Big Mean Jerk posted:

New shows are now distributed by CBS and streaming on CBS All Access (US), Amazon (UK), Netflix (UK), and others (you international folks will have to help me out here).

MikeJF posted:

I think that's where it's going to go, but to me some of the greatest part of the idealism of Star Trek is that we might somehow make it to wisdom as a civilisation working together. That acts of idealism and morality aren't necessarily limited to heroes and individuals and small-scale stories, but something that we could collectively achieve together. Cast off the cynical idea that society must be a crushing, corrupted amoral machine dragging all of us down which must be defied if we want to do right, and instead present the idea that together we could build a civilisation to be proud of, one that could face times of darkness and struggle through while keeping ahold of its values and fight off the parts of itself that want to compromise them.

The idea that idealism isn't something that can survive except on small scales as individual acts, that the collective whole will end up falling to selfishness, is itself something I'd consider pretty sad and grim.

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

Disagree, problems all start and stop with the producers.

HD DAD posted:

I’ve said it before, but Disco excels when it’s just being Weird As Hell™, as opposed to attempting some kind of epic, melodramatic tale.

Like, when the ship half-phased into mushroom space to revive a dead guy? Give me an IV of that poo poo straight into my veins.

zoux posted:

Well he's not going to be the showrunner for season 2, but he's remaining on as EP.

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Discovery is fine if you don’t go in determined to hate it, hth.

These threads routinely recognize that the first ~30-40 episodes of almost every Star Trek series are the weakest. Discovery has only done 29 episodes thus far and has had to deal with a revolving door of creatives and showrunners, including a creator that delayed the series by an entire year over stupid loving costuming choices before being unceremoniously fired. Discovery will be fine once it has a stable creative team behind it for an entire season.

HD DAD posted:

The same is happening to Disco. Season 2 was largely a reaction to season 1 criticism.

Drone posted:

John de Lancie as an old-rear end version of Q is gonna be an interesting shoehorn.

MikeJF posted:

Yeah, my biggest issue with the Disco theme, or the music that plays over the opening, anyway, is that it fails the whistle test. You can't whistle or hum it. There's no melody.

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A series of unconnected Star Trek references set to musical wallpaper that's sprinkled with familiar echoes but never actually develops into its own melody.

Timby posted:

Doesn't change the fundamental flaw, in that the Crossfield class is based on McQuarrie's rejected Enterprise design from Planet of the Titans, and it's loving awful.

MikeJF posted:

This one?



Honestly, even putting the TOS-ificiation aside, the secondary hull being a V shape is just much better in terms of overall look.

MikeJF posted:

Eh, probably a different one, there's a billion of them.

pyrotek posted:

Does this even count as spoiler? Supposedly they just use the TNG theme, no changes.

Edit: They should have the credit sequence should be the same as TNG, but with Picard's face in place of the Enterprise.

Does anybody know why there aren't any reviews for Picard? Is it embargoed, or did they not screen it for critics? I don't remember what they did with critics for Discovery season 1.

You can get a one month instead of one week CBS All Access trial until the 27th with promo code JANUARY.

Hipster_Doofus posted:

Well if you throw out all the 10s and 1s it looks good. You could even throw out the 9s.

Lizard Combatant posted:

I gotta say though, I am excited for Picard. If for nothing else than its moving into uncharted territory. I have major reservations about a lot of the creatives behind it, but at the same time anything is possible. I hope to be pleasantly surprised.

Tighclops posted:

Is there actually anybody around here that doesn't want to be pleasantly surprised? I mean I thought it went without saying

kidkissinger posted:

Where in the world are you that it's the 24th???

pyrotek posted:

Bruce Maddox has a theory that Data's entire code, including of his memory can be reconstituted from a single positron neuron? OK... that seems like a stretch.

kidkissinger posted:

"enhance... enhance... enhance..."

pyrotek posted:

Reviews of the first three episodes suggest exactly that.

Brawnfire posted:

I can't wait to watch this, all these black blocks of spoiler are too tempting.

Drone posted:

The Daystrom Institute character is pretty cool too and I already know more about her after one episode than I do about like half of the Discovery regulars.

Lizard Combatant posted:

teacup posted:

Is there an official word on when this hits Australian amazon prime?

Hipster_Doofus posted:

So far not one person in this thread has panned this or even said "meh," not even Tighclops. This bodes well.

Also the imdb ratings for episode one dayum...

Binary Logic posted:

Not gonna be the first to criticize because I loved every minute of it.

Binary Logic posted:

Anyone in this thread watch Treadstone?
The scene with Dahj and her bf chilling in their apartment and then "She's activating!" was really similar to Treadstone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaAa_Pw6m-M

PowerBuilder3 posted:

I liked the Golden Gate Bridge turned into a solar farm.

Masses of flying cars? Is that from the JJ Trek movies? Why when you have transporters.

No synthectics, but isn't that AI assistant the same thing with no body? You'd think they'd outlaw all AI as an "evil" AI in computers could do more damage than robots running around.

zoux posted:

Why would anyone on earth shop at a ferengi establishment

Arglebargle III posted:

Anyone else get the sense that Stewart's just playing himself here? I don't really see Picard.

large_gourd posted:

In All Good Things, PIcard had lost that reserve too. He was quick to anger and a bit out of it, I think because he had some kind of disease which there's been no mention of in this, but yeah I think it's fine that he's a bit different. It's been over 20 years since Nemesis in this, and people change when they get old.

His accent is a bit different, I think that's the main thing showing up on people's radar. He's using more of his natural accent than the adopted upper class English he did in TNG. Not all of it, but it's there.

Binary Logic posted:

"Do you really believe that there's some stored up conflict that exists between us? There is no us. We don't exist. So who do you wanna hit, man? It's not me. Now whaddya wanna do here, man?"

zoux posted:

In the Expanse, which I assume everyone itt watches but I shall spoil it nevertheless Mars is a powerful colony which had built a planetary identity and moral ethic around terraforming, seeing it as building something for their grandchildren. Moses seeing but not going to the promised land so to speak. So when they find all these extra-solar and easily reached habitable worlds due to alien magic, it utterly bodies the Martians, just sucks the character and purpose out of the colony, because why waste all this time and effort, why suffer so to build a habitable world 2, 3, 400 years down the line when you can just go thorugh the gates to a nice, pre-terraformed world. So while it's never really stated that way, it seems like the same dynamic would make sense in the ST universe, and really any universe in which FTL travel + galactic colonization is invented before Mars can be terraformed

HD DAD posted:

I’d spend 80 hours a week transporting to mexican restaurants around the world to eat their free chips and salsa but not order anything else

Drone posted:

Mad About Hugh

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

What kind of poker are they playing in the opening scene of Picard? I've been wanting to learn more variations of poker and I've never seen one where the players asks for cards