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skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.

Grimey Drawer

maffew buildings posted:

just watched the highlights. what a shitshow. i thought the liberty u policy was if someone is scoring just to watch, though

The 24 car needed the help of several partners to get there at the end

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Elitist Bitch
Sep 13, 2007





CactusWeasle posted:

The guy may be a bizarre, massive tool ... but we arent overflowing with new fans so might aswell welcome him with open arms

No.

mischief
Jun 3, 2003


skaboomizzy posted:

The 24 car needed the help of several partners to get there at the end

Pinecone Sample
Oct 12, 2010

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by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation in accordance with a seizure warrant issued pursuant to 69 U.S.C Sec. 420


chamois posted:

I am curious, which track would you prefer to have an eliminator on? I am of course concerned for the safety of the drivers, but this was relatively tame compared to other superspeedway races this season. I honestly think that having a race with direct championship implications at a track where anything can happen is exciting, and good for the health of the sport overall. Imagine if Bubba or Reddick had won and snuck into the playoffs. It would be a top 5 sports moment in any year.

You're not wrong, and I think I took my position to an extreme logical conclusion.

I do find that the short track racing has been some of the most entertaining this year, though. Some of the cookie cutter tracks are bad racing, but they're also representative.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDss0Up7Fko

Reynold
Feb 14, 2012

Suffer not the unclean to live.

Well that was another disappointing Xfinity finish. Hamlin just couldn't hold it together and ruined both his and Chastain's chance at the win there at the end. Jones is cool tho.

chamois
Oct 24, 2010



Elliot feels like the guy this year

Ungratek
Aug 2, 2005



chamois posted:

Elliot feels like the guy this year

Aged like a fine wine

chamois
Oct 24, 2010



Dillon feels like the guy this year

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009




chamois posted:

Elliot feels like the guy this year

if by this you mean the guy who will steal an underserved championship away from a driver having a career year thanks to an idiotic points system then yes i agree

Nit Wit Dog Shit
Sep 28, 2000



Toilet Rascal

chamois posted:

Elliot feels like the guy this year

You know drat well it's going to be either Harvick or Hamlin, with Truex being a long shot.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014





Megamarm

The good kyle is going to pull a 2011 smoke.

chamois
Oct 24, 2010



kidcoelacanth posted:

if by this you mean the guy who will steal an underserved championship away from a driver having a career year thanks to an idiotic points system then yes i agree

Chase was in position to win at least 2 more races, which would've put him at 4 going into the playoffs. He also won the all star race. He could've won tonight if Truex hadn't taken them both out. The gulf between him and the top drivers isn't as big as you'd think and if he could chain together 3 or 4 good races he'd be right there with harvick. If you don't like him that's one thing but he's not a tier 2 driver by any measure.

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009




elliott's having a fine year but harvick is just on another level in 2020, anyone but hamlin beating him at phoenix is going to be yet another joke title

chamois
Oct 24, 2010



I agree the title becomes meaningless when a guy can win 4 times more than everyone else and still somehow not win the championship. To beat harvick a driver would have to win a ton in the final stretch and thus have a competitive win total but there's no way Harvick is done winning.

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009




https://twitter.com/jeff_gluck/stat...374111989612550

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014





Megamarm

Do it with Texas instead.

Auto club will really suck for 20 years as soon as they repave it though so I guess this is cool.

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003



Details from the article. If all goes as planned it’ll be ready for 2023


WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind

This will kill Indycar's chances of ever racing on a 2 mile oval, possibly ever again depending on what happens with Michigan.

Anyways, this is great. What a bold idea out of NASCAR. They're going to make a super unique race track that takes the long straights of Martinsville and the high banks of Bristol and have it smack dab in the middle of a major market. I'd go to the first race in a heartbeat.

I also wonder what Irwindale thinks about this turn of events. Having two major paved half-mile tracks 35 miles apart might finally get it to actually close down.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

I'm too dumb to get probated


this is cool, but not nearly as cool as a return of riverside

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post



ah those things that LA famously didnt abandon and still loves, short tracks. alright im headed out to Exposition Park, then Legion Ascot, then South Ascot, then Ascot Park, then Beverly Hills Speedway, then the Culver City Speedway, then Gilmore Stadium, then Gardena Speedway, then Carrell Speedway, then the literally 100 other tracks that used to be in LA but closed.

as a side note, im real jealous of when my dad talks about the 60s in LA, the entire city was auto racing obsessed. "Where They Raced" is a fun little book to read about it (that was literally someones graduate thesis so it isnt really a book per se)

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind

The middle bit is an overlay of the proposed layout over the current track.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

That's.... a good Idea?

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind

Cygni posted:

"Where They Raced" is a fun little book to read about it (that was literally someones graduate thesis so it isnt really a book per se)

The movie version is free on Tubi. I know what I'm watching tonight.

https://tubitv.com/movies/458349/where_they_raced

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post



WindyMan posted:

The middle bit is an overlay of the proposed layout over the current track.



tbh this is extremely sad to me

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

What are some of the hilights of Fontana? Were there some especially notable CART races there or something?

I cant remember a single thing about Fontana except getting into an argument with a goon itt about if a D oval is a cookie cutter oval or not.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind

Cygni posted:

tbh this is extremely sad to me

I'm most upset over Indycar losing a Triple Crown-type race track and potential race. In a not-too-alternate universe, Penske still owns the track after buying Indycar, and we get a 500 mile season finale every year. My next level of upsetness is how this is going to screw over Irwindale, because it will one way or the other.

Lots of good memories with Indycar racing there but I think this will be a net positive for the track and NASCAR. After seeing the Cup race in Fontana last year I swore I would never go there again. But put a Cup short track in my backyard? Sign me the gently caress up.

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!





algebra testes posted:

What are some of the hilights of Fontana? Were there some especially notable CART races there or something?

I cant remember a single thing about Fontana except getting into an argument with a goon itt about if a D oval is a cookie cutter oval or not.

That's where CART always went ham. The closed circuit record (which still stands) was set there. Also the only good pack racing indycar event happened there.

Also there was the one year that like ten different engines blew up

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

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algebra testes posted:

What are some of the hilights of Fontana?

In NASCAR, it was the absolute most boring track to watch for its first decade. Like, less entertaining than any other track you could name.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post



Just in general:

Big beautiful facility with high speeds, wide turns, and huge full grandstands at its peak

Replaced by a tiny, obviously going to fail bizarre-o short track created in last gasp effort to keep from closing down. All this in the countries 2nd most populated region, the place a huge amount of racing history in the US came from, where a lot of the parts suppliers and shops still are, where a lot of the drivers came from, etc.

Its just a sad microcosm of racings death in the US, and that is sad because i like racing.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014





Megamarm

As the pavement got worse it got a lot better but it's going to have to be repaved someday and then it will be awful. The same thing will happen when Atlanta gets paved.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Again, Torts took him to a very high mountain and showed him Nationwide and all its splendor.

"All this I will give you," he said, "if you will lay down and block for me." -Jackets 15:16



It looks like a mutant Richmond with a less curved frontstretch.

Elitist Bitch
Sep 13, 2007





As a NASCAR fan living on the west coast my choices are currently three poo poo ovals and a road course. I am so loving here for this.

mischief
Jun 3, 2003


Have they said what will be done with the rest of the property?

Strip mall? Mass grave?

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.

Grimey Drawer

mischief posted:

Have they said what will be done with the rest of the property?

Strip mall? Mass grave?

They are accepting bids from secret societies around the globe to erect a massive and terrifying edifice hand-crafted from slabs of onyx. It will be a ziggurat, spire or obelisk with the word BOOGITY carved into it 10 million times.

Or maybe a hotel-casino.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post



mischief posted:

Have they said what will be done with the rest of the property?

Strip mall? Mass grave?

Its built on the land of the old Kaiser steel mill, that made the steel for the liberty ships in WW2. The land was basically considered unusable because of the decades of dumping slag and chemicals all over the place. Part of the deal with the EPA to build the track was that they would essentially plastic over the entire yard to prevent all the horrible poo poo in the ground from leeching up, then dump a comical amount of dirt on top of it all.

Normally I would say theres no way the EPA would let you build commercial or residential stuff on that site, but with now-a-days EPA, I'm pretty sure nobody would give a gently caress as long as you bribed the right folks.

dennyk
Jan 2, 2005

Cheese-Buyer's Remorse


Cygni posted:

now-a-days EPA

Yep, the Environmental Profiteering Agency would definitely be all for some Superfund mixed-use developments.

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003



It‘ll be a playground

CactusWeasle
Aug 1, 2006
It's not a party until the bomb squad says it is

"This site used to be a toxic waste dump"

"Meh"

It also used to be the site of California Speedway

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CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Again, Torts took him to a very high mountain and showed him Nationwide and all its splendor.

"All this I will give you," he said, "if you will lay down and block for me." -Jackets 15:16



Jimmie's off to IndyCar on a limited road/street course schedule the next two years with Ganassi, but the interesting part is he may run select Cup races for them as well:
https://twitter.com/AP_Sports/statu...5715087360?s=20

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