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This is getting boring. What's the ETA until we all start panicking about the warm season's disease porn that will Definitely Be The Stand This Time For Real Guys, No Seriously? I hope it's another chapter of the West Nile!
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Pretty sure the actual infection rate is like 1000x what's being reported because people either don't/won't go to the doctor, cause there's no way something this contagious is popping up in larger cities in the dozens instead of thousands which means the fatality rate is a fraction of the reported number which means people can stop buying all the loving toilet paper at the store, please
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Feb 28, 2020 10:03
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I am extremely glad my wife and I moved to asia like 2 weeks ago, this was our best timing on a decision yet
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Feb 28, 2020 13:07
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Raccooon posted:We sure this thing only has a 2% mortality rate lol. About a zillion people have probably had it and not reported it, so the death rate is probably way less than 2% But the internet hasn't had good panic porn in a while so here we are.
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Feb 28, 2020 14:33
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this does show that when a genuinely scary and deadly disease shows up in a decade or two, we're 100% unprepared and will crumble in a month
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Feb 29, 2020 00:24
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Charlz Guybon posted:6 dead out of 705 sick on the diamond princess and 36 still in serious condition. That's .08% at least and should be taken as the minimum. Everyone on that ship's been tested so we know that there isn't under reporting there. .08 is way less than 2 which is kind of my point, and cruise ships tend to have disproportionately large clusters of olds
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Feb 29, 2020 02:26
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For what it's worth, here in Japan it's a weird mix of reactions. You see more people in masks than usual, but still a lot without - due to choice or lack of access, who knows. Schools closing for 2 weeks seems more like Shinzo getting pressured to "DO SOMETHING!!!" by panicky people than anything else, and I'm not surprised Disney and some other places followed suit. The rumor mill is working nonstop about the Olympics, but there's a massive investment there but financially and in terms of Appearances...so I don't think they'd cut it, at least not from the Japanese side (I suppose the Olympics themselves could also make that decision). I also expect that by then, this whole hubbub will be long since over. Normal businesses don't appear affected, busy areas are still busy, all transport is still crowded and normal. I don't see any glares or wariness if someone coughs somewhere. Masks are sold out everywhere, but everything else appears in good supply - despite occasional rumors hitting social media about this or that being gone. People seem wary of the whole thing, but they honestly seem less concerned with getting sick and more concerned with the ripple effects(kids home from school, lines at stores, disruption of normal routine, etc). Anyone I've talked to has more or less shrugged it off, and the only real freaking-out I've seen has been on reddit/facebook/forums where various expats and tourists are wringing their hands over this or that. To be fair, my prefecture has only had very light numbers so far so I guess attitudes could change...but I'm actually surprised at how it's both in every headline but also otherwise not a factor.
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Feb 29, 2020 02:41
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SKULL.GIF posted:Didn't Hokkaido shut down entirely? They declared a 3 week emergency period, which the specific meanings of are...a bit vague. I don't think there's any kind of particular lockdown, people are just urged to not to do unnecessary traveling/outside things, at least over the weekend. I think it's a little more a thing that allows for them to formally request greater aid from the government.
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Feb 29, 2020 02:50
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I hope it's a big breaking news story every time someone catches this disease that isn't going to hurt them in any real way or spread nearly fast or violently enough to satiate the panic porn cycle
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Feb 29, 2020 04:09
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CDC is kinda garbo just listen to the WHO, hth PS it's going to show up in every state and probably already has and the vast majority of cases are not and never will be reported, do your heart rate a favor and don't clench up every time they feed the media cycle with another "some dude has it in X state...and will recover completely but no one cares about that because it isn't exciting" story.
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Feb 29, 2020 04:27
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Sharkie posted:no offense but i don't think "it's being overhyped" is the important issue. just the opposite, really, at least as far as the government's response goes What should they do, start putting out "OMG YOU'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!" statements? Encouraging people to panic even more in ways that are going to disrupt life way worse than the disease itself ever will? Just go whole hog playing into the "it's the spanish flu on steroids" narrative people are weirdly trying to create? You're never going to successfully quarantine it, but the cool thing is that it really isn't that bad so you don't have to bother. Just spend alllll this time and effort and energy loading up facilities with respirators and/or whatever treatment options are proven most effective. Guarantee people time off from work if they need it, that kinda thing. Things that would actually help. I mean obviously they aren't going to do that or do anything else that's useful because they're mostly dumb fascists.
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Feb 29, 2020 05:00
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the most important thing is to signal boost every single panicky "new case found in X" story and feed the cycle so that the various shortages and closures wind up much much more harmful than the disease itself ever could or would be anyway, some top minds have sorted this out: 
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Feb 29, 2020 11:37
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Mar 1, 2020 00:32
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SKULL.GIF posted:You two are really really mad about this I'm mad that dumb people arzying are creating wayyyy more problems than the disease itself yeah, I know I should be quietly cheering for it to be worse than it is and couching my excitement in "concerned" phrasing though
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Mar 1, 2020 01:30
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lock the hoarders(and HER) up
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Mar 1, 2020 09:59
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Here in Japan, it's still calm enough in my prefecture(very few cases though so far). There are a few Costcos scattered around which have been getting heavily shopped, but that weirdly doesn't seem to be spreading to anything smaller. Also, the "hoarding" seems to largely extend toward select toiletries, obviously facemasks, and toilet paper. A rumor whirled around social media about TP shortages for unknown reasons and a bunch of people went wild, forcing everyone else into a corner of following suit or risking running out due to the artificial shortage creating by the rumor. Shinzo is still very firm on the Olympics taking place, and the vast majority of businesses and offices and everything are open - with it being pretty much just schools and the biggest tourist traps (Lab, Disney) closing for a couple weeks. One local mall has reduced their business hours slightly; I was told this was just due to it being a cost-saving function of it being less busy so  I went grocery shopping yesterday and aside from a couple obasans elbowing me, there was no problems or shortages I could see. Most people are wearing masks, but less than I'd expect(though they may simply not have any left). No disruptions of the trains.
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Mar 1, 2020 10:10
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wow I can't believe the apocalypse is so slow and boring
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Mar 2, 2020 00:49
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lol is Twitter going to seriously blow up over every single confirmed case of this thing that thousands and thousands and thousands of people are going to catch(and twice that will catch but never report)
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Mar 2, 2020 01:29
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:Your posting gimmick sucks and you should log off Disagreeing with hysteria is a gimmick! Now for something more useful: Qanon has cracked the case. https://twitter.com/3days3nights/status/1233268295152885761 https://twitter.com/HopefulGardenr/status/1234215244248961024 https://twitter.com/CAtruthseeker/status/1234206643073605632
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silentsnack posted:Your repeated concern trolling is a gimmick, and it is not a good one. Haven't you noticed that barely anyone engages the content when you post this garbage, except to call you out on your style? It's too obvious you're arguing in bad faith when you directly insinuate cspammers are monstrous sociopaths who derive enjoyment from the suffering/distress/deaths of others. I'm sorry you're feeling so defensive about your behavior; not everyone who disagrees with you is engaging in an elaborate gimmick or concern trolling campaign. Please feel free to dismiss and ignore me like all the other smarter people are doing! Now for something useful: The WHO has a hefty report out that seems...oddly optimistic about China. It's a long read but interesting; their take seems to be somewhere in the region of "In a vacuum and ignoring all the absolutely-definite human rights violations, China also seems to be making some genuine non-atrocity headway and we should be working much harder to partner with them on that". https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf
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Japan update: The Great Toilet Paper Shortage is real. Food is everywhere, both fresh and stuff you can store long-term. Normal toiletries, medicine, etc also fine. Just the TP. I know it's happening in the US too, but locally it apparently stems from a social media rumor that China was going to stop sending toilet paper over...even though Japan manufactures pretty much all of their own.
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Mar 2, 2020 05:26
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just going to eat a few pounds of cheese and not be physically capable of making GBS threads for 2 weeks, bing bong so easy
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Mar 2, 2020 05:39
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SKULL.GIF posted:yes, eating a highly fatty food makes you incapable of making GBS threads some of us have idiot digestive tracts please do not be divisive, we need unity among struggle shitters right now
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Mar 2, 2020 05:46
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Of all the countries where this is/is gonna be(and I would suggest it's probably everywhere already, and in larger numbers than being reported), I'd be the most worried about India - they seem even moreso than China to be in a perfect storm situation of having all the horrible scenarios that probably won't pan out elsewhere. Also lol that something like subsidizing massive local mask/supply production, which would be relatively cheap and very popular and go a long way toward helping ease panic if nothing else, is like OUT OF THE QUESTION for the US who will spend a billion dollars on a new jet
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Mar 2, 2020 10:28
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https://twitter.com/EmotionsCloud/status/1234371060306497537 https://twitter.com/EurekaStockade3/status/1234367800417771521 https://twitter.com/SlumberMachine/status/1234342233433706496 Say what you will, but the corona is turning qanon into an amazing content machine
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creatine posted:Over/under on this being a problem still in august? Have a trip to Denmark at the end of August that's like once in a lifetime Go on your awesome trip. It'll either be blown over(probably) or still a problem, but at the "we're resigned to this and life must continue as normal as possible" stage. If the latter, you won't be any more/less safe in one country than another.
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Mar 2, 2020 14:56
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CODChimera posted:on a more positive note, trump has never failed to get out of a jam so im sure hes got something more than just beans cooking cant have elections during virus scare and bad number!
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Mar 2, 2020 15:20
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if youre gonna ride that bike instead of taking the subway(lmao) then at least get a helmet with a big rotating light on it
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Mar 2, 2020 15:36
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stephenthinkpad posted:I'd got that covered. Alright I was teasing you but fair play, if I saw this rolling down Broadway I'd smile so you do you man. See if some company will pay you to fly a little flag behind you
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Mar 2, 2020 15:48
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On the off chance that this turns out not to be the end of the world and anyone feels a little silly for buying tons of supplies and possibly preventing actual people in need from getting them, this is a useful link for a month or two from now https://www.feedingamerica.org/find-your-local-foodbank
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Bulgakov posted:but why is toilet paper getting wiped out so hard The toilet paper thing is happening in Japan too, and yeah it all started from that China rumor(which was false, and at least here in Japan like 80-90% of the stuff is made domestically anyway). The usual old people and tin foil hatters bought up a bunch - not enough, but jussst enough to make shelves look a little sparse. That led to scalpers sensing opportunity and buying more, compounding it. This led to a few actually bare shelves, which people immediately shared on social media as an A) lol look at this, or B) hey folks, looks like you should grab some if you can. Now more sensible people were trapped in a "well I do need toilet paper so I guess I should buy some before the goofs buy it all" corner, and so they did. Then the media started running it, meaning every not-online normal person jumped in as well. Now even though it's not a crisis, everyone has a dim awareness that TP is rare. So any time some 7-11 or grocery store puts any out, it's gone instantly because of that perceived rarity. How long this will last is unknown, but probably directly linked to how long people keep being hysterical on the internet, which will happen 1 minute after the media senses there's more ratings in running "the fatality rate is well below 2%" stories.
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poty posted:twitter thread (click on the tweet) with second hand comments from an expert. he doesnt seem that freaked out about it I'm sincerely glad that accredited people are starting to get this message out so folks will calm the gently caress down and stop hoarding/overcrowding hospitals/doing racisms/etc.
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lmao come on imagine still beaning up over corona. African Swine Fever is the new trendy disease to panic about, try to stay with the times folks
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The most important thing is to concernedly hope it gets way worse than it ever will be, that way you can be smug to people who didn't buy a year's worth of supplies and contribute to harmful shortages.
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Griefor posted:For me in the Netherlands the weird thing is that it's not weird. Everything is business as usual. I really underestimated how powerful the effect of propaganda is, even in our democratic country. The RIVM and government say everything's fine, so everything's fine. My family still thinks the sweltering heat of Dutch summers is going to make Corona go away. It's basically the same in Japan. Schools and big attractions are closed for another week(most schools then have their usual spring break for another 2) and people are specifically buying every toilet paper roll they see, but that's it. No one is freaking out or acting oddly. A mix of being more used to "disasters" and being more acknowledging of authority, I guess. They've set quarantines up for people coming from Korea or China(not sure if some or all) and while there are plenty of domestic cases, the numbers are lower than I honestly expected and overall growth is fairly slow at the moment. You don't even see as many masks on people as you might expect, though that may be because they're hard to find.
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hallebarrysoetoro posted:government already disappearing people in america This dude's feed is just straight Infowars so I wouldn't give him much credit
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Blockade posted:So what does your average American think this is exactly? Grocery stores sold out of toilet paper but still have plenty of soap "I didn't see any toilet paper on the shelf yesterday so today I need to buy all the toilet paper in this Sam's Club because it's rare" It's not in any way connected to the disease beyond the initial "tp shortage coming" rumors stemming from hysterics online. These aren't people worried about getting sick or getting anyone else sick or being isolated or anything like that, it's just pure animal reaction because capitalism has completely shattered their brains
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School Nickname posted:What are SK doing that's so effective? Publically outing cheaters and goons in the name of public health? Or is the situation just like Japan and everyone is saying "This is fine"? Japan is doing lots; I'm here and there's plenty going on. It's just done pretty quietly and the locals aren't culturally addicted to panic as most folks on western outlets. Schools were closed for a couple weeks leading up to their usual spring break, allowing for extra time. Lots of big attractions and tourist traps closed for the same period. People are getting tested and treated at a good clip, outbreaks are as well contained as anywhere else, and a lot of effort has been made to direct people to have good practices in cleaning/handwashing/etc. They just aren't flailing their arms around and obliterating everyday life in a largely performative effort, which is strangely working out pretty well!
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Apples McGrind posted:it just sort of sucks that I finally got over my chronic depression and made a firm routine that helps mitigate my anxiety... and all that is gonna get tossed out the window when we all self-quarantine for a month. And I suspect I’m not the only person who is worried about facing a mental health decline at the above prospect. nope, psychiatrists and therapists have wrote at length that this is having a big toll on mental health. And now that literally everyone with any kind of media voice has an interest in commodifying it for clicks, it's all super sensationalized and out of context and in your face 24/7 from every direction. Add in the distant gibbering of the panic mongers basically cheering it on at this point and, yeah. For me, breaking through all of that by looking at raw numbers helped a lot in terms of perspective. Thinking about slightly-distant things that will very likely happen normally when this is over also helps(and ignoring the "NO BRO IT'S REVELATIONS BRO" from certain quarters while doing so also helps). Take the proper precautions for yourself and try to create some space away from all of it here and there. Also, surely we'll soon get the official capitalism response like "Gig Economy Corona drivers, guaranteed to wear a sterile suit and cater to victims and potential victims of corona!" and that'll be worth some distracting hoots and hollers
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