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William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



I will spit in the mouth (or other orifices maybe, we can talk about it) of anyone who'd like me to.

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McGurk
Oct 20, 2004

Cuz life sucks, kids. Get it while you can.

poverty goat posted:

there are already goons in self-quarantine

but what about the virus?

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


poverty goat posted:

there are already goons in self-quarantine

But enough about our normal Friday nights... :smith:

dangle 4 days
Mar 4, 2020

by Reene
the message came from the same source as my diabetes clinic reminders, its not even a number one can text/call its QLDHEALTH very official

nice knowing you all

Myriarch
May 14, 2013


It's just a chocolate bar with peanuts that now has ice cream. Kinda disappointed, I thought 'slab' was a descriptor, not a brand reference

dangle 4 days
Mar 4, 2020

by Reene
my dad now has to stay home for 2 weeks. my brother has to delay a job interview. yes i still live with family shut up rents cheap im saving up and killing debt and moving out soon

Shut up and JAM!
Sep 3, 2011
lol at vampire parents charging their own flesh and blood rent

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


Brogeoisie posted:

He will like the 30% daily increases even more I guess

Look if you never test the number will never go up. Of course that means there'll be corpses in the street but this is the US so it would be:


Zil posted:

But enough about our normal Friday nights... :smith:

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Yeah there definitely is a goon with it already.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
first goon case was prob like jan 15th or something

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

MarcusSA posted:

Yeah there definitely is a goon with it already.

Do you think it's me and the symptoms just haven't started.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

Do you think it's me and the symptoms just haven't started.

Yes.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981


That's so cool

Edgar
Sep 9, 2005

Oh my heck!
Oh heavens!
Oh my lord!
OH Sweet meats!
Wedge Regret
I am excited to catch this and spread it to my elderly 50+ year old coworkers.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

This was posted in the other thread.


https://twitter.com/LizSpecht/status/1236095180459003909

absolutely hate the way twitter does its threads but this is a good read.

TLDR we are turbo hosed by the beginning of May maybe middle of May.

frogge
Apr 7, 2006


Zil posted:

But enough about our normal Friday nights... :smith:

Went out to eat for dinner and I poo poo you not without eavesdropping practically everyone seated near us was talking about coronavirus. It's on everyone's minds. I kind of wish I had just stayed in, so then I could have just watched stuff on netflix and not been thinking about it before it gets unavoidable.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

MarcusSA posted:

This was posted in the other thread.


https://twitter.com/LizSpecht/status/1236095180459003909

absolutely hate the way twitter does its threads but this is a good read.

TLDR we are turbo hosed by the beginning of May maybe middle of May.

Counterpoint

https://twitter.com/LizSpecht/status/1236095203519287297?s=20

“I’m an engineer”

frogge
Apr 7, 2006



Counter-counterpoint:
Engineers sort of still have to know a shitload of sciencey and mathematical stuff to do their jobs, like way more than your average Joe Sixpack or Karen like us. Their field might not be specific to epidemiology but their skills at modeling or applying a methodology to a problem aren't something to be completely ignored. Same thing I say when people talk poo poo/gatekeep on Bill Nye for being an engineer, not a scientist.

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



The problem is that these models are garbage-in, garbage-out and we need actual experts to give us non-garbage input and ensure that we aren't using it incorrectly. A random engineer's best guess that glosses over important nuance is just bullshit with numbers next to it.

Anybody can do some calculations. It's doing the right calculations on the right numbers that's tricky.

Kingo Ligma
Aug 24, 2019

Ask me about calling people racist because I failed geography.

Myriarch posted:



It's just a chocolate bar with peanuts that now has ice cream. Kinda disappointed, I thought 'slab' was a descriptor, not a brand reference

It's not JUST a chocolate bar you absolute loving prick.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

Like, don't ever listen to anything an engineer says that has to do with anything outside their field. In fact, take anything they say about their own field with a large grain of salt because the majority of them are utterly worthless at their jobs, their bosses just don't know any better.

dangle 4 days
Mar 4, 2020

by Reene

Shut up and JAM! posted:

lol at vampire parents charging their own flesh and blood rent

my parents are "once youre 18 youre on your own you should be grateful we let you pay to live here" type. yeah um it isnt nice.

i hand over 200 a fortnight which, is pretty cheap but whatever. they get REALLY lovely if i even imply i want to give them less.

i still get poo poo about being a waste of space and "stealing from them by continuing to exist here". loving, im moving out asap. i got poo poo to handle first.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Achmed Jones posted:

The problem is that these models are garbage-in, garbage-out and we need actual experts to give us non-garbage input and ensure that we aren't using it incorrectly. A random engineer's best guess that glosses over important nuance is just bullshit with numbers next to it.

Anybody can do some calculations. It's doing the right calculations on the right numbers that's tricky.

She was using Italy’s numbers which look to be the most accurate ( that we have now).

Good luck getting any real good numbers out of any government at this point they all seem to be doing a pretty good job of loving this up one way or another.

dangle 4 days
Mar 4, 2020

by Reene
i'm 24, i have lived out of home a lot since i was 17-22 but had to come back home when my mental health hosed me+my landlord was an absolute piece of poo poo. rn theyre pleasant with me since i kicked drugs a month back but that attitude never lasts. they will find something i'm doing wrong and get on my rear end about it.

maybe theyll get corona and ill inherit this piece of poo poo house full of hoarded junk idfk

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


I mean, it does look as if you can shut the virus down if you basically shut down the country. I don't see Trump doing that though. That leaves the virus pretty free rein in the US. The US is also really poorly set up for a public health emergency which is likely to leave a large slice of the workforce deep in the shitter. That is going to leave all sorts of bits of society and the economy going straight down the drain.

Her estimate of 2000 currently infected is probably low. The Washington State community infection case alone indicates a probable 600 cases nearly a week ago: https://bedford.io/blog/ (or we could be very very lucky and it was the very bottom of the estimated range at 20 but I don't think we live in that friendly a world)

The US is already acting like a bit of a global Typhoid Mary (infectious and in denial just as she was). I wonder where in the US that Australian doctor who was infected traveled into Australia from.

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

There was a coronavirus patient at the hospital both of my grandparents were visiting two days ago. They're both not in the best of shape and there's no family around that could care for them. This loving sucks.

dangle 4 days
Mar 4, 2020

by Reene
i might message my grandma but she'll get really worried if i tell her i was exposed. shes 83 this year. dunno ill think about it

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Munin posted:


Her estimate of 2000 currently infected is probably low.

I 100% agree with this. Especially since LA county isn’t even bothering to test people.

LAX is a huge entry point so assuming there are only 6(?) cases in LA is laughable at best.

I mean for fucks sakes you already have two screeners infected and they were supposed to be the first line of defense.

Also I know for a fact that the CDC screeners weren’t all wearing PPE because when I came through the international customs area on Feb 15th I saw a CDC guy ( he was wearing the vest) walking around with no PPE escorting a couple back to the check point.

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if the US deaths are currently under-counted, not due to any conspiracy, simply because they are not being noticed.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Munin posted:

Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if the US deaths are currently under-counted, not due to any conspiracy, simply because they are not being noticed.

AFAIK WA is the only state that has tested a dead person.

No other states are gonna do that.

wilderthanmild
Jun 21, 2010

Posting shit




Grimey Drawer

Munin posted:

Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if the US deaths are currently under-counted, not due to any conspiracy, simply because they are not being noticed.

Yeah I mentioned this earlier, but our flu season spiking around the time this would have entered the US really could be masking some deaths especially considering pneumonia tends the be the fatal complication with both.

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


Munin posted:

I mean, it does look as if you can shut the virus down if you basically shut down the country. I don't see Trump doing that though. That leaves the virus pretty free rein in the US. The US is also really poorly set up for a public health emergency which is likely to leave a large slice of the workforce deep in the shitter. That is going to leave all sorts of bits of society and the economy going straight down the drain.

Her estimate of 2000 currently infected is probably low. The Washington State community infection case alone indicates a probable 600 cases nearly a week ago: https://bedford.io/blog/ (or we could be very very lucky and it was the very bottom of the estimated range at 20 but I don't think we live in that friendly a world)

The US is already acting like a bit of a global Typhoid Mary (infectious and in denial just as she was). I wonder where in the US that Australian doctor who was infected traveled into Australia from.

The only info I can find is that he became unwell on a flight from Denver to San Francisco on the 27th Feb and then he flew from SF to Melbourne on United Airlines flight UA60.

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

I don't know if I have it but I start my self-quarantine on Monday when I return home from Tokyo. I'm too much of a risk where I work. Major family tourist attraction. Lots of grandparents around and people from all over the world.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

BuckarooBanzai posted:

I was travelling in the US for two weeks mid to end of January. I was staying in a hotel during that time but spending my days and meals with people from all over the world. When I got back in February I was exhausted for the whole month. The first week I chalked it up to jetlag (I'm in Australia) but after that I was still exhausted and had no energy for exercise (I'm usually pretty athletic) so I got blood drawn and checked all the usual hormone levels that might be suspect for a middle aged guy. Everything was fine but I'm vitamin D deficient (typical goon). As February wound up I started to feel better but then came down with a really nasty cold. I've taken a week of sick leave and I'm starting to feel better, again, but what's really frustrating is absolutely nobody will test me for covid.

For what it's worth, it sounds like you probably don't have covid-19 but rather one of the nasty cold bugs that's also still spreading around.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Achmed Jones posted:

The problem is that these models are garbage-in, garbage-out and we need actual experts to give us non-garbage input and ensure that we aren't using it incorrectly. A random engineer's best guess that glosses over important nuance is just bullshit with numbers next to it.

Anybody can do some calculations. It's doing the right calculations on the right numbers that's tricky.

That's true, engineers tend to neglect uncertainty

However, the optimistic guesses of what those uncertainties are still point to total healthcare collapse if this spreads unchecked. So the engineer's conclusion, that healthcare resources are on track to be completely overwhelmed, are still very likely. And that's coincidentally also what epidemiology experts have been saying.

QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Mar 7, 2020

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
I wonder what the fact that they gave us the pango plague will mean for China

Dely Apple
Apr 22, 2006

Sing me Spanish Techno


My healthcare has a virtual care service that has an app that apparently isn't supported on an iPhone 7 Plus?

Then it says I can use Teledoc, which when I register, doesn't show the healthcare option -- despite it being directly linked from the health insurance website?

Then when you call their help line, it goes to 1998-style busy signal?


Why did I ever pick KafkaCare as my HMO

dangle 4 days
Mar 4, 2020

by Reene
i finally got the required info, i dont have to quarantine but if i feel even slightly unwell or pick up any symptoms they want 14 days of isolation

i feel pretty poo poo but like i dont think its related to this cos symptoms dont pop up this early. i think i have a regular cold

Jay_Zombie
Apr 20, 2007

We're sealing the tunnel!
Exactly how long after the population is decimated is the proper amount of time to wait before we Mad Max this poo poo up?

I guess like 2 weeks yeah? I mean, I don't want to get sick, but there's looting to do.

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Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

QuarkJets posted:

That's true, engineers tend to neglect uncertainty

However, the optimistic guesses of what those uncertainties are still point to total healthcare collapse if this spreads unchecked. So the engineer's conclusion, that healthcare resources are on track to be completely overwhelmed, are still very likely. And that's coincidentally also what epidemiology experts have been saying.

yeah if you want to smack your drat head, google search 'hospital bed acute care surplus' or something similar and be prepared to bask in all the articles from the 80s to early 2000s talking about how any surplus hospital capacity is unnecessary expenditure and a huge cost to be cut.

US hospitals now function on razor thin occupancy margins

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