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kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison
weev is still alive? I’d have figured he would have od’ed on research chems by now

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salisbury shake
Dec 27, 2011

Neon Noodle posted:

isn’t rabite weev

that sucks if true, but it isn't surprising that weev can still find a home among the posters on hn

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

in the midst of an actually p good thread about how "knowledge economy" and outsourcing is both neocolonialism and going to eventually gut the western economy and innovation

quote:

"People that reach for this kind of decisions occasionally seem to still have a colonialism point of view, like 'they will do as told and we still stay in control', "

It's not necessary colonialist as such, merely takes the past history as implications of future patterns. The so called colonialist powers were ahead in the game from 1700's up to the middle of the 20th century.

Colonialism coincided with the rise of industrialization and science. The so called "colonized" nations did not have the chance to utilize these and rise up to their full human potential.

I think a good historical example is that of Japan. Japan was effectively a medieval state in 1850 when the Perry expedition forced it to the modern era [0]. And 50 years later they beat a major world power in a technological military engagement in the Battle of Tsushima [1] against Russia! Gaining 500 years of advancements in technology in 50 years really amazing. But it really just reflects that we are all human, and all successes are due standing in the shoulder of past giants. And late comers to the game still have those same shoulder to stand on.

I suppose, then, half a century - or, two generations - is a good rule of thumb on how long it takes for a sovereign power to play catchup and to leapfrog to current "state of the art" just as long as it has a functioning state.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Expedition

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tsushima

qed the backwards japanese were elevated by western superiority based on the uncontested and definitely not """"colonial"""" advancement metric of "doing a big battle". the so called colonialism was actually just industrial and scientific advancement that unlocked their full 10x human potential as killbots

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

salisbury shake posted:

rabite 5 months ago | parent [–] | on: The ReiserFS Filesystem (2000)

Reiser is up for parole this year. The hearing is in March. I myself don't have a lot of public respectability, but if you are a CS PhD or occupy a notable position at a tech company you might be able to mail the parole board. Murdering your wife is detestable but I don't think he will ever find another woman to marry him and I don't think he would commit murder under any other circumstances. I don't think he is a continuing danger to society and the world would benefit if Reiser were allowed to continue his work.

lol wtf is it with coders elevating random nix ecosystem people as being some sort of supermen who must be allowed to build their socket daemon or whatever and not just random people who happened to build thing any one of ten thousand other people are also capable of doing equally well

alexandriao
Jul 20, 2019


Breakfast All Day posted:

lol wtf is it with coders elevating random nix ecosystem people as being some sort of supermen who must be allowed to build their socket daemon or whatever and not just random people who happened to build thing any one of ten thousand other people are also capable of doing equally well

It's because they don't know how. Remember, most of the people on hacker news are Javascript coders. Javascript coders who make a distinction between "library developers" and "normal developers", for some intangible reason I still can't get my head around.

So these skills become something special, something prophetic, because they don't understand them. And after all, They Are Pretty Smart so if they don't understand them then it must be special if you do, right?

And it's likely they have tried in the past to understand them, but because many programmers, myself included, were "gifted children" or whatever (bear in mind that hacker news posters always seek to regard themselves as some higher class of people or whatever the gently caress they have going on that makes them try to soind superior to each other constantly), they never learned how to study. So because they don't understand the material immediately, they give up. Then to protect their ego and do away with that nasty nasty cognitive dissonance, they figure that these people are in a "better class".

The 10x programmer, that mythical being that never really exists except in a handful of cases. Used to excuse their own flaws instead of working on them, introspecting, and becoming a better human being.

mystes
May 31, 2006

Also the only people more boring than ufo deniers are evopsych deniers. Denying the basic economics that mathematically play out in gene pools. In brains that are indifferently assembled by gene pools. Really, it goes back to nearly everyone having poor intuition about the power of exponents, such as after n generations.

Or pretending that gender is not an important variable in gene pools, under the delusional view that the act of reproduction requires that both genders pay a remotely comparable investment cost.

Not just people who hate chud evopsych evangelicals, but who flatly rule out the whole inquiry because of that association. Boring.

mystes
May 31, 2006

Oh wait, that wasn't from HN.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
You should quote that

fritz
Jul 26, 2003


this way lies helldump fwiw

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

fritz posted:

this way lies helldump fwiw

plus it kind of is right here on the forums, so i am already doing my best avoiding the weird little conspiracy subcommunity that is springing up. those that find that entertaining can head over and read all they want.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

fritz posted:

this way lies helldump fwiw

yeah keep this thread to bad hn opinions

salisbury shake
Dec 27, 2011
macspoofing 7 hours ago [–]

>In Germany, the vast majority of homeless people are addicts or people with major mental health problems.

That's true in Canada and United States. The problem is that there are major legal barriers pushed through by activists to prevent forced institutionalization. Apparently it is a fundamental human right to live in a tent city off the freeway without basic sanitation.

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jakearmitage 5 hours ago [–]

Wait, so are you in favor of rounding up people in buses and sending them, against their will, in "institutions" for "their own good"?

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macspoofing 3 hours ago [–]

Yes. 1000x times YES. We're not talking about institutionalizing just anybody who is on the street. We're talking about institutionalizing people with severe mental illness who cannot make those decisions and are living on the street. Are you not for that?

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salisbury shake
Dec 27, 2011
in every major american city, and in general in america, the vast majority of homeless people are without a home because of economic issues like the loss of income, relationship issues like divorce and abuse, and the lack of affordable housing.

hn painting everyone priced out of housing as drug addicted or mentally ill is one of my pet peeves.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

i support rounding up the homeless people and putting them in institutions as long as i get to pick the institution.

i propose a nice clean safe apartment of their own, or failing that, jeff bezos' house

in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

Our real estate firm says opportunity's arousing
To make some condos out of low-income housing
Immediately, we need some media heat
To say that gangs run the street and then we bring in the police fleet!
Harass and beat everybody till they look inebriated
When we buy the land, motherfuckas will appreciate it

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
alexander1100 1 hour ago | parent | flag | favorite | on: Three Individuals Charged for Alleged Roles in Twi...

I personally lost $6000 dollars, is there any way I could prove that I was a victim and get my crypto back?

DaTroof
Nov 16, 2000

CC LIMERICK CONTEST GRAND CHAMPION
There once was a poster named Troof
Who was getting quite long in the toof

Suspicious Dish posted:

alexander1100 1 hour ago | parent | flag | favorite | on: Three Individuals Charged for Alleged Roles in Twi...

I personally lost $6000 dollars, is there any way I could prove that I was a victim and get my crypto back?

poo poo like this is so fuckin precious

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

i attached my wealth to the foot of a passing eagle, is there any way the government can resolve this for me?

Truman Peyote
Oct 11, 2006



check out the philistines in the thread about the Spotify CEO saying musicians should just release music more often if they want to make money

quote:

shakezula 8 hours ago [–]

I used to work in the music industry professionally, on the ground level doing booking and management. This trend has been happening slowly for nearly a decade but it’s finally here. Rap and Hip Hop figured out a long time before most other genres that rapid small releases was a far better way to keep hype and sales up. Before Spotify was a thing, the shift was happening with YouTube but it wasn’t as predominant. Now it’s basically assumed you’ll be releasing singles every month.

The music isn’t your product, the music is your marketing. The shows, the merch, your influence - that’s your product.


quote:

quacked 8 hours ago [–]

> The music isn’t your product, the music is your marketing. The shows, the merch, your influence - that’s your product.

Man, that's depressing.

quote:

ZephyrBlu 2 hours ago [–]

It's amazing, not depressing. Music is an incredibly effective marketing channel.


it is a rich vein

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

DaTroof posted:

poo poo like this is so fuckin precious

it really is on the same level as calling the cops because your drug dealer ripped you off

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

salisbury shake posted:

hn painting everyone priced out of housing as drug addicted or mentally ill is one of my pet peeves.

wait until you discover Nextdoor

Nextdoor makes Hacker News look woke

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Sagebrush posted:

i support rounding up the homeless people and putting them in institutions as long as i get to pick the institution.

i propose a nice clean safe apartment of their own, or failing that, jeff bezos' house

but then they’d be getting something for nothing! we can’t have that

better to spend tens of thousands of dollars per year per homeless person administering programs intended to help them, so that money can go to people who work for it

right?

alexandriao
Jul 20, 2019


eschaton posted:

but then they’d be getting something for nothing! we can’t have that

better to spend tens of thousands of dollars per year per homeless person administering programs intended to help them, so that money can go to the rich people funelling money out of that system into defense, and people still done to charities that funnel money to rich people

right?

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

Suspicious Dish posted:

alexander1100 1 hour ago | parent | flag | favorite | on: Three Individuals Charged for Alleged Roles in Twi...

I personally lost $6000 dollars, is there any way I could prove that I was a victim and get my crypto back?

imagine being dumb enough to fall for this and then dumb enough to admit it on hn

fritz
Jul 26, 2003

cw: hacker opinions re: child sexual abuse imagery


lilboiluvr69 12 hours ago [–]

He said: “If they are caught actively searching for this, they will have no more of a defence than someone that’s doing it because they want to find it for their own gratification. It is not a defence in court going looking for this.”
I wonder, with the rise of deep fakes and CGI, why a company hasn't come up with a business model offering professional rendered synthetic child pornography. It seems to me that there would be demand for it, and if an ethically un-encumbered product is indistinguishable from the real thing, much of the demand of child sexual abuse imagery would evaporate.
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thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24025442

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison
how the gently caress is that not greyed out lmbo

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison
holy gently caress that thread

quote:

I wouldn't be surprised if you knew a lot of pedophiles personally, you just don't know they are pedophiles because they never told you, don't engage in illegal activity, and are otherwise indistinguishable from the rest of society.

my "you probably know a lot of pedophiles" shirt is getting a lot of questions already answered by my shirt

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

uncurable mlady posted:

holy gently caress that thread


my "you probably know a lot of pedophiles" shirt is getting a lot of questions already answered by my shirt

maybe hes english?

mystes
May 31, 2006

Maybe he's catholic?

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

fritz posted:

cw: hacker opinions re: child sexual abuse imagery


lilboiluvr69 12 hours ago [–]

He said: “If they are caught actively searching for this, they will have no more of a defence than someone that’s doing it because they want to find it for their own gratification. It is not a defence in court going looking for this.”
I wonder, with the rise of deep fakes and CGI, why a company hasn't come up with a business model offering professional rendered synthetic child pornography. It seems to me that there would be demand for it, and if an ethically un-encumbered product is indistinguishable from the real thing, much of the demand of child sexual abuse imagery would evaporate.
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thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24025442

Isn't this just anime?

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
INTPenis 4 hours ago [–]

> The third-best approach is to join an instance that is (a) neutral in its content and (b) not overbearing in its moderation policies. Most of those listed on joinmastodon fail this test.

I don't advertise my instance, it also blocks registrations from anyone outside of EU, but I have the same policy.

I'm as left as left gets, my family and friends are made up of several activists. But I also am annoyed with how hate speech and right wing people are moderated.

My opinion is that they should first of all be reasoned with. And if you can't reason with them then each user may block them on their own.

But to just block their entire instance, or "Gab", is to sweep a bunch of HUMANS under the carpet and not even attempt to communicate with them. That goes against my core principles.

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dads friend steve
Dec 24, 2004

Mr.Radar posted:

INTPenis 4 hours ago [–]

powerful username imo

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

quote:

SomeoneFromCA 1 hour ago [–]

From the scond paper:
"Templer & Arikawa (2006) also found that average IQ correlated significantly with average skin darkness (r = −0.92). The authors offered little explanation of why this trend exists, except that they believed skin colour was related to exposure to certain climates over evolutionary time."

I doubt that scientists today would dare to make such statements, for the fear of being "cancelled".

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normal person: cancel culture is making people scared to be racists :)

this guy: cancel culture is making people scared to be racists *trying to hand you a copy of the bell curve*

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

My GPT-3 Blog Got 26 Thousand Visitors in 2 Weeks

quote:

In this post, not only did people not realize they were reading generated text, but they enjoyed the writing so much that they voted it above dozens of other human-written articles.

I must confess, I actually lied earlier when I told you only one person noticed. Only one person reached out to me to ask if GPT-3 was writing the articles. However, there were a few commenters on hacker news who also guessed it. Funny enough, nobody took notice because the community downvoted the comments.

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


i guess if stuff made with gpt-3 is indistinguishable enough from "magic" for a big enough number of people then we have our AI panacea, case closed

Nybble
Jun 28, 2008

praise chuck, raise heck

quote:

let's say for the kind of content on this website, GPT-3 can only increase efficiency by 50% (keep in mind for self-help style writing, speedup was over 5x for me, but I’ve also never worked in media, so I’m being conservative). Remaining even more conservative, let's say that only half of the writers at Buzzfeed can benefit from these efficiency gains.

This would mean that ~133 writers with GPT-3 can produce the same amount of content as 200 writers without it. If we viewed this in terms of labor costs, replacing the 200 person team with a 133 person, GPT-3 supported team would save Buzzfeed about3 million dollars annually.

Honestly, unless GPT-3 ends up being a total flop for content production, I think this number could be much higher.

can't imagine why media folks are super suspicious of tech lately!

alexandriao
Jul 20, 2019


https://twitter.com/ex_aItiora/status/1290668180000706562?s=19

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

i went and read the blog in question and it read more like someone who was ESL rather than GPT-3 but i guess if he was doing minor edits to it then that makes sense.

fritz
Jul 26, 2003

graycat 5 hours ago | parent [–] | on: Frances Allen has died

Fran and I were on the same floor at IBM's Watson lab. I was in an AI project doing applied math, e.g., some optimization, and mathematical statistics (for the AI work we were doing, system monitoring, i.e., anomaly detection, better than our AI work!). She was regarded as a major expert in compiling and numerical codes for scientific computing.
I heard that she was working on a software product that among many other things would do fast matrix multiplication using some parallelism.
So, just for the heck of it, I wrote and ran a little routine in PL/I that used PL/I's feature of multi-tasking to get some parallelism and showed my code to her. She was a little surprised I'd written the code, had a smile, and explained why her work closer to some hardware features (I don't recall the details) would be faster!
I wasn't surprised or disappointed that my little PL/I tasking code would be slower than what she was doing, but at least I got her to explain the hardware she was using and how she was exploiting it!
As I recall, she was married to Jack Schwartz at Courant Institute of NYU and as in
Nelson Dunford and Jacob T. Schwartz, Linear Operators.
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xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Oh poo poo, I read her article the day before she died.

Any of you pay me 1 BTC and I'll read your enemy's article.

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