealed inside a huge perspex box) and allegedly raked in $500,000.  Apparently the people Dyer hired to work on the tour genuinely believed the obviously fake body was real (some of them even putting their lives on hold and traveling across the world to be a part of the tour) and were heartbroken when he admitted the truth, and they spilled the beans to the media and ended the hoax. Dyer left the bigfoot community for a while but in October 2018 he uploaded a Youtube video where he confirms that bigfoot 100% does not exist and he absolutely roasts all the other bigfoot 'hunters' for being liars and con artists, naming specific individuals and calling them out for their dumbassery, and then bitching about how dull and boring the community had become. The reason I mention all this is that Rick released another video a week ago saying "All of it was fake .... except the tent video! The tent video was real!! I'm going to release new evidence real soon!!" He also confirms that he's a diehard Trump supporter (and sounds like a lovely homophobe several times through the video) and he looks like poo poo and the video has only had 300 views. Ol' Rick is hoaxin' again and this time no one cares.
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ruddiger posted:I worked on a couple of really silly cryptid reality shows a while back. Ha ha ha hot drat I used to watch both those shows, they're dumb as poo poo but they were kind of charming in a way. Sometimes the trappers would pretend they actually caught a monster in one of their traps and show some vague FLIR footage of a monstery shape in a cage (a hogzilla or a hellhound or whatever) and then they'd stand around talking and go "Whoo ee what a night! Well, we said we'd come out here and catch it ... and we did!" and then the episode would just end and they'd hard cut to the credits without showing clear footage of what they 'caught' and never mention it ever again. People on bigfoot forums used to argue whether the shows were genuine or staged. I kid you not.
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ruddiger posted:I really like the setup of the show. Local sends pics/vid/audio of a monster lurking around their property, the fellas give the viewer the history/lore of whatever monster they think it is, they make an A-Team style trap and then get into wacky monster hunting shenanigans while waiting in the bushes at night. I loved the trap building segments and the monster lore. Yeah the traps were always fun. The "Finding Bigfoot" show tried to keep things 'fresh' by coming up with new ways to lure bigfoot out of hiding and they obviously started running out of ideas after a few seasons and just tried random dumb stuff like disco lights and whale noises
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:Or the bears with mange that look super weird and creepy? Or this chupacabra that got caught in Texas back in 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n9PaDnBKhk It's a raccoon
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Knormal posted:For whatever reason our eyes don't reflect visible light like cats' Oh god, don't even get me started on eyeshine  Bigfoot believers are 100% convinced that bigfoot eyes reflect light (tapetum lucidum) and therefore any video footage of eyeshine at night when they're running around hooting and hollering and whacking sticks against trees is absolutely totally evidence that a bigfoot was right there looking right at them OMGGGggggggg we were so cloooooose I mean, what else could it possible be? Deer. Also literally hundreds and hundreds of other kinds of regular critters that are in the woods. Edit: there's also a whole lot of stories about cryptids like bigfoot and mothman whose eyes actually emit light and glow. There's all sorts of undersea creatures and insects that have bioluminescence so if you think about it it's totally possible that creatures like bigfoot could have glowing eyes!!! Night vision works by reflecting an increased amount of light through the retina, if a creature's eyes actually emitted light it would pretty much blind them at night. Snowglobe of Doom has a new favorite as of 09:41 on Oct 6, 2019 |
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Hispanic! At The Disco posted:He's 8 feet tall, so they could have called him the Van Meter Giant. Clearly they should have called him the Van Two And A Half Meter Giant 
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ruddiger posted:I think this is my favorite cryptid name from those monster chasing shows. The Sheepsquatch has been around since the mid 90s but I guess it doesn't get mentioned much by 'serious' cryptid hunter sites/shows because it sounds too goofy https://modernfarmer.com/2013/12/move-bigfoot-comes-sheepsquatch/ .... unlike proper serious cryptids with sensible names like Mothman and Chupacabra and Bigfoot which get all the press
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Here's a video about Australian yowie hunters, it turns out they're just as nutso as the US bigfoot hunters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uYcudvsQrU
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Know your crypto-forms! In 2005, George M. Eberhart wrote an article in the Journal of Scientific Exploration in which he placed cryptids (or reports of cryptids) into ten distinct categories: 1. Distribution Anomalies (animals appearing where they're not supposed to be, often panthers or other big cats) 2. Undescribed, Unusual or Outsized Variations of Known Species (giant snakes, etc) 3. Survivals of Recently Extinct Species aka Lazarus Taxa: (reports of live thylacines, etc) 4. Survivals of Species Known Only from the Fossil Record into Modern Times: (coelacanth, reports of plesiosaurs, dinosaurs and mammoths, etc) 5. “Lingerlings” or Survivals of Species Known from the Fossil Record Much Later Into Historical Times than Currently Thought (historical reports of dinosaurs etc) 6. Animals Not Known from the Fossil Record but Related to Known Species (new subspecies, etc) 7. Animals Not Known from the Fossil Record Nor Related to any Known Species (Eberhart put Sasquatch into this category) 8. Mythical Animals with a Zoological Basis (mermaids, unicorns, dragons, etc) 9. Seemingly Paranormal or Supernatural Entities with some Animal-Like Characteristics (Mothman, Jersey Devil, gnomes, etc) 10. Known Hoaxes or Probable Misidentifications (chupacabras etc) Type #3 have always fascinated me, they're species which were assumed to be extinct which just turn up again some day. Wikipedia has a long list of supposedly extinct animals which have been proved to still exist. The Animal Planet channel has a series called 'Extinct Or Alive' where a field biologist tries to track down animals which haven't been seen in decades and unlike all those other shows which try to hunt down cryptids he genuinely rediscovers them in some episodes. A cryptid hunting show which actually finds cryptids!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgFIHMHlBnQ The second series of the show just started and it's off to a cracking start. 
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Ralph Crammed In posted:Alien Big Cats strike me as the most plausible of all the cryptids. I mean poo poo, tigers live in Siberia, don't they? A big cat can take a Danish winter. Denmark's richest alcohol smuggler had a puma escape and it's doing what cats do best - avoiding people and eating birds. Yeah ABCs are quite plausible because there's always some nutter who has been secretly keeping a tiger in his house for years without anyone knowing, like that guy in Harlem who went to hospital torn to shreds and tried to tell the staff he was mauled by a pit bull and they went "You think WE don't know exactly what pit bull bites look like, dumbass??" and tipped off the cops 
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Captain Hygiene posted:
Oh yeah I totally had those as well. I suspect that UFO book was the one that had that one illustration that really creeped me out
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sneaking looks at these was a formative part of my childhood, I'd completely forgotten about them but I want to pick up a new copy and be spooped all over again 
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Captain Hygiene posted:I can't believe this thread got resurrected but didn't break the news that I watched the first episode and I was going to mention it in this thread, planning on saying something like "Hey there's this really cool fictional 'docu-drama' show that has actors playing bigfoot hunters and it shows what a bigfoot expedition would be like if they had bullshit tech that let them calculate where bigfoot would turn up ahead of time!" but then I checked their imdb listing and discovered that while half of the cast are actors who have appeared in a whole bunch of films and TV shows one of them is a legit field biologist who specializes in primatology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mireya_Mayor ... and another seems to be a bonafide outdoorsman and bigfoot nut so now I'm not sure what it's supposed to be. But I can confirm that their first episode turned up absolutely zero evidence. Edit: the hook for the show is that they allegedly developed some super complicated algorithm based on all the recorded bigfoot sightings that lets them predict where and when it most likely to turn up, and they've gone out to a remote area where there's supposedly a really high probability that bigfoot will be moving through there sometime in the following three weeks. Snowglobe of Doom has a new favorite as of 09:32 on Dec 12, 2019 |
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Wasabi the J posted:How do shows like that even work without commercial breaks to build up the false tension over loving nothing?? The **drama** in the first episode was over one guy getting sick with intense headaches and nausea which was undoubtedly caused by bigfoot targeting him with its well documented infrasound weapon WOOOooOOOOoOOOO so the producers sent him off to hospital and now the team is ONE MAN DOWN but they've still only got a three week window to prove bigfoot's existence!!!!!!!
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Captain Hygiene posted:I can't believe this thread got resurrected but didn't break the news that Episode 2 is out and you'll be shocked to learn they still don't have definitive proof. It's like someone watched Finding Bigfoot and all those other dumb shows about idiots wandering around the woods howling and smacking branches against trees and went "Hey how about we make one of those shows except not really stupid?" In this episode they tried doing bigfoot calls to see if that would get a response but instead of just doing their best bigfoot impersonation howls themselves they broadcast a supposed recording of a bigfoot call and then used "military grade technology" to triangulate the exact location of any response, then rushed over there. They're still trying to pack each episode with fake-as-hell **drama** to make it feel exciting. This time one of the bigfoot hunters found **critical evidence** (some random hairs) and absolutely had to get them back to base camp before a storm hit and ruined the evidence (which was now safely stored in collection tubes) but it'd taken him three days to hike up to the top of this mountain so he absolutely had to find a short cut so he ended up rappelling down a "450 foot" cliff. There was a great scene where he was explaining how utterly dangerous and insane it was to do any "solo" rappelling in these conditions to his camera crew.
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Pastry of the Year posted:The VANTASM thread in GBS (which, okay, is like five people, myself included) is leaning weird / cryptid / paranormal for this month and this video was posted and oh, please, do look at it. I implore everyone to watch as much of this video as they can stand
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FFT posted:"And it turned out that the aliens had been 100% correct about the sasquatches" seems to be the gist of the couple in the beginning and wow, you weren't kidding. I love the couple at the start. The dude is barely allowed to speak and at one point he corrects his partner about some minor detail and you can tell she's really pissed off about it even though she's trying to hide it. Edit: there's another two videos which are each nearly 2 hours long as well if you want more! Snowglobe of Doom has a new favorite as of 03:13 on Dec 22, 2019 |
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Dec 22, 2019 03:07
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Azathoth posted:Not recommended if you want to remember anything past the first half of episode 2, or if you don't want to end up in the ER On the other hand, extremely recommended if you want to know what it feels like to experience UFO-related blackout/time loss phenomenon.
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Dec 29, 2019 03:28
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Episode 4 of Expedition Bigfoot aired and I'm sure you'll be shocked to learn that they just keep getting real close to bigfoot (usually helped along by bullshit fancy new tech that they never quite explain) but always end up just missing it! And as usual they end the episode out in the woods in the middle of the night when they're about to make a HUGE BREAKTHROUGH which will no doubt amount to nothing next episode, or at best some vague 'evidence' that's not conclusive but hey you can't just rule it out completely!!! They keep harping on the idea that bigfoot uses infrasound to 'warn' people away and make them sick if they get too close, and they keep replaying an interview with a 'witness' who said he took some evidence from the forest and was struck down with a mystery illness until he returned the evidence back to the forest and was instantly cured. My prediction is that in the final episode they'll find some "actual evidence" that'll prove bigfoot's existence once and for all if only they can get it back to the lab, but one of their team will fall deathly ill and they'll throw the evidence away so that bigfoot will lift his curse and cure their teammate. But they'll have learned some important lesson along the way!
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Dec 30, 2019 11:54
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Pvt.Scott posted:Hmm. Took some weird poo poo from the woods, having it made you sick, getting rid of it made you bettter... No but you see when he left the woods and went back to his car to go home he found eagle feathers tucked underneath the windscreen wiper of his car which was obviously a gift from bigfoot indicating that they were bros now and everything was cool again! There couldn't possibly be any other explanation!! You can drat well guarantee that the Bigfoot Expedition team will also receive a gift of eagle feathers at the end of the final episode
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Dec 30, 2019 14:51
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Captain Hygiene posted:I've been listening to a bunch more of that John Keel audiobook I mentioned, and it...just kinda continues along that same path. Just tons of very credulous reporting and wildly baseless speculation, along with regular anger at Ah jesus, those goddamn giants/nephilim skeletons. Apparently the mound builders buried them all over the US but those guys up in the Smithsonian decided to hide the evidence away in their giant Indiana-Jones-style bunker because [idiotic conspiracy theories] A lot of the bigfoot believers were also pretty keen on that conspiracy theory, they love to tie those giant skeletons in with bigfoot. The National Geographic Society actually had to publish a statement clarifying that they hadn't found proof of giant skeletons and that all those photos and articles online saying they had were hoaxes: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/12/skeleton-giant-photo-hoax/
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Jan 2, 2020 03:39
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OutOfPrint posted:Over the course of tens of thousands of years, anything but the biggest, baddest stone monuments would have decayed to non-existence. That's why I can buy the pyramids, Sphinx, pre-Incan cities, and sites like Gobekli Tepe are older than commonly thought. Those are big loving stone monuments, and, in the case of the Sphinx and Gobekli Tepe, were buried for centuries, if not millennia, preserving them. We've got some pretty good documentation that dates the creation of the pyramids in Giza rather precisely, including records from the time of the wages paid to some of the workers.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Somehow meaning "because we have never seen an elephant or a dead elephant that we knew was a dead elephant as we live somewhere elephants don't exist anymore"? I googled it and the stories about cyclops go back to at least Hesiod's Theogony (c. 700 BC) but the earliest accounts of live elephants being brought into Europe was by Alexander the Great in 327 BC. The Greeks took to them pretty readily from that point, however. quote:The 20 elephants in the army of Pyrrhus of Epirus, which landed at Tarentum in 280 BC for the first Battle of Heraclea, recorded by Plutarch's (in Lives), Polybius, Dionysius of Halicarnassus and Livy. "The most notable elephant in Greek history, called Victor, had long served in Pyrrhus's army, but on seeing its mahout dead before the city walls, it rushed to retrieve him: hoisting him defiantly on his tusks, it took wild and indiscriminate revenge for the man it loved, trampling more of its supporters than its enemies". 
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