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I feel unusually excited in that they also noted that XP will be gained through campaign play like back in the day. Thats been way overdue.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2020 18:46 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 09:08 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:It never really struck me before now how half assed the Flood are in Halo 2. Having the little infection forms revive dead corpses but still having the Flood immune to melee damage really doesn't help in the gameplay department either. At least 3 fixed some of that problem. Going back to Halo 2 now years later, it really really shows how rushed the game feels in some areas.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2020 01:11 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:I'd actually say they get worse after Combat Evolved. The CE Banshee can at least take a couple hits, but the Halo 2 Banshee is dead meat if anything gets behind you and no amount of backflips will get them off your rear end. 2 seemed really really into the "sympathetic damage" thing with the vehicles, combined with the way you have way less health in that game than the others. The CE Banshee also has that weird thing where if you try and hover with it by holding the direction stick back, you fall out of the sky.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2020 17:47 |
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RBA Starblade posted:The ghost in Halo 2 can be immediately blown up if you shoot the fusion core underneath the driver's left foot, it's suicide to be in it lol I think that’s also the only game where it does it’s delayed explosion after it blows up the first time, posing quite a hazard on tank levels.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2020 18:12 |
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Looks like the update came out early. 343 responding to question about if its intentional on Reddit with "🤔" edit: the season unlock system is being updated and is unavailable, but that part should go live tomorrow apparently. Okan170 fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Jul 14, 2020 |
# ¿ Jul 14, 2020 04:18 |
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Went into the Halo wiki to see whats changed since last I checked in with the series and discovered that apparently Halsey is Miranda Keyes' mother? And the weird Nightfall thing about the one chunk of Installation 04 that apparently went through a slipspace rupture that happened invisibly when the Pillar of Autumn's reactor exploded. This also created a unique-to-the-universe element which degrades only human DNA. And its so serious about it all... I can't even begin to understand why these decisions were made.
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2020 01:23 |
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If you thought the graphics look better in your memory for CE, there may be a grain of truth to that. The Gearbox port that the Classic graphics mode is based on is missing quite a lot of features that were present in the Xbox version. One of these is that bump maps do not show up unless they are illuminated by a dynamic light source like the flashlight, but on the original Xbox they were lit up by the lighting in the scene. During the Gearbox port, somehow the lighting information was lost and the visible maps haven’t been back in a release since. Another example of this was that Needler ammo that you can find in 343 Guilty Spark looked kind of like a plasma globe on the inside, with little filaments dancing around inside the crystal. Same effect was on jackal shields, drop ship energy fields etc. Hopefully some of that can get restored at some point. Okan170 fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Jul 17, 2020 |
# ¿ Jul 17, 2020 00:16 |
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Solaris 2.0 posted:Cortana is the only sentient thing to ever treat John like a person, instead of a tool / something to be feared. Even Halsey never actually gives a poo poo about him. I don't know how you label such a relationship but that's why he cares so deeply about her. I always thought of the relationship as almost entirely nonromantic except for playful jabs at each other. John has been through so much modification, but shes the closest hes known to a kindred spirit or real friend.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2020 00:12 |
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chaosapiant posted:Ok cool; I’m not even interested in multi, but can switch back to K&B easily enough if I were. Thanks! I’ve got an xbox controller at hand and so far it seems to switch between them easily. As in if youre playing K&B, tapping A or something on the controller will immediately switch all the key prompts to controller prompts and vice versa. In game or in menu.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2020 21:59 |
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Lord Ludikrous posted:The only thing I find annoying about the controller is there seems to be no scheme that matches the original Halo/Halo 2 from the Xbox completely. The closest I can get has B as melee but still has reload bound to RB. For what it’s worth, this was the behavior on Halo 3 on the Xbox 360. I spent many an hour accidentally throwing equipment on the ground while trying to reload due to that muscle memory, they moved reload to the bumper buttons because they wanted you to be able to reload the left and right hands independently.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2020 01:59 |
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Bloodplay it again posted:In one or more Halo games, once you have been falling at max speed for a certain amount of time, it kills you, regardless of whether you went low enough to fall through a kill plane or not. The skull works in both Halo and Halo 2, as well. What I meant was: if you zip around long enough without bumping/landing on top of something, the game kills you off because you have been "falling" for too long. You occasionally need to land/bump something to change velocity or else the game thinks you fell through the map or whatever, where it will proceed to kill you and reload to the last-saved checkpoint. If you're dying after flying in Halo 3 you might be running into kill zones- it has less of the "auto-death after falling for x amount of time" and a lot more of the "anyone who crosses this dies" kind of stuff.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2020 23:34 |
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RBA Starblade posted:The plasma rifle is oddly good against Flood in H3 It also has hidden powers- it’s one of the few weapons that will damage Pure Flood forms when they go into their defensive curled up posture. Of course I only just realized after all these years that you can shoot the infection form out of combat forms’ chests, essentially headshotting them. Though they can still reanimate. edit: Came across these in my recommendations a few days ago- lots of amazing historical development chaos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwfnAM3dBrM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBi_xx26ClM Okan170 fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Jul 20, 2020 |
# ¿ Jul 20, 2020 19:27 |
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Logical1234 posted:I got to say, the campaign was really tightly written with hindsight. While the characters weren’t as fleshed out as some would prefer, it’s works for this scenario. The atmosphere was literally one ‘tense’ note, and it makes you as the player wish we could have known these characters longer, and thus it feels like a loss as the members of the main cast start going down. I have a feeling that the feeling of Halo games is tightly related to the tone of the games- specifically the combination of apocalyptic destruction, human extinction, casual humor, slight dopeyness and etherial almost new-agey music. When parts of this take a background position, the darker sadder parts of the setting start becoming more apparent. Like the way that Reach and 4 both dial back the "sillier" parts of the equation, and whats left doesn't really hang together quite as well. One of the Bungie podcasts back in the 2000s had one of the devs describe it pretty well that Halo is a universe that is "fun to play in" but would "suck to live in" and I wonder if finding a new voice is part of what is tripping the new games up some, apart from terrible plot.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2020 17:45 |
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Kin posted:Hah, if its what they intended, then they ran out of steam halfway through. The big discontinuity in 3 is that "Cortana" was supposed to be the 2nd half of "Floodgate". The generators you destroy in Cortana are the ones that Miranda Keyes talks about needing to blow up on board the crashed covenant ship in Floodgate (before the Shipmaster just glasses Voi) and the interiors are all directly from the Covenant ship design with a new skybox- you even fight through a ruined version of the covenant bridge that appears in Shipmaster's cutscenes. Originally you had to make your way into the ship, retrieve the message and blow it up. The actual Cortana level was to be very specifically High Charity, and play off the "ghost" vision of Cortana you see walking through hallways in the cutscene at the end of "The Covenant", you'd have to break in get Cortana and do some stuff with fighting Gravemind by commandeering an immobile Scarab with Cortana's help. However they wound up being unable to execute the original level they wanted and with the time situation, they redesigned the last half of Floodgate to have some high charity elements and repurposed it. Unlike in Halo 2 though, this was more compartmentalized and happened soon enough that it doesn't totally break the entire game and narrative, just kind of messes with it where Halo 2 really is missing that. All 3 of the games probably should someday be given a more complete go-over. But considering all the baggage, thats probably best done as part of an inevitable reboot that jettisons the worst of the lore. Currently its like they want to tell science fiction stories of a certain complexity in a universe that isn't really set up to handle that kind of detail- and the bits filling in the gaps really feel even more hokey as a result. edit: The Kins posted:Also lines that were recorded before they probably should have been rewritten, like Cortana inexplicably dropping into British slang when she first meets 343 Guilty Spark. I posted the commentary tracks from CE and 2 up a bit, but they actually directly mention this. Having originally intended her to be British- by the time it became really apparent how jarring it was, it was too late to rerecord the lines. At least it made young Okan170 go bug mom as to what "Toady" meant! They should've just occasionally kept slipping in british phrasing into her dialog for fun, its not like an AI can't be kind of weird. Okan170 fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Jul 22, 2020 |
# ¿ Jul 22, 2020 17:20 |
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RBA Starblade posted:I just finished replaying that part and it's funny how after Chief gets the Cortana voicemail and apparently just turns around and leaves, the Elite ships glass everything BUT the flood-generating machine. Maybe shoot a laser that way too guys I think they glass the ship too- it seems like it crashed into Voi and then Voi got glassed. Except for the ark portal generator which is presumably still keeping that portal open for a while.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2020 17:27 |
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Anti-Tachyon posted:Clearly it couldn't do either, since apparently it didn't even kill a gravemind that was on a halo ring when it fired I thought the Gravemind in 2 arose after the rings were fired?
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2020 18:49 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:Assault on the Control Room is a slog because they copy paste the same room 9 times and it gets old fast. You used to be able to get a very early Banshee in Assault on the Control Room- right after you first get the Scorpion you fight some tanks and a Banshee comes to strafe you. It comes from a platform (to the final pulse generator in Two Betrayals), and if you shot the bottom of the platform with the tank, on the classic Xbox it would go through the platform and flip the banshee up and down to the ground where you could pick it up. This doesn't work in the standard CE campaign anymore, but if you turn on the physics skulls you can blast it off the platform with the tank by shooting around it (made easier by being in high resolution), then go pick it up and zoom through the level. The marines will actually still follow you, but if you skip large enough sections the enemies will stop spawning and eventually the marines might disappear in a loading zone. The doors, elevators and the end level cutscene will still play though.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2020 20:53 |
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Solaris 2.0 posted:The whole plot is a mess worthy of the new Star Wars trilogy in terms of how convoluted it all is. I say again, I really wish 343 would have just rebooted the drat franchise at this point and have the plot to Infinite be something closer to what Bungie originally intended for CE. Especially now we have the tech to actually have large-scale guerilla battles to showcase. Kind of low-key hoping that the end of Infinite is a Marathon-style timeline gently caress to reboot things in some way. Also disappointed with the way that, from the new trailer, over time the human designs have gotten more "literal military hardware" and less like "conceptually, what might an assault rifle look like in 300 years?" At least 343 has managed to get allow themselves to have spaces on models which do not have excessive detail- it felt like in 4 and 5 there was a "oh god theres a blank expanse of metal here, we need greebles!". My Halo-buddy friend growing up eventually worked at 343 as a modeler and got so beaten down by the aesthetic that he and some other artists created some things like "The UNSC toilet" that were just overgreebled to hell- I hope one day we're allowed to see that stuff.
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2020 19:06 |
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This is probably the most comprehensive video covering whats an issue. Oddly, I think that Reach's system where the abilities are pickups allows a lot more flexibility than what it turned into with Halo 4 and 5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pnEtAqnhpw
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2020 05:35 |
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Oxyclean posted:Pretty much. Felt "fine": when he was just some enemy commander responsible for the battle at 04, since it was really easy not to think of the casualties. But as this fleet master whose tactics was basically solely responsible for wiping out billions of humans, yikes. I think there are time skips with FTL travel. Apparently CE takes place a few weeks or a month after Reach due to travel time for example. Which further makes the Reach designs funnier when you see artists talk about how they designed the assault rifle to look "more primitive" than the one in CE. Its only like, a month later! To say nothing of the way the Covenant must've somehow intercepted all the M6D pistols and ammo leaving the Pillar of Autumn with the last remaining supply in the galaxy.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2020 20:39 |
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Zaphod42 posted:This all comes across as last minute excuses. "oh its an old build, and we really appreciate the feedback so we can incorporate it!" Sounds pretty on-point, all the press from Microsoft about the trailer was that it was the usual graphical cutting edge buzzwords, and there wasn't any acknowledgement of it being anything other than stunning for a few days. Its been going around the community all week that "the build was from January" or "from 2019" as a reason why it looked that way. And the switch from that to having it be confirmed as "several weeks ago" is pretty much worst case there. Zaphod42 posted:You have to remember the context that this is the first we're seeing of Xbox Series X and MS is using Halo Infinite to tout its new graphics powerhouse. The raytracing thing though is confusing coming at it from the computer graphics angle- if its something they're relying on to bring the lighting to life then they're going to be talking about doing things like raytraced shadows, reflections, maybe global illumination. But those alone aren't enough to make the whole thing look stunning. The only other thing I can think of is that they're thinking of raytracing as full path-tracing like Quake 2 and Minecraft RTX. But those games both run at the limit of current hardware even on the RTX cards, with Minecraft only reaching 60fps 1440p regularly when using DLSS to upscale, and both games relying heavily on the hardware denoising algorithms to make the lighting not grainy. IF they were doing full path tracing on the Xbox hardware that would actually be an incredible achievement, especially since they would've had to tackle upscaling and denoising on their own standards independent of anything NVIDIA. To say nothing of hitting 4k 60fps with such a setup. It kind of makes me even more dubious because it sounds like its a thing that people are pinning their hopes on to rescue the visuals of the game, but I don't think its something they can execute to the level that people are picturing in their heads. But at the same time, if it WASN'T built around raytracing solving everything, then why would they go for a lighting system that is dynamic and unable to achieve the kind of look that current generation games are able to already surpass? Okan170 fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jul 31, 2020 |
# ¿ Jul 31, 2020 23:12 |
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Zaphod42 posted:Metro Exodus is the best implementation of ray tracing I've seen yet I think people are imagining the difference like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSfCMtbzotQ But yeah, thats so far beyond what could be done anytime soon on something Halo at full size and fps. And even then, if you had the game built properly you could get most of that with existing tech. Which brings us back around to whats the reason this is going to sell the Xbox- if its focused on the 4k 60fps thing then the whole pitch seems kind of badly-considered.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2020 02:14 |
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Zaphod42 posted:I've played like 20 rounds of Ghost Town this weekend Geez, people have a ton of patience! It only took me 4 games of "casual" team deathmatch where half your team quits instantly to swear off multiplayer entirely. I guess theres Firefight Arcade for those of us who just want to unlock stuff but not have to deal with multiplayer.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2020 19:56 |
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Abroham Lincoln posted:Like right up until some flood with human weapons chip through your shields. Or all the parts where you have to stand around and defend doors. Or when they just show up with rocket launchers and gib you or when the carrier forms just chain react and land next to you and and and Fun bit about that, I think the combat forms firing the way they do with human weapons in CE is a remnant of an earlier control scheme. At a certain point a few months before release, the AR and the Plasma Rifle were trigger-sensitive. So if you held it down you'd fire a full inaccurate spread, but if you lightly tapped the trigger it would fire more accurately but more slowly- just as the combat forms do. TheGreySpectre posted:The problem is I didn't like destiny. If I wanted to play destiny I would go play destiny. I don't. I want to play Halo with it's designed linear levels, no open world filler content and arena based multiplayer. Yeah I get this... I was never into the multiplayer stuff big time and Destiny just missed piquing my interest entirely. With 343's track record I can see the content vacuum Destiny had happening in Infinite as well.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2020 20:16 |
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Zaphod42 posted:Its this. I can kind of feel this just trying to play MCC online. There’s such a wide skill gap and skill is so important that you just end up getting wailed on with little idea as to why or what is going on. Once in a while you get a match that’s actually fun but the overall trend of it all is just really not very fun. There are inches of people that enjoy that and sink a lot of time into it and it winds up creating a huge barrier to new players, especially if most advice is of the “Git gud” variety.
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2020 20:50 |
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Disproportionation posted:Isn't vehicle health tied in some way to the occupants'? I get why they do that but it does sometimes result in weird stuff like that. This is how it usually is in the other Halo games. For example in Halo 2 Legendary, because you have the 2nd lowest amount of health of any entity in the game (aside from the flood infection form), when you enter a vehicle you actually make that whole vehicle significantly more fragile. For things like the Scorpion, any Marines riding on it will also take sympathetic damage whenever you are hit.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2020 00:18 |
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Flannelette posted:Yeah in 3 if you hit the ghost's weak spot it explodes and just damages the driver and the passengers often just get ejected with heavy damage from exploding vehicles. Playing H2A on Legendary still gives plenty of the classic [Plasma cannons pounding on tank] [Chief dies quickly and his corpse pops out of the tank, but everyone else okay!] [Chief's ragdoll forearm or foreleg pivots onto the ground after a perfect comic pause]
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2020 03:54 |
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Xinlum posted:Anyone have luck messing around with old H2 glitches? It's still super easy to get out of bounds on Containment, but I could not make progress on sword cancelling to escape Turf, I got out of bounds but couldn't really move around the rooftops like I remember doing in the original. I also haven't gotten any of the superbounces to work in Ascension but I might just be doing them wrong. Sword canceling and sword flying apparently got killed by the MCC switching to 60 tick gameplay, maybe it was a glitch related to the 30 tick version that came out on Xbox. I know I've read a 343 Q&A where they mentioned that the skulls added to Halo 2 Anniversary allow some of the same trips to be taken, but without the sword jumping. Other "Escape the Map" glitches are still very do-able and MCC added a few things like little hidden dolls out in some of the weirdest areas. Like, if you take the ghost out of bounds on Great Journey, you can still climb the mountain but theres a doll on top that you get an achievement for finding. The Halo Engine/Blam! Engine kind of treats the player as some kind of Hydrogen molecule- that is to say to you, everything is permeable if you just push hard enough on the right material.
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2020 20:09 |
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TheGreySpectre posted:Much as I love masterchief's trademark green armor, I would love if with all of these extra amor options 343 gave us the option to use customized armor in the campaign. This seems to cover it pretty well. Sounds like primarily a bunch of disagreements about music rights and being snarky about it while working on Destiny and discovering his music not being used in the trailers as well as some severe disagreements about company direction under Activision. With all that resulting in him getting pissy and working slowly through Destiny's audio work in response and managing the audio department into a slowdown which frustrated many working in the department. https://kotaku.com/how-halo-and-destinys-composer-got-fired-from-bungie-1728943410 https://www.engadget.com/2015-09-04-halo-destiny-composer-marty-odonnell-wins-lawsuit-against.html To be fair, Marty O'Donnel is a conservative (when asked about it in an early 2000s podcast, he did say "the surge is working thats all I'll say!") but I'm not sure if hes gone "FULL chud" in the way we think of it now. Still something to be aware of I think.
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# ¿ Aug 27, 2020 18:27 |
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August MCC Update https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-development-update-august-2020 Sounds like a lot of the multiplayer update stuff that was being tested in the ODST flights including better reporting options and server options is getting rolled into the main game with ODST. Okan170 fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Sep 2, 2020 |
# ¿ Sep 2, 2020 07:54 |
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Solaris 2.0 posted:Wasn’t the game originally a DLC expansion for Halo 3 that got padded into a full release? Yeah it was originally an expansion. Heck I wouldve even be down for a 2nd ODST sized game that was about idk, the Arbiter going on a few adventures or something. Wouldn’t even need to change the mechanics much.
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# ¿ Sep 27, 2020 18:49 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:You can get the first one after Buck's mission. I only found 21 by the time Data Core starts and then you're locked out of the rest of the city which kinda sucks. One nice thing is that your collection is cumulative- if you start a new game you still have all the audio logs from before and can finish it off that way.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2020 18:40 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:I'm of two minds about that. On one hand it is very handy for repeat playthroughs of games because you have quick access to the audio logs, but on the other hand part of the fun of a new playthrough is secret hunting and having the logs not appear again on a log after you've found them all could be disappointing. Yep, thats the drawback. After you've finished all that, there are very few reasons to go back to the streets of New Mombassa level.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2020 19:01 |
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Flannelette posted:It's weird they never put in a enemy that countered the plasma pistol and pp/headshot combo. Arguably the Brutes in Halo 2 are pretty close to this. Without any armor thats vulnerable to plasma, they're essentially bullet sponges with possible headshots after de-helmetification. Arrath posted:Correct me if i'm wrong, but plasma has never been very useful against flood, no? In 3 it is the only thing that will damage flood Pure forms regardless of if they're armored up or not. I'd give the CE Plasma Rifle/Pistol extra points mostly because the bullet magnetism in the game tends to make it really easy to pop infection forms with them, and hitting a combat form stuns it briefly.
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2020 19:58 |
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In Halo 2, the Wraiths have the same amount of health as whoever is driving them. So if a spec ops elite is driving them, it can easily take upwards of 4 rockets on Heroic or Legendary. Same reason on those difficulties that any tank you drive becomes like wet tissue paper- it’s sympathetic damage based on the driver. I think there also might be a bug here because I never encountered such resilient Wraiths until the MCC
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2020 20:46 |
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Firing up Halo 4 flighting and I have to say after the rest of the series I remember why I didn't spend much time with this title. Its really amazing how much harder it is to play when things like enemy silhouettes are kind of a blobby mess (Grunts/Elites) and the color grading makes Jackals with activated shields indistinct from say sunlit grass. And then the Promethians show up. There might be a special place in hell for the person who decided that the HUD needs to be a literal helmet with bits at the edge just blacked out- at least the FOV slider makes it possible to actually see through it.
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2020 19:40 |
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Bedshaped posted:I'm the kind of braindead person that thinks this is cool 5 arguably executes it better by defocusing those parts, and its less annoying on big monitors where your face is close enough that the HUD goes into your peripheral vision. Still very jarring after the rest of the games I think but to each their own.
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2020 20:05 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:Does anyone else get really bad screen tearing in MCC's charactet customization menus? I've got vsync turned on but it doesn't seem to work with the zoom and rotate animations for the customization tab. Yeah. I think the MCC wrapper which includes the character customization display is actually running in UE4 and while it generally obeys framerate limiting it doesn't seem to understand vsync. Seems like we're losing the old color customization in Infinite, in favor of a more Destiny-esque system. https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/colorful-column (cynically I'm guessing its to prevent people from reproducing the Mountain Dew Battle Rifle skin)
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2020 01:14 |
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Tighclops posted:That company is not capable of doing anything right without immediately loving it up I've been biased for a few years after a few friends I grew up with managed to finally get to work on Halo with 343... and then came out of it drained and defeated people. They can always pull something off I suppose, but theres zero reason to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2020 20:53 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 09:08 |
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Things seem tense at 343. Chris Lee leaves as project director. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-28/microsoft-s-new-halo-game-loses-top-director-after-project-delay
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2020 18:16 |