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Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Squizzle posted:

there is a big response trying to address a buncha things directly, as clearly as possible, and as fully as possible, being worked on now

This is not what people have been asking for over the past several hours and you (as in the moderators, not you specifically) know that for a fact.

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Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

actually fyad took so long to close because it was the nesting ground for a group of rare spotted nazis and their removal had to be coordinated with the fish and wildlife service

lol

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Just wanted to point out, the mods had enough time to probate people for "re-opening gassed threads", talk about how great PPJ is as a person and all the nazi hunting and suicide saving acts he's done, change the title of CSPAM, tell us about a big announcement post that is coming soon, and making other announcements about various other stuff...



but can't find the time to address any of the issues people have raised or have a dialogue about why things have gone the way they have.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Main Paineframe posted:

if the last couple weeks have shown anything, it's that no one will actually be happy with this unless it results in the admins saying "you're right, sorry, we were wrong about everything"

plenty of IKs, mods, and even the occasional admin or two have come into threads like this over the last couple of weeks to give their thoughts and justifications and positions. yet the threads are still happening. so clearly this isn't really a lack of communication, so much as it is people not being satisfied with the answers they get and refusing to accept the arguments given for those answers

This has been an issue going on longer than you're implying. You can tell by the numerous threads in QCS about this subject.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Scoops My Goops posted:



This is the brave nazi hunter the mods are rallying around, inciting the very Nazis he is supposed to be bravely protecting us from.

Free Benghazi 2, free the other bad bans, free me, once you come to your senses after the insuing permaban.

Bonus gun chat:



Jesus christ lol this is who is "actually a really good guy"?

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

chaleski posted:

OK now would be a really good time for PPJ to finally show his face around here and explain himself

"wow that's a lot of words"

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Lowtax should make a Stephen Lynch parody song called "I modded a nazi"

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Koalas March posted:

I didn't want to have to do this but gently caress it.
Jones helps run a network keeping tabs on chud and Nazi goons. I know some of those people/goons who assist in this, but I am with holding their name(s) for very obvious reasons. Jones has personally come to me with evidence of neonazis doxxing me, skoll in particular, threatening me and telling each other to do poo poo like take pictures of my house, mail me stuff etc. Whenever something heats up off-site and I might be in danger, Jones tells me. I have gigs of data sent to me by Jones whole he was collecting info on them. I've known this for a long, long time. I know which discords he is in and the people he is monitoring in those discords. I know that this info has been collecting over time was/is used to help keep the GDN chud and Nazi free.

I'm doing my best not to be really disheartened by this, but yeah. That's what I know.

What does posting and laughing at gore porn from Brazil do to achieve this goal of his on that discord?

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ogianres posted:

even if you take it at face value that he was hunting nazis the last couple of months should make it abundantly clear he loving sucked at it for our userbase

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Koalas March posted:

I didn't want to have to do this but gently caress it.
Jones helps run a network keeping tabs on chud and Nazi goons. I know some of those people/goons who assist in this, but I am with holding their name(s) for very obvious reasons. Jones has personally come to me with evidence of neonazis doxxing me, skoll in particular, threatening me and telling each other to do poo poo like take pictures of my house, mail me stuff etc. Whenever something heats up off-site and I might be in danger, Jones tells me. I have gigs of data sent to me by Jones whole he was collecting info on them. I've known this for a long, long time. I know which discords he is in and the people he is monitoring in those discords. I know that this info has been collecting over time was/is used to help keep the GDN chud and Nazi free.

I'm doing my best not to be really disheartened by this, but yeah. That's what I know.

Mekchu posted:

What does posting and laughing at gore porn from Brazil do to achieve this goal of his on that discord?

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

It's become abundantly clear that the actual situation is "Mods kept a known nazi on the crew so they could watch each others' backs and protect themselves"


This reminds me of how the EVE goons kept a guy around who they knew, and who even admitted on SA to doxxing people they fought against in the video game to "keep goons safe"

Note: Evilweasel was part of that EVE goons crew too, lol

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Indeed. Blowing up a legit informant over cspam drama makes it actively harder to fight nazis on this site. I'm sure that sounds ridiculous but as more and more community interactions happen on discord, we rely on information from folks in those discords to help prevent planned abuse such as this. A month ago, everyone was *begging* us to do something about doxxing - this is what doing something about doxxing looks like. We don't control offsite poo poo and need folks in those spaces if we're to be anything but blind. The mod forum frequently discusses and permabans people from hateful offsite places because we want to prevent them from negatively influencing the forums. On multiple occasions I've personally done it based directly on information nazi alt accounts from PPJ.

What did posting and laughing at Brazilians being killed do to help out the nazis on SA?

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
So for real, what about posting and laughing at Brazilians being murdered on video helped keep SA from nazis when we had weeks of "STOP POSTING BIGOTED poo poo YOU IDIOTS" announcements by the admins?

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Lol

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Party Plane Johnny English

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

really queer Christmas posted:

Ppj rips off his mask revealing ppj underneath

CPAM....IT WAS ME CSPAM....IT WAS ME ALL ALONG!!!

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Hey Jeffrey (or any mod/admin)

Feel free to PM me how posting gore porn and mocking Brazilians for it helped save SA from the nazi threat. I'm 100% curious how the two work together to achieve that goal.

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Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Suddenly having a guy who denied genocides as an admin make sense when we discovered a mod posted ironically on a nazi discord.

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