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ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018
In a very short while a man is going to come to my house to perform some labour. You can imagine him as a plumber or a carpet cleaner or a chimney sweep or something of that nature.

As an English person obviously I live in state of constant awkward awareness of class Also I am embarrassed for having to hire a man to perform the kind of masculine tasks I feel I should be capable of doing myself. I know I am going to try to act casual in a very unconvincing way as I work up the nerve to ask him if I can make him a cup of tea. Maybe I will even use the word 'cuppa'.

Anyway I was wondering if folks in the US feel a similar need to offer coffee to the Mexicans who come round to mow your lawn. Or if there's some traditional beverage in Norway or South Africa etc. etc?

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ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Universe Master posted:

It's like 95F all day every day here, that would kill them.


Wait you are English I mean -8839 moon units.

maybe ice cold cokes or lemonade that they drink seductively while also running the glass over their sweaty chiselled abs then?

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Real Mean Queen posted:

That kind of thing necessitates lime wedges. If a guy’s supposed to be all sexy in your driveway on your dime, you can’t give anybody an a drink without a garnish on it.

i am assuming the guy who is going to arrive will look like the platonic ideal of a 'dave' so factoring in the sexy element does change the calculation in a way i'm not familiar with :thunk: an important thing to take into consideration.

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

my bat mitzvah ROCKED posted:

Nothing i want more when doing manual labor is to be offered hot lovely tea

i can tell by the way you spell labor that you're not of good english stock so your tea opinions are meaningless

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Oyak posted:

What is the British equivalent of that, now that Britain is poorer than many of its former colonies? Is it chavs?

it's still the Polish

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Big Beef City posted:

I'm imagining this going down as "Can.. Would you like a...IWANNASUCKTHATDICK" based on how you're talking now.

effete lower middle class guy gets railed by working class rough trade is like 80% of gay porn here so i understand that impression - however i am assuming this man will arrive in a polo shirt and a tattoo predicting england's world cup win on one of the numerous years we have been sent home in utter humiliation.

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

BONESAWWWWWW posted:

I always offer whatever I have laying around, OP. Typically it's a can of soda or something I made a pitcher of. I also offer snacks. Never anything hot besides coffee, but I've never been taken up on that.

important clarification: would you go out of your way to purchase snacks or do you merely offer snacks if you already have them on hand? perhaps you always have snacks available? but if you didn't would you make sure to get some in?

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

my bat mitzvah ROCKED posted:

yeah we store than one meals worth of food in our house

snacks aren't food, i mean, i have chicken and olive oil and spices and all the things that would make a meal but they're not *snacks* that would be like....lunchables?

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018
i feel like you're all taking this in a far more sexual direction than was at all intended

also he was supposed to arrive between 12pm and 2pm and it's half one now so my balls are getting incredibly blue

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Jeza posted:

Most builders and plumbers or whatnot guzzle the poo poo down in the UK. Most of the time it isn't hot enough to work up a sweat anyway.

You offer tea or coffee 100% of the time, and a small fraction of the time they ask if they want something cold. A smaller fraction they say no thanks.

This has been a PSA sponsored by Twinings.

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ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Icochet posted:

You need to show him you have other skills. Do yoga or speedrun your favorite video game right next to where he's working.

I once played the bagpipes the whole time when a guy parqueted our floor.

well I'll be replying to this thread while he's doing....the thing he is doing, that's impressive right.

Yoga is impressive though, I went to a hot yoga class and the guys there (of which there where two) looked like greek gods. Then there was me and I couldn't take my T-shirt off which BELIEVE ME in a hot yoga class is no fun.

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Mozi posted:

i usually offer seltzer of some variety, but this would be during the summer

i feel like i never really understood what seltzer was

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018
okay so this seems to happen every time but when someone says - we'll arrive between 12pm and 2pm what they really mean is that they'll arrive at 2:15 because I've been having anxiety about this for like 2 hours now and still no one has arrived!

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018
both of those posts have increased my anxiety in the worst way

- oh and just heard a car door slam shut

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018
I understand that you're mocking me but this is a very intense situation, I am a soft boy and I will wilt in the presence of someone who knows how to use a wrench

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Icochet posted:

Pretend you're offering him a cup of tea but when he extends his hand BANG!! serve him papers because you're suing him for contract violation

i'm only five foot eight so i cannot do anything in the face of a burly and bald headed man

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Oyak posted:

What is the difference between "lower middle class" and "working class?" BTW I am American, so I have never been exposed to any class distinction smaller than millionaire vs welfare recipient.

lower middle class means you worry about how you pronounce your 'aitches' and whether to call the thing you eat after dinner 'pudding' or 'dessert' - working class is what george orwell was talking about when he said 'if there is hope,’ wrote Winston, ‘it lies in the proles.’ i.e. the gin soaked underclasses that scream at each other in their bedgowns on my street.

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Oyak posted:

What is the difference between "lower middle class" and "working class?" BTW I am American, so I have never been exposed to any class distinction smaller than millionaire vs welfare recipient.

also i don't think this is true since you people on here talk about rednecks and silicon valley people and new england 'old money' people (except your country is a baby country and you're ALL new money even if you don't want to believe it) all the time

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Burt Sexual posted:

How do you know they will be men, op?

i'm sorry if this is sexist but i have never had someone to come round to do anything with a wrench or a shovel who has not been a man (also it was a man this time too)

Zippy the Bummer posted:

never use the word "cuppa". that's almost as obnoxious as saying "puppers" or "doggos"

i'm trying to relate to them in a 'matey' way

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Burt Sexual posted:

Just fuckin w ya. But it’s bs that women don’t get into trades more. Electrical, plumbing, etc all accessible for weenies like me. Good money too.

definitely true but they also should be balding and paunchy to maintain the brand

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Patrat posted:

The thing is that 'working class' includes people like self employed electricians and plumbers who make more money than most managers or engineers.

The 'class system' in the UK does not make any actual sense, also only a fraction of the 1% count as 'upper class'.

'Upper Middle Class' people might include an army captain on £30,000 odd a year or a banker who is sending four kids to private schools each costing £30,000 a year in fees, it is not really tied to money, more to type of employment and accent.

there's a million little signifiers and if you grow up english you just soak them into your soul without having to consciously know them - but you are wrong that it doesn't make sense, it makes perfect sense, thinking money and class are intrinsically related is a filthy american sort of idea

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Who What Now posted:

Anyone who identifies themselves or others as a social class is trash and will be taken to the guillotines come the revolution

just picture Robespierre shaking his head at this post you made

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Icochet posted:

How many toffs frequent food banks? I'd wager there's pretty strong correlation between class and wealth even in the UK

no the point is you don't have to frequent a food bank even if you have no 'real' wealth since you can live off your name - i'm just making a distinction between your actual salary / the income you have vs. how you are treated

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Pickwick High posted:

Did he have builder's bum OP?

i averted my eyes once the work began from my own personal shame / respect for his dignity so i cannot tell you

vyst posted:

I came into this thread hoping for a symposium on class politics so that's fun

we're going to sort this all out once and for all

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Mooseykins posted:

That's a blatent yes.

Did he have a white van?

it was off-white

in the end he wanted more than the £20 that had been agreed on which was an awkward moment as i had no extra £20 to give

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

EdwardSwifferhands posted:

It sure would be a nice gesture to offer a beverage to all these thirsty posters OP.


Pickwick High posted:

mine's a TWAT - tea white and two (sugars)

Good Ol Filbert posted:

I'd love some tea!

i know enough about your country that you are selling a ruse filbert

but here, for you all

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ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Hammerite posted:

lol what was he doing that was only going to cost you twenty quid? hammering down a couple of nails? i'm not surprised he wanted more, I wouldn't have gotten out of bed

oh gently caress i typed that all wrong

i meant to say he wanted £20 more on top of the original price we had agreed on

which also sounds ridiculous and i believe he was trying to push his luck after hearing my weak offer of making tea

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