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InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
All I know is that a :sweden: sub got a really good shot on a US carrier in training a couple of years ago.

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InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
https://twitter.com/Ongaunited/status/1263004650149687296?s=19

B1s and Gripens in :sweden:

That's a first btw. We've had 52s before.

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
Like that the navy guys talk finlandssvenska and the rest finnish. Nice touch.

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
Gripen gripenning (aka fun times at the job):

https://twitter.com/stridspiloterna/status/1276831639079997440?s=19

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
https://twitter.com/fighterpics/status/1286712924807954433?s=09

Mamma mia!

(Italian dude does a Maverick tower buzz)

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
Time lapse of day 1 of Desert Storm air ops. Might have missed if already posted but pretty cool if you haven't seen it.

https://youtu.be/zxRgfBXn6Mg

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008

ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

The SAAB JA-37 Viggen had exactly this since the '80s.

The Jakt-Viggen autopilot not being very gentle with the course corrections is why pilots described the experience as "a very bumpy ride but very very effective".

Anyone done the reverse? Hold trigger, plane goes brrrt or swoosh when firing solution presents itself?

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
:sweden: increases readiness in Baltic Sea.

https://twitter.com/akihheikkinen/status/1297961613710983169?s=19

Moving (some more) troops to Gotland and also stepping up sea/air. Not exercise btw.

Corold War?

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
Gripens cuddling:

https://twitter.com/GripenNews/status/1317221898254753792?s=19

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
Propellers/rotors. F15 big. Gripen tiny. There seem to be more and more of this going on lately. 352 spec ops on nordic vacation. :sweden:

https://twitter.com/stridspiloterna/status/1327329050810064896?s=19

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008

Murgos posted:

You probably book your own travel, like I do, and I spend some extra time finding the best hotel with government rates rather than just taking the one at the top of the list from whatever travel tool your organization uses.

This is the way you do it.

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008

brains posted:

... excellent depth charge nuke post ...

Still, the problem persists knowing that you have an enemy sub in the vincinity in the first place? And also to a lesser extent making sure you don't have any of your own around.

Sea is a big place and if the goal is to nuke every 10 square miles of it between Murmansk and Nova Scotia that's a lot of boats and bombs.

Probably was a plan for it though.

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008

Non

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
Twitter says Russia pulls out of Open Skies.

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008

Arglebargle III posted:

Bit rude to the sea critters

As long as you do it in the same place every time it wouldn't be that bad. :shrug:

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
CV90 porn anyone?
https://twitter.com/BAESHagglunds/status/1352603122313658373?s=09

I seem to remember there being a few IFV projects ongoing. Are we looking at a new generation compared to CV90s, Bradleys et al or just evolution?

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008

Arglebargle III posted:

A champion at the apex of the spectrum, the pinnacle of the field.

Of course :sweden:

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
Chunky 16 is way more sexy than skinny. Just sayin.

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
Are tacnukes "gone"? Even airdropped stuff? I had the impression that it was the short range missiles that was the big issue.

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
Thanks guys. So tacs are around in airdropped form but not on missiles if I understand correctly. Which was my understanding.

When it comes to conventional weapons. It seems to be hard (like in chemistry hard) to get a bigger boom in a smaller package that actually goes boom when you want it to and not when it decides to.

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
Whats the smallest flying thing we could fit a 57 to? Good for both aerial and ground targets. Cheapish rounds.

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
Mosquito did it all didnt it? Cool plane.

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
I'm partial but the Boforses/BAE 57s are cool guns. A57 Super Thunderbolt anyone?

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008

babyeatingpsychopath posted:

Thought experiment. We want a device that's "relatively" cheap and uses COTS parts. Let's say we're going with a 1m foam flying wing. Couple of GPS chips and a set of single-board computers (pi compute module 4, say, with two cameras per) to get a 360° view of your environment. I've seen some off-the-shelf libraries for drones that let them keep flying for a few minutes with a GPS outage, based on viewing the environment to keep the drift on the IMU way down in angular terms, if not displacement. If you have separate compute for the "target identification" camera then the displacement doesn't matter so much as "fly towards target" should be all that you really want once it's been ID'd.

This seems like it should be able to get you a kilo or two to within a few dozen meters of something you've seen before for on the order of a thousand bucks. Not particularly spectacular, true, but if you can dump, say, 50 of them at a time for the cost of a "real" cruise missile your CEP doesn't matter too too much.

Defeating the thing? Idunno. Cannons perhaps. Directed energy seems the best bet. Is there any publicly available information about microwave wavelength weapons that could just fry the thing at range?

That is probably doable. But doing it in a way that makes it transportable, fieldable, Schmuckatellisafe etc seems to be harder?

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008

Sagebrush posted:

He wants a machine that measures the distance to the aircraft and adjusts the time fuse on the shell accordingly.

Isnt that exactly what the 3P shells for the 40 and 57 are about?

https://youtu.be/rldn9Hvzih4

Boat in this case but you get the idea.

edit:
USS Detroit shooting drones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Giuh7bOHmI

InAndOutBrennan fucked around with this message at 10:24 on Feb 1, 2021

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
The question is do the US sit out and get isolated or fight on somoene elses soil and dont.

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008

fartknocker posted:

I’m in favor of a USS Ellen Ripley and/or USS Bill Paxton.

This

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008

MRC48B posted:

Bring back the Shangri-La you cowards.

Remember the Maine!

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008

madeintaipei posted:

Swedes fight until the last Finn, etc.

Well, considering the Finns have been Swedish more than anything else its not an unreasonable assumption.

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008

Potato Salad posted:


I used to have safety training material pointing out 22LR is the cause of more death in the US than any other round by virtue of sheer popularity, though larger rounds are proportionally deadlier. The point was that students ought to treat even a small gun with due respect because anything going that fast can kill you if you're lax.

Lemme go see if I can dig up that source.

Cheap and plinkable and also prone to new shooter looks down barrel?

I'm brought up on rifles and took a hand gun intro course recently and was a bit surprised on the very low focus on the manual safety. I can see where they come from but still.

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008

Raenir Salazar posted:

Finland is ostensibly neutral, as is Sweden, so St. Petersberg can only be threatened by the sea along a narrow front which is easier to defend.

Not sure anyone would consider us neutral these days. Putin surely doesn't. "Not in alliance" would probably be a better term. Last big exercise we had B52s practicing over :sweden: coastal waters.

We recently escorted B1 flyovers. SOF practice up north etc etc. Hardly a day goes by without some strange US plane landing somewhere.

https://youtu.be/UCe96rHIQTY
Rangers training with Swedish home guard (voluntary, off active duty units).

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008

Collateral Damage posted:

Do airlines pay countries for crossing their airspace?

Read somewhere that at least in the case of Belarus they do. Have no idea of rest of world. But let's guess that it's a tangled web of country of origin and trade agreements? 🤷🏼‍♂️

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
A pretty good take on the Russian claims of warning-bombing the Defender:
https://www.greatpower.us/p/hms-defender-goes-for-a-pleasure

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008

Tias posted:

Came across this gem about why Swedish soldiers are insane (as always,really) due to their peculiar brand of cold war command culture:

https://thestrategybridge.org/the-b...549hYu1jSbEOZPA

Not sure what's available in english but Ulf Henricsson and everyone involved did some really crazy and good poo poo.

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
Pretty sure the answer is going to be "just post" but one of the guys on the ground in Vares wrote a series of blog posts and later a book about the whole hosed up affair. If there's interest I could translate at least parts of it (the posts not the loving book).

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
Ok, there seems to be more words than I remember so I'll do this in stages.

All credits to Magnus Ernström. Original text and more here:
https://morgonsur.wordpress.com/stupni_do/

Also, English not first language.

Stupni Do, part 1:
"I served during the autumn of 93 as acting squad leader, also as heavy machine gunner in the Swedish UN forces, guard and escort platoon. At the end of September our light armored vehicle and a platoon from the 10th mechanized infantry company was scrambled from the Tuzla area.

The goal was to reinforce the 8th mechanized infantry company in Vares, in the south part of the Swedish operating area. This after a number of armored vehicles in the area had been involved in fighting HVO units. The 8th's camp had also been subject to attack from HVO forces.

The atmosphere in Vares was aggressive and very threatening. No civilians moved outside and we were always very close to losing control of the situation, if there even was any control to begin with. It was us, a couple of 100 :sweden:, vs a Croatian brigade.

Units from the Swedish battalion had been regularly, and were still, subject to ambushes from "unknown" soldiers. Sometimes we shot back. The whole situation was a balancing act on a slack line. Most of the SISU vehicles had one or more tires that was taken from less prioritized vehicles, the tires had been blown up or shot in such high numbers that we were out of reserves.

Here and there in Vares and the surrounding areas houses were on fire. From one of the battalion OPs you could see a larger fire on the slopes above Vares. It looked like a whole village was on fire. Croatian forces blocked all roads and refused to let anyone get close to the Village.

The relationship between the Croatian forces and the Swedish battalion was as previously mentioned far from good. But up until now there had been no "formal" confrontations. Entering the village would change that and mean open engagement with HVO. We were around 100 soldiers and lacked reinforcements that could support within a reasonable amount of time and we faced the whole Croatian Bobovac brigade.

A refugee made it to the Nordbat camp and told us that the people in the village had been subject to horrible abuse. The name of the village was Stupni Do. There was also a rumor that around 40 people had escaped and fled to a forest a couple of km from the village, in the middle of the front line. Supposedly they tried to get to the Bosnian part of the front."

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
Ok, there seems to be more words than I remember so I'll do this in stages.

All credits to Magnus Ernström. Original text and more here:
https://morgonsur.wordpress.com/stupni_do/

Also, English not first language.

Stupni Do, part 1
Stupni Do, part 2:

"Together with battalion commander Ulf Henricsson and a few additional members of his staff we drove away in our SISU to try to find the refugees. It was dark, houses were on fire around us as we headed for the front. We needed to negotiate passage through a couple of HVO checkpoints during the drive.

We used night vision gear to search for the refugees but couldn't find them. We suspected we had localized the area where they might be. It was an eerie cemetery up on a steep mountain slope. We didn't see anyone and couldn't do much alone in the darkness, so we returned to the camp for a few hours of sleep.

In the camp all available personnel were assigned to firing positions. 8th Mech Inf camp was situated in a valley between high mountains and was a nightmare to defend against attacks or snipers. A letter had been delivered during the day with threats to attack the camp. It was freezing cold, the only thing not freezing was the mud. There was heavy fog that limited the visibility to 50 meters.

Early in the morning we tried again to support the refugees. This time we brought two medical SISUs and one additional armed Guard/Escort SISU. Commanding officer was Major Daniel Ekberg. We negotiated us through a couple of check points and returned to the place we had been the night before. We stopped in a narrow valley and used our signal horns and our interpreter Rudi Ekenheim used a megaphone to explain that we were from UNPROFOR and there to help. Nothing happened. If the refugees really were there, they were to afraid to show themselves. 20 minutes went by and we needed to leave soon, if the HVO would find us we would be in a very bad spot.

Right as we had given up hope we heard cries for help from the forest. One by one 25 cold, shocked remnants of people approach us. One woman had died during the night, but we could not bring her body so we needed to leave her body there.

A woman in her early 20s cried and hugged Ekenheim. She had been made to watch when her family was murdered. Her boyfriend was on crutches from a previous injury and she was made to watch when they murdered him. If she shed a single tear she would be killed too. After this she was raped and thrown into a house together with some other people from the village and the house was set on fire."

e: url fuckery

InAndOutBrennan fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Jul 5, 2021

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
Stephen Fry wrote a book about removing Hitler from the equation. Result is that the competent, good looking and charming guy that dies saving Adolf in WWI takes up the reigns instead.

Making History. Good read.

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
https://twitter.com/SofiGaming/status/1424109003286646793?s=19

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InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008
Might be the helo is trying to clear the taxi way BLM-style.

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