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Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

So a week ago, there was a curling event in my city.... for doctors. Because it was under 250 people, it still went on. Now we’ve got cases of doctors testing positive because one of them had just come back from Las Vegas and did not self-isolate. These doctors continued to see patients, not knowing they had been exposed.

Of course, my province had a jump to 49 cases in one day, when the previous day was 27.

I hate to think how many more we’ll have today.

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Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Mnoba posted:

there isn't even any thing good out, i wouldn't go based on that alone nevermind the current global pandemic

Pretty sure he wasn’t talking about a theatre, but just watching a movie at a friend’s house.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

My father-in-law has been wanting to meet up for lunch with us for a few weeks now, but he cancelled last minute twice in a row. Now he still wants to go out, but near everywhere has shut down their dining rooms. Google maps only shows about 12 restaurants open in the entire city.

Malls are deserted though, as most stores have voluntarily closed. Perhaps we could grab lunch in a deserted mall food court. Sounds like an interesting time.

Barring that, he could just come to our place for a few minutes and drop off the documents he needs to give my husband.

Fortunately, my pregnancy ultrasound tomorrow has not been cancelled, but my husband won’t be able to be in the room with me. At least we both got to see the first ultrasound a few weeks ago together. This one is an important one for screening for chromosomal disorders, so it’s considered an essential diagnostic exam.

It’s going to be an interesting time to be pregnant...

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Dear Watson posted:

is there a reverse fever? my thermometer keeps putting me in the 95 degree zone whereas my wife is always in the 97.

Or have I already died

I’ve had reverse fevers a couple times before. My temperature was approaching hypothermic levels and it sucked. I wanted to jump in a bonfire just to get warm.

It’s one of the strangest things I’ve ever experienced, medical-wise.

Also, Alberta just announced a closure of all non-essential businesses, so it looks like I’m out of work for however long this lasts...

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Booo.... non-essential business were shut down on Friday, but I guess it’s only SOME non-essential businesses, so I still have to go to work tomorrow.

Like, our revenue has gone to poo poo and our hours have already been cut. I don’t know how my boss can justify us staying open when customers can only do curb side pickup and my boss is in the high risk category, what with being in his 60’s.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Rectal Death Adept posted:

Plenty of lead poisoned boomers are demanding that their businesses stay open. I'm being forced to go sweep floors while under a shelter in place order so we can own the panicking millennial libs that are crying like toddlers about the flu.

Oh yeah, the health and safety poster that my boss made for the front door last week telling people to not come in if they were experiencing symptoms contained “virus” in quotes because he thought it would be funny. It really just comes across as flippant.

I ended up making an outdoor mail receptacle at work last week ‘cause my boss hadn’t made one yet. I wrote on a cardboard box and drew a little crow on it saying “Stay safe from Corvid-19!” because our mailman is a longtime personal friend of mine and he “owns” a magpie with it’s own Instagram account, so I figured he would appreciate the bird pun. (And he did, and took a photo of my box and tagged me in it because he knew I made it for him.)

Actually keeping a 2 metre distance from people at work will be near impossible, as my desk is within a few feet of the main thoroughfare. My boss needs to pass within a few feet of me to get to the printers or the washrooms, so I doubt we will actually be practicing proper physical distancing tomorrow.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Chief McHeath posted:

My aunt is a loving nurse at a Veteran's Affairs facility and she shares poo poo like this on Facebook at least a few times a week.

My cousin, who has also worked as a nurse, shared all this info with family over text as an audio clip. I knew a lot of the inf had already been debunked.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

I’ve seen in my city that some nurses are wearing cloth headbands with large buttons above the ears and hooking the surgical mask straps to the buttons. Saw a postencouraging people to make them for nurses.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Play posted:

Already tons of standard medical procedures have been delayed, altered, or made completely impossible by the situation at hospitals right now. I feel awful for anyone who has a surgery scheduled or is undergoing chemo or really receiving any other treatment which requires care in a hospital

My father was waiting to be wheeled into the operating room for his knee surgery when he was told it was cancelled. Now he has to wait until next year.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Blistex posted:

I thought that soap + hot water was the key? Is soap alone good at killing the virus, or does it just rinse it off your hands and down the drain? Either way, there is still a massive volume of air in the bubble that is not coming into contact with the soap+water wall,

Water temperature doesn’t matter from what I’ve read. Soap alone will destroy the virus’s protective outer layer.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Charliegrs posted:

I wonder how much was wasted when the shutdowns began. I hope most of them at least sent home their newly unemployed workers with a big box of food from the restaurant refrigerators so at least it wouldn't go to waste. I know in my area a few restaurants are selling groceries which is real smart in my opinion. I think they have suppliers outside of what consumers can get so it makes sense to sell to the public if you can't have an open restaurant.

There was a restaurant in my city that threw out all the food and refused to let the staff take any home. They got blasted on social media afterwards. This was a restaurant where you’d easily spent over $50 on a meal.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

My uncle just started messaging me about how the meat packing plant in our province was shut down because 3 people had a cold and how this cannot go on, Bill Gates created the virus to forcibly vaccinate us all, etc...

Yeah, it’s not because 3 people had a cold. It’s because 759 workers caught Covid and one of them DIED. It’s also caused the worst outbreak in the province with over a quarter of our cases directly connected to it.

I don’t think I’ll even respond to my uncle cause it will just make me mad.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008


It’s too bad one of the trucks wasn’t able to refrigerate properly. It’s really putting a lot of pressure on funeral homes and crematories that just aren’t designed to store that many bodies. There’s a particularly big problem with New York simply not having enough crematories at the best of times because you are not allowed to have a crematory that is not attached to a cemetery. Bodies get shipped out of state to be cremated all the time.

Funeral directors have to pay out of their own pocket for the extra body storage they need and they’re taking a huge financial cut due to not being able to make money on things such as funeral services, caskets, etc...

It’s a really rough time for the funeral industry right now, and we don’t even know how dangerous it is to embalm Covid-19 victims. A medical examiner recently died of Covid-19, but it’s unclear if he contracted it from a body he worked on. Cremation is the least risky way to deal with the bodies.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Cacafuego posted:

What’s the most risky way to deal with the bodies?

Also :lol: at the idea that even in death, a corpse is still making money for people. So much so, that it is referred to as an industry. How has capitalism not yet created a disassembly line (:smuggo:) set to the tune of Powerhouse for the funerary industry to ensure the most cost effective disposal of American corpses? Surely, there’s a way to monetize that?

Well, a dead body on it’s own isn’t really a risk because bodies aren’t breathing and coughing and dispelling viral particles everywhere. But cutting them open is what can cause fluids to spray all over. Fluids that may or may not contain high levels of active virus. Embalming is the process that puts funeral workers in close contact with potential contagions. Though embalming is hazardous enough on it’s own that you practically need a hazmat suit to embalm safely anyway.

The funeral industry is frequently pretty predatory with high priced “luxury” caskets, sometimes even demanding you purchase a $5000 casket for a cremation, or some will claim it is illegal to bury a body that is not embalmed. It can be an easy to way make money off people who are grieving and are in no state to bargain.

But with the way things are right now, even basic funerals and memorial services aren’t allowed, so people can’t adequately grieve for their family members and say goodbye and that’s tragic for them.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

I've seen this claimed for at least two weeks, alongside with countless testimonies this is the weirdest pulmonary virus doctors have ever seen.

Also it seems to explain a lot of other symptoms people may have. Like the virus infecting other organs than the respiratory system. But I'm not a doctor.

I read about a recent study involving pregnant women and injury being seen in the placentas of Covid-19 positive patients after giving birth. The babies all seemed fine and healthy, but the placentas were damaged, which would impact blood flow from mother to baby. It’s being cited as a reason to monitor pregnant women more closely.

It seems that a vascular illness makes sense if it’s causing injury to placentas.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

coronavirus posted:

What does Maternal deaths mean on that chart? Death during childbirth? Or is this some catholic bullshit

I believe maternal deaths would include death during childbirth or due to pregnancy complications, such as ectopic pregnancy, preeclampsia, placental abruption, etc...

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Another Bill posted:

https://twitter.com/CTVCalgary/status/1281607524328910848

Alberta's real bad y'all


tl;dr they're trying to backdoor healthcare privatization during the pandemic, and 42% of doctors said "gently caress you we're leavin" Oh and that health minister and his wife are part owners of a private health insurance company. And the health minister showed up at a doctors house to yell at them from the front lawn because the doctor called him out on twitter.

The amount of damage the UCP government has done in such a short time is outstanding. Let’s tear up doctor’s contracts and make huge cuts to healthcare. Let’s spend money tearing down a super lab because no one really needs medical labs. Let’s make massive cuts to education (except for Christian schools). Let’s take people’s pensions. Let’s make cuts to the Child Benefit Program. Let’s make cuts to the disability program. Let’s get rid of a bunch of provincial parks and sell the land to private companies. Let’s try to privatize healthcare during a pandemic because America’s system works sooooo well. Let’s donate our PPE to other provinces and give our own healthcare workers lovely PPE that gives them rashes and falls apart and is genuinely unsafe. Let’s funnel a whoooole bunch of money into oil, coal and a “war room.” Let’s also give a bunch of money to my rich corporate friends overseas.

Literally taking money from children, the sick and the elderly. It’s disgusting.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Scaramouche posted:

You forget the reason for those cuts, a heavily reliant resource extraction economy that the bottom fell out of. If only there was some sovereign savings thing they could have kept from the boom years. We could call it... a heritage fund!

Or maybe by having some sort of... sales tax. At the provincial level.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Picnic Princess posted:

My city announced last night that masks will be mandatory inside all public buildings starting August 1.

Also my great aunt passed away from covid last week.

I went back to work 3 weeks ago and lasted 3 days before quitting because customers were being horrible and I was expected to be out interacting with them to push sales to cover for the losses during shut down.

I'm happy to continue to stay isolated, Alberta has the highest per capita infection rate in Canada now and I don't trust anyone out there.

Sorry about your Aunt. :(

I really wish Edmonton would implement the same measures, but I doubt that will happen until we get 500+ active cases.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Rat posted:

Anyway, back to COVID-19 stuff. My province finally is allowing people to get an account to the results online without needing to wait 10 business days for a mailed security code. There is a free electronic health records service to access COVID-19 results. You used to have to wait for the mailed code to verify the account. So lots of folks weren't finding that very useful. Going to make life easier for folks and work easier for us :)

Any Alberta-based goons who want to know about getting COVID-19 results online PM me. We should all be signed up, we're all going to be tested for a long time

I heard about that. I had to wait for a mailed security code so I could sign in and complete my maternity benefits. It’s so dumb.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Picnic Princess posted:

Okay so

We're at 1800 new cases a day and it keeps climbing.

1 in 250 people currently have the virus.

1 in 70 have tested positive since the beginning of March.

They claim the data shows most transmission comes from in-home gatherings so that's banned and almost all business are allowed to still be open.

Then they go and say 82% of cases had unidentifiable sources. A couple weeks ago that percentage was 63%.

They claim we'll have a significant drop in another week due to banning in-home gatherings, but if they don't know how the vast majority of infections were spread, will we?

I mean, if it does, cool. But I'm not so sure you have the best data set to be working from.

Yeah, it sucks that indoor gatherings are straight out banned instead of limited, all while retail, restaurants, bars and casinos remain open. And the whole “25%” max capacity means there’s no longer people checking the door. Fire code limits are huge in places like stores and they rarely reach 25% on even the busiest days. It seems like it’s a “restriction” when it’s really not one at all.

I’m glad there’s an exemption for childcare though, so I was able to have my mom come over today to watch the baby while I went to an ultrasound appointment and my husband worked from home. He had a lot of meetings and couldn’t look after our 7 week old. Grandma was happy for any time she could spend with her grand baby. Due to Covid, none of my extended family has met the baby (nor even my dad or sister) and most of them didn’t get to see me for my entire pregnancy. I don’t know if my 93 year old Oma will even get to live long enough to meet her only great granddaughter. :(

Apparently, some areas of rural Alberta have mask orders now and people are pissed about it. Small towns are filled with aggressive anti-maskers talking about getting their guns and shooting anyone who tries to tell them to wear a mask. :/

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

I am all for vaccine passports and cards for people unable to get vaccinated. Let the vaccinated enjoy restaurants and movie theatres again.

I’m still waiting for when I’ll be allowed to get vaccinated. I’m thinking my husband and I shouldn’t get our shots on the same day just in case we both get flu-like symptoms. It would suck if we both felt like hell and still had to take care of a baby.

Apparently an aunt of mine who’s a phys ed teacher just tested positive and a young cousin of mine is really sick with it too.

Nessa fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Apr 5, 2021

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Ugh, my uncle is trying to argue with me over Facebook about how masks, social distancing and quarantining don’t work to stop the spread of the virus and that the vaccines aren’t effective. He even claims that spreading it asymptomatically isn’t a thing.

Which is why it is fine and good for churches to remain open against public health orders and “submitting” to these orders makes me ignorant of the government taking away our rights and freedoms in an effort to control us.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Buff Hardback posted:

the best way i've found is to literally just not engage

"someone says something casually racist"
"no one laughs or says 'don't do that', they just let the stupid hang in the air"

Yeah, I really should have just walked away.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

greazeball posted:

there's a ban on gatherings of more than 5-10 people.

Where I’m at in Alberta, there’s a ban on all indoor gatherings that’s been in place since before Christmas. Fortunately, there’s exemptions for people who live alone and for childcare, so I’ve still been able to see my mom and my father in law, but that’s been about it.

We’re friends with a younger guy in college and it’s been rough on him since school is online and he lives with his brother and sister in law who he doesn’t get along with. If he only got his own apartment back in the summer like he was planning, he’d be able to hang out with us as someone who lives alone. He decided to save his money though.

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Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Ugly In The Morning posted:

There are a lot, LOT of stupid nurses, just like most fields have stupid people. An urgent care LPN isn’t going to have critical patients or likely even hear directly about them since they don’t really interact with ER/ICU nurses and is also exactly the demographic that will buy into the essential oils thing and other woo bullshit.

Oh god there were so many of those at the urgent care I worked at briefly. So many.

Yup. I heard through the grapevine that a former nurse friend of mine has been flippant about the whole pandemic and saying everyone should just get sick, it’s just the flu. She was also gathering with large groups of people the entire time.

Nurses can be particularly bad because they know just enough about medicine to think they’re infallible. There are some great nurses out there for sure, but the bad ones can be remarkably so.

My husband works for the College of Registered Nurses and the organization has fortunately been really cautious about Covid. He’s been working from home for over a year now with no plans for opening the office again anytime soon.

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