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Riot Carol Danvers posted:On a scale of Becky Chambers to Kameron Hurley, how violent / brutal is Carrier Wave? Kameron Hurley for sure. It's not body horror like Legion though, it's more like if a good writer novelized some of the more gruesome Joker stories from Batman. Modern humans hurting each other quite badly and described well. There's definitely more to it, and I really do like it a hell of a lot so far.
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Riot Carol Danvers posted:On a scale of Becky Chambers to Kameron Hurley, how violent / brutal is Carrier Wave? Who is in the exact middle of the Chambers-Hurley scale?
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Copernic posted:Who is in the exact middle of the Chambers-Hurley scale? Martha Wells maybe? Murderbot can get messed up in some gnarly ways, but doesn't seem to dwell on it.
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The Ladies of Grace Adieu and Other Stories by Susanna Clarke - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002UM5BUU/ A Man of His Word: The Complete Series by Dave Duncan - $3.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0732J6PN5/ Rendezvous with Rama by Arthur C Clarke - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XD75HGV/
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A fine old classic, pity it never had any sequels despite that teasing end. I say again, pity it never had any sequels.
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Groke posted:A fine old classic, pity it never had any sequels despite that teasing end. My high school had a science-fiction literature class and it was one of the books we read in it
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I started with the sequels, out of order, and read the original last.
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Answering "Arthas Menethil" should get you half credit.
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Kchama posted:Answering "Arthas Menethil" should get you half credit. Arthas never wielded Ashbringer, though? It was Alexandros Mograine's sword.
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Arthas' cursed sword was Frostmourne.
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https://twitter.com/itsneonyang/status/1365113866720403458 I really should read these, I loved their Waiting on a Bright Moon
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I'm so glad I started reading this thread again! It's caused me to go to a library for the first time in, I think, a decade? Fantastic recommendations! I've torn through Between Two Fires loving awesome - agree with the monsters are great, the relationship between Thomas and Delphine is great, but the Catholicism does come off as only skin deep. Even so, really fun story and The Necromancer's House pretty awful human being for a protag but (nearly) everyone else is even worse. Still a huge breath of fresh air in terms of a creative take on what is essentially "urban fantasy." Great villain, and a really fun and kinda gross read. About to finish The Stars are Legion(50 ish pages left) which I think I like even more than those first two and will be diving into Gideon the Ninth next. Just wanted to say I appreciate y'all with these recs.
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Kchama posted:Answering "Arthas Menethil" should get you half credit. Or "Anomander Rake," for that matter.
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GoodluckJonathan posted:I'm so glad I started reading this thread again! It's caused me to go to a library for the first time in, I think, a decade? Fantastic recommendations! Realtalk genre fiction has never been in a better place. There are so many releases, more and more older stuff is available for ebook or audiobook, we're getting more diverse authors, it's just an absolutely fantastic time to be reading.
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Weird ask - my partner loves the poo poo out of the concept of werewolves, but despairs that there are really few examples of werewolf fiction that don't involve the protagonists being a slave race/poor/white trash/etc as their main point. Anyone have anything different, like lycanthropes that actually have agency? Particularly if it's queer media.
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Silly Newbie posted:Weird ask - my partner loves the poo poo out of the concept of werewolves, but despairs that there are really few examples of werewolf fiction that don't involve the protagonists being a slave race/poor/white trash/etc as their main point. How about queer Indian werewolves? https://www.amazon.com/Devourers-Novel-Indra-Das-ebook/dp/B016TG5RLK It’s pretty gruesome in its description of devouring though, fair warning.
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Silly Newbie posted:Weird ask - my partner loves the poo poo out of the concept of werewolves, but despairs that there are really few examples of werewolf fiction that don't involve the protagonists being a slave race/poor/white trash/etc as their main point. Nadya - 1840s Wild West America with a queer woman werewolf. Apparently was a "Tiptree shortlist 1996" Five Moons Rising - More urban fantasy/paranormal romance, werewolf/demon hunter lesbians action thriller thing. Has a sequel. Silver Kiss - Paranormal romance-y, werewolf/non-werewolf lesbians solve murder. Silver Moon - Menopause turns woman in a town into werewolves! Goldenseal - Paranormal romance, werewolf/non-werewolf, trust issues. Midnight Hunt - the worst published porn I've ever read, only on the list because it has lesbian werewolves in it. Complete garbage, do not read.
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Moving on from those, I too am frustrated by the lack of werewolves in my fiction because they tend to be either purely horror or purely paranormal romance. There are quite a few who feature in urban fantasy series - Patricia Briggs' Mercy series as well as Alpha and Omega series, LKH's Anita Blake series - but they tend to be side characters. Well, Alpha and Omega is a series specifically about werewolves, so I'm kind of dumb for omitting that one. It's about a werewolf pair struggling to face the challenges their pack faces as they reveal that werewolves exist to the public, maybe. e: gently caress forgot one more, Kitty Norville is an urban fantasy series about a werewolf lady who runs a radio show, escapes her abusive pack and forms a new one.
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Silly Newbie posted:Weird ask - my partner loves the poo poo out of the concept of werewolves, but despairs that there are really few examples of werewolf fiction that don't involve the protagonists being a slave race/poor/white trash/etc as their main point. I can't help on the queer aspect, but here are some good werewolf horror novels: Animals by Skipp & Spector The Wolfen by Whitley Strieber (important to note that the wolves here are the bad guys, but it's a great book) Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones
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Ornamented Death posted:I can't help on the queer aspect, but here are some good werewolf horror novels: Not to disagree with these, but Mongrels is explicitly about poor/white trash werewolves afaik.
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StrixNebulosa posted:Not to disagree with these, but Mongrels is explicitly about poor/white trash werewolves afaik. poo poo, you're right. Sorry about that! Hell for that matter so are the werewolves in Animals (for the most part). I am very bad at this.
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The Hawthorn House series by Sean Cunningham has werewolves (one's a main character, sort of...), and it's a fairly good urban fantasy series. Hell, it's got a girl who's shadow eats people. The only real, slave? I guess I could describe the wolf guy as is a wage slave. The Interesting Times series has a main character who's a werewolf who's sort of a PI/partner to the big boss of the group. Wears hawaiian shirts, and I can't remember anything where he's treated second class or anything like that. Matthew Storm is the author. For some reason I am drawing a blank on werewolves, but i know I've seen em in some other stuff as well. The Wolf Hunt series by Jeff Strand has em, and the first book has one who is a complete rear end in a top hat. Second and third books ... I'd say not so much, but it's mainly a different kind of rear end in a top hat I guess. All of them are great books though. On KU if that helps.
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Much appreciated everyone, I showed them the list and they're a little less depressed about how their favorite monster/cryptid/fantasy thing is treated in media. I might read a few of those myself, because they sound cool as hell.
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I know I read a book that was a long free-verse poem about werewolves that I really enjoyed, though I think they're also fairly low in the socioeconomic order. fake edit: It's Sharp Teeth by Toby Barlow.
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Silly Newbie posted:Weird ask - my partner loves the poo poo out of the concept of werewolves, but despairs that there are really few examples of werewolf fiction that don't involve the protagonists being a slave race/poor/white trash/etc as their main point. The Werewolf in Lore and Legend https://archive.org/details/TheWerewolfInLoreAndLegend
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Silly Newbie posted:Weird ask - my partner loves the poo poo out of the concept of werewolves, but despairs that there are really few examples of werewolf fiction that don't involve the protagonists being a slave race/poor/white trash/etc as their main point. Try the Mortal Instruments books. Some of the major side characters are werewolves, some of the major side characters are queer. I can't remember if there are queer werewolves. These books are trashy fun, reminded a bit of Buffy, and I would have them enjoyed them a lot more when I was younger (i.e. back when Buffy came out). Warning: contains a lot of sarcastic teen-agers delivering sarcastic one liners. Apparently it got turned into a TV show. I didn't know that until I did some googling to try to remember the name if the series.
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Silly Newbie posted:Weird ask - my partner loves the poo poo out of the concept of werewolves, but despairs that there are really few examples of werewolf fiction that don't involve the protagonists being a slave race/poor/white trash/etc as their main point. Not Queer, but The Wolfs Hour by Robert McCammon is basically “what if James Bond buy a werewolf?”
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Silly Newbie posted:Weird ask - my partner loves the poo poo out of the concept of werewolves, but despairs that there are really few examples of werewolf fiction that don't involve the protagonists being a slave race/poor/white trash/etc as their main point. I recall it being a bit of a Marmite book, but I'm in the camp that really loved The Last Werewolf by Glen Duncan: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40651862-the-last-werewolf There's also Frostbite by David Wellington, I didn't like it as much as his zombie or vampire books but it was still a fun read: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5127109-frostbite Also, Werewolf on the Western Front ticks all the boxes you listed, which is the only reason I'm posting it, because I think it's otherwise a faux pas to recommend your own book: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54764299-werewolf-on-the-western-front
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navyjack posted:Not Queer, but The Wolfs Hour by Robert McCammon is basically “what if James Bond buy a werewolf?” He would have a nice doggo/assistant? Who sells werewolfs anyhow? This has slavery undertones, no?
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Finished Tyrant, loved it. Really great work, General B, all that pay-off really landed for me. Baru's birthday party almost brought me to happy-tears, and Tau-indi is one of my literary favourite characters ever.
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Collateral posted:He would have a nice doggo/assistant? Man I was half-asleep when I wrote that and it was supposed to be “What if James Bond WAS a werewolf?” 
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navyjack posted:Man I was half-asleep when I wrote that and it was supposed to be “What if James Bond WAS a werewolf?” This isn’t the only rocket I’m hiding, Moneypenny.
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The Cinder Spires: The Aeronaut's Windlass by Jim Butcher - $3.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TY3ZKFY/ Outlander by Diana Gabaldon - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FC2L1O/ The Sheep Look Up by John Brunner - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J5X5LVQ/ Stanislaw Lem sale The Cyberiad: Stories - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CKDFE9W/ Tales of Pirx the Pilot - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0077FC55Y/ The Chain of Chance - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008F0ON4G/ Memoirs Found in a Bathtub - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008R2JK1S/ A Perfect Vacuum - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008FC7TZ4/ Fiasco - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008R2J70M/ Eden - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008533D44/
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StrixNebulosa posted:https://twitter.com/itsneonyang/status/1365113866720403458 sorry, could someone explain what silkpunk means?
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It's set in a world influenced by any or all of several Asian cultures.
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Mauser posted:sorry, could someone explain what silkpunk means? From the stuff I've read that's been tagged with it, it seems to roughly be Southeast Asian-inspired fantasy that has some combination of magic and industrial revolution-era technology in it. (I might be wrong though.)
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Captain Monkey posted:This isn’t the only rocket I’m hiding, Moneypenny. This made me spit beer through my nose so thanks
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