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Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Well, that sucks. Guessing that the creative differences were that he wanted to dip more into high strangeness/cosmic horror and Marvel balked.

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Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
The video we're talking around notes that the glut of the "Wholesome West" serials was during the 50s and 60s. All the kids who grew up watching the shitload of Western TV series were just the right age when Blazing Saddles came out and put a stake through the heart once and for all. It notes the beginnings of grim Westerns, specifically High Plains Drifter coming out the year before, but that Blazing Saddles really feels like the mark where everyone just gave up on trying to farm any nostalgia out of the genre and you saw the permanent switch to grittier Western movies.

I'd say for Bond the bigger hit came from the Bourne Identity. That showed people a lower key spy thriller with no gadgets that was really satisfying, along with a darker focus on assassins and gritty foreign policy in a post-9/11 world that was apparently really thirsty for it. That why you get less gadgets and more physical violence and guns in Casino Royale. But I don't think you can say Bond is dead, when Mission Impossible is very much the same bullshit and it's still going. People just didn't want a hovercraft chase through North Korea's minefield and a diamond space laser.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Surprisingly, I'd say that the Tales from the Borderlands series did some fun things with just about the right amount of dumb humor and only a few missteps. Ideally we could get something closer to that. Not optimistic though.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

galagazombie posted:

Have you read the Old Testament? because you just described it to a T.

Will Iron Man 3 and The Manchurian be the equivalent of when Jesus hosed up a fig tree for being out of season?

The tweet has strong old man swearing that his life was important energy. I'm picturing someone insisting that Buster Keaton almost getting crushed by a house will start a religion. Or those guys who are obsessed with old goofy animation and swear that "real" cartoons that are funny if they're muted will be back any day now.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Classic animation is kind of all the rage lately, with Cuphead and Bendy and the Ink Machine, Disney made a bunch of old-styled Mickey Mouse shorts.

I was thinking more of the John K fanatics and whatever you want to call that style, but fair point.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
At least in John Wick they're somewhat implied to mostly be regular homeless people and runaways with potential who he took under his wing. In David Cage's games they're often literally the Illuminati hiding in plain sight and living off the grid. In one case so that they could prepare to fight physical personifications of the Internet and AI to prevent the 2012 apocalypse.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
If you're down for reading a writer and reviewer slowly lose his poo poo while playing through Heavy Rain specifically to critique it's writing, then this series isn't bad.

https://gamecritics.com/daniel-weissenberger/heavy-rain-is-in-many-ways-not-well-written-part-1/

It's a long multiple part thing but I remember it being a fun read.

The craziest point I remember from that critique was how many contrivances and lies he worked in to make the twist work. Aside from outright lying in the killer's internal thoughts, no one ever has the option to ask for a description of the killer from people who had run-ins with him, because it would be immediately obvious to the player. So an investigative reporter and an FBI agent go around questioning people and never ask what the guy looks like. All they care about is trying to get his name and going after obvious red herrings. And to add to the pile, at some point canonically the killer goes into a narrow vent system that he'd never be able to fit into. I normally hate calling out "plot holes" but there's just so loving many of them in Heavy Rain.

I still don't quite know how he managed to make a fairly interesting hour or so of Indigo Prophecy. Like other goons have said, Cage skates because of this glimpses of fun, ambitious projects but it just always falls apart so fast.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Not to derail to hard about video games, but Cage is also a case where Indigo Prophecy was boosted because he supposedly originally wanted it to be an episodic game and had to rush out the entire back half when the publisher pulled the plug. The game does fall off a cliff after a very noticeable chapter ending. That got him a lot of sympathy that papered over the worst parts and let him lean into the tortured creative angle. Heavy Rain was able to coast as a distinct looking "mature" game with dark themes and a focus on story, and most people don't actually complete the games that they buy so there's not much pushback except among us nerds. Beyond and Detroit seem to be making him lose some of the sheen at least. The Ellen Page controversy got a lot of coverage and got the word out that he was being a weird creep about her.

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Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Robot Style posted:

The stuff I've seen of the cut Joker sequences wasn't super inspiring, but probably would have worked in the context of the character as Harley's skeezy ex-boyfriend.
One of them had Joker try to sway Harley back to his side after throwing her out of a helicopter by proclaiming himself the king of Gotham and saying "every king needs his sweet little bitch".

Yeah, the bits and pieces I heard laid a lot of the butchering back at Ayers' feet since he supposedly wanted the Joker to be way more of an abusive rear end in a top hat which would have probably been too unpleasant and generally bad anyway, and then when the recut changed the tone it completely stood out and had to get recut to pieces on top of what already happened.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Somewhere the dude who tried to turn Skinwalker Ranch into a big thing is grinding his teeth into a fine paste while screaming about Reddit. I skimmed the first part of the story and it's embarrassing airport level novel writing that's probably mid-tier even for r/nosleep, but it's fine. Not sure how it's really worth that much though. The ideas are basic as hell. Oh it's a will-o-the-wisp, then it appears as a naked dude *gasp* and finally it's a burlap scarecrow...but get this, it can come alive if you set it on fire too close to your house!

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

What exactly is the proposition for owning this thing?

I guess we'll see if the rumors that they always planned to just stitch all the mini-episodes together into normal episodes and movies were true. Did the Reno 911 stuff at least end up decent?

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Mierenneuker posted:

They also kept putting that final slo-mo scene in trailers and ads, so you totally knew it was coming and it had zero pay-off.

I think it was for ASM 2 that someone just gathered all of the trailers and was able to pretty much stitch together the movie. I want to say they were so nervous that they put over 30 minutes of footage out from announcement to release.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Neo Rasa posted:

That's exactly what happened. Nostalgia bait stuff has always been a thing but RPO doing it via a VR/video game sort of thing made it "new" to a lot of critics. People definitely knew what was up when Armada dropped though.

I think there's something to be said for his specific dumb version of nostalgia too. The whole "Yes, it looks exactly like Rivendale, the elf city from The Lord of the Rings" worked well for people who wanted mainline nostalgia and references spoonfed to them. But that's probably a one time high.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Payndz posted:

The X Files episode about the Mandela Mengele Effect is probably the best of the revival run, and in the top ranks of the whole series. Predictably, it was written by Darin Morgan who in an ultra-meta moment now gets retroactively killed by his own creation.

Also given how the finale turned out, making his entire episode about how utterly dumb it was to try and chase nostalgia and revive the X-Files was a great flex.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Failed Imagineer posted:

I read Hillbilly Elegy and it's one of the reasons I'm a braindead moron now, real mind killing stuff.

Essentially he spends a couple hundred pages describing harrowing social deprivation (only white people count, but whatever), and then in the end he lands on his own unique version of Bootstraps Theory as a solution. It sucks poo poo

There's also the media's obsession with casting him as a genius hillbilly whisperer. I remember some podcast that caught an article about what a brave and noble soul he was for staying Applachia even after he got rich, acting like living in a major city in Ohio was the same as living in the holler.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Lovely Joe Stalin posted:

I don't know how that case went, but he absolutely did copy the living descendent stuff from a decades older work.

This turned out to be kind of funny. I believe the Holy Blood Holy Grail book authors sued him for copying their book. Which conceptually he did. The funny thing is that they insisted that their book was all true, shocking facts, which means that it's just a history book and you can't copyright the concept of history. If it's true, then it's true. So they got stuck between trying to get money from Dan Brown and admitting that their book was fiction.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

MrBling posted:

Nah. Disney commissioned a script based on the ride in 2001 which was just a straight forward pirate story (I think Disney wanted Matthew McConaughey as Jack Sparrow) but when they got Jerry Bruckheimer on board he didn't like the script because it was "just a pirate movie", so they had some other guys rewrite it to add the supernatural stuff.

Wasn't the other part of the story, or at least the version I've read before, that Disney had a dream of a whole universe of movies based on theme park rides. They also had ones for Haunted Mansion and Country Bear Jamboree. The whole thing turned out to be a mix of failures and clusterfucks so they basically wrote off Pirates and let them do their own thing, which is why it ended up good.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
The thing is that Borderlands can be a good setting. I felt like Telltales' Tales from the Borderlands did a pretty good job even though I don't really like the main games. You get rid of about 90% of the terrible monkey cheese humor and lean into the stuff about it being a horrifically over the top corporate dystopia, and keep Claptrap to just a few minutes so it hits right, and it can be a pretty good dark comedy. I, uh, don't think Eli Roth's the right person for the job though.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Vince MechMahon posted:

Banana Splits was literally a rewritten script for a scrapped five nights movie, if I'm remembering correctly.

It's kind of weird that it took so long to get a Five Nights at Freddy's movie together. There are multiple pretty clear ways to approach it and they didn't really hit when it was at the peak. They might get lucky and find people are ready for more, but this seems like what happened with the failed Slenderman takes. The Banana Splits movie story and setting doesn't read like much of a ripoff, but it was trading on Freddy's energy during the brief little press run for it so I'd believe it was a dead script. And now they're getting beaten by an actual ripoff.

Bloody Disgusting had a kind of funny summary of the pile of dead screenplays from an AMA on reddit

quote:

Over on Reddit, Cawthon also dug a little bit into each of those previous screenplays that were ultimately tossed out, including one that was far too loosely based on the games, another that would’ve taken the characters into Manhattan, one packed with lore from multiple games, and one concept he describes as “too much after-school adventure, not enough horror.”

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

FlamingLiberal posted:

It's just really stupid to me because essentially the thesis of the post-RoTJ stuff is that nothing the original trilogy characters did mattered.

I'm not digging up the Disney tweet, but there was some pitch for some future line of comics or something about how "Don't worry, Rey, Finn and Poe still have plenty of Stormtroopers to fight! The battle's not over yet!"

And it's like, oh, cool. So nothing mattered and all those sacrifices were for nothing. Cool. Cool ending to the big trilogy. Can't possibly just have them fight some new aliens or take on Hutt mercenaries or something.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
It's rare that you get true "Are you an alien?" dialogue out of people, but Quibi was the gift that kept on giving. Whitman being unable to name any TV series that she liked, until she settled on insisting that her favorite TV show was some episode of a documentary about Grant on History channel is something beautiful. And then you read that Katenzenberg was apparently still obsessed with Jane Fonda workout tapes.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

X-Ray Pecs posted:

I think her exact phrase was that she isn't much of a "content consumer." Real freak poo poo.

I double-checked and it was "I'm not sure that I'd classify myself as an entertainment enthusiast." Which is great for someone running a TV service.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
There are occasional shots and mentions of phaser rifles even in The Next Generation, but I believe there was a whole philosophical thing about the phaser not looking like a weapon. Both to not glorify war in the show and to show the Federation's relative pacifism. This also led to no one ever remotely aiming in the right spot and having to rely on generous SFX laser lines to make it work.

Also the Elite Force games ruled and I'd love a show based on that idea.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Punkin Spunkin posted:

Wow it's like a lovely american Edukators

I was going to go with bad Spring Breakers.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Pretty sure this has been a thing for decades, like with rainbow parties. The media has always been credulous old fucks eager to repeat ridiculous lies that make boomers panic

If you want to be really sad, there was already a dumb clown panic shortly after John Gacy was caught that played out almost exactly the same as the 2016 one. As far as anyone can tell looking back, people were just having full freakouts and calling the cops over seeing clowns driving from one birthday party to the next. The "You're Wrong About" seemed to cover it well.

And yeah, you still hear about rainbows parties even though they were obviously fake just from the description. Although now everyone's obsessed with human trafficking. Just not the real kind, the Taken kind.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Samovar posted:

Someone should make a film about the undermining of reconstruction and frame the advertising as the South winning the war.

Free State of Jones covered some of that, to my general surprise. I was sure they'd cap it off sooner to keep it happy. It made for a super depressing 3rd act.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Yes, looking back parts of 4 are at least kind of fun even if the movie's bad overall, there's almost enough for it to be okay as a TV rewatch. 5 is trash through and through. I've lived kind of a charmed movie life but it was the first movie where I really regretted showing up and thought about bailing. They managed to do a completely joyless car chase that goes on for what feels like forever, which is almost an accomplishment.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

duz posted:

Any time he had a gun, he wanted to shoot someone so they started using his stand in when his character had to do gun work so that he wouldn't personally have a gun.

Also just action scenes in general, according to the leaks/that podcast. They were terrified to ever put a weapon in his hand because there was real fear that he would just smash some poor actor/stunt man in the knees with a pipe. He supposedly went too far a couple of times.

And yeah, hilariously he never actually understood the character and kept wanting the hero to Punisher-style execute people. He also supposedly wanted to leave a gay character to die in a scene, because God and all that. They talked him out of it by invoking that the firefighters on 9/11 saved gay people too, which made him get teary-eyed and repeat it as his reasoning to go through with the scene.

Just amazing stuff.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

muscles like this! posted:

IIRC that one the Arnold bit is little more than a glorified cameo.

It's a whole beautiful genre of trying to catch bored people's eyes on streaming services. Similarly, having had the misfortune of watching most of Trauma Center, Willis is barely in it too. That thing about him working for about 2-3 days and telling the director to deal with it seems to be true and really visible in the movie. He films his own little weird 20-minute movie and they figure out how to have it crossover with the main one for long enough for it to kind of make sense.

I can't find the clip now, but I liked Frank Grillo telling the story of once walking onto the set of a Willis movie and realizing that "oh, this is a Garden Movie." It's gonna suck, I'm just going to grind it out over a rough 2-4 weeks of filming on no budget, but my garden is going to look amazing once this check clears.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
From my understanding Boots is one of those people who has some hot takes and deactivates every few months. In the funny Twitter thread that got linked people were referencing recent stuff. Although I guess the most recent time he just got tired of fighting with people about how the US media was handling the little round of protests in Cuba.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

FlamingLiberal posted:

I'm convinced that a lot of these celebs have completely worthless agents, because this year I've lost track of the number who are like 'I almost never shower' and just act like this is a normal thing to do.

I like the :tinfoil: thought that it was all consent manufacturing for the upcoming residential water restrictions in California/West Coast. I maybe 5% unironically think that now.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
The :tinfoil: part was how they all seemed to come out at once. But yeah, celebrities having their weird stuff exposed is nothing new.

The MSJ posted:

I figured California just always have a water shortage and all these celebrities are either just concerned about water or want to avoid getting cancelled for using water like Oprah and a few others several years ago.

I think that was Kristin Bell's excuse. Although if that's really your concern you could just do a quick blast, soap up with the water off and then rinse off. I guess that's not going in a headline though.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

joylessdivision posted:

That's just Pig Blood Blues :colbert:

Which is a weird god drat story. Really good, but I seem to remember having to read it a second time to actually parse what hell I'd just read.

I started to make this reference and I'm glad that someone else did. Books of Blood has some of the weirdest moments in it. Hard to call it a "fun" read but it sure is interesting. I vaguely remember somebody doing a new Books of Blood anthology TV/streaming series, it wasn't well reviewed, right?

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

IShallRiseAgain posted:

Malignant is a very bad film until the ending, which is awesome.

It benefits a lot from streaming. Unless you're just loving the bad expository dialog it all goes down much easier if you can zone out between kills in the 1st and 2nd acts.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Casimir Radon posted:

Sabina: The Christian Grift Isn’t Performing Anymore So This Is Porn Now

Featuring the (step)father, the (step)son and the holey spirit.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Same thing as with the "I Hate Everybody" sandwich board in Die Hard 3.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Also having not watched Ingrid Goes West yet, Blackpill is basically just Ingrid Goes West but a dude this time, right?

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Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

FlamingLiberal posted:

People remember who William Hung is?

They will after they hear a haunting rendition of She Bangs sung by a choir.

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