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Thanks for the thread. I recently moved and had to change my constituency and don't even know if I can vote in this one where I live yet. I don't hold out much hope for how this one turns out either way.
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I thought Renua was gone. The new Greens seem good but Ryan and the older guard are pure shite and they will sell the entire country down the river for token representation. Nothing has really changed with him since the last coalition. It will be a shame if the current realisations about the utter state of FF/FG ends up backfiring into history repeating with another FF/Green poo poo show.
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Jan 23, 2020 15:17
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Even if they get a majority I could see that happening within 12 months.
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Jan 23, 2020 16:01
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My town has an unenforced but agreed upon by the candidates ban on posters within the town limits. It is nice.
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Jan 23, 2020 16:15
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Miftan posted:How strict are the parties in Ireland wrt removing the whip-equivalent? If the greens go into coalition with FF/FG and that nice lady from the first page doesn't vote with them is she likely to get booted? Though I gather being an independent in Ireland isn't the career ender it is in the UK since some of them actually get elected? As an example, Billy Timmins was kicked from Fine Gael for violating the whip on abortion. He joined Renua but after he lost his seat in the re-election in 2016 he rejoined Fine Gael again in 2018.
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Jan 24, 2020 09:17
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Chuka Umana posted:Stopping in to ask if there are any decent anti-austerity parties that could win the election? Anti-Austerity Alliance/People before Profit but they won't get enough seats to form a government by themselves. Workers Party is also anti-austerity but they are even more tiny and probably won't win any seats. Sinn Fein is also anti-austerity.
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Jan 27, 2020 22:24
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kustomkarkommando posted:Not sure you could pinpoint who won last night's debate - Boyd Barrett seemed to win the audience, Mary Lou did a decent turn - Shortall definately finished bottom though in terms of performance SocDem were splitters from Labour anyway right? There isn't much difference to them either way.
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Jan 28, 2020 10:18
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Azza Bamboo posted:Ireland's voting method is fascinating. In terms of strategy, is it better to be divisive to rack up just enough votes for one candidate in each constituency than it is to try and triangulate for a push with multiple candidates in each constituency? It really depends on the constituency. In some with very popular candidates, running two or even three candidates from the same party that will benefit from the run off is a thing that happens fairly regularly. In others it has ended up splitting the vote and instead of getting an almost guaranteed two, you end up with only one getting in and two split enough that neither qualify.
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Jan 28, 2020 11:07
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Where did that 50+ go?
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Feb 2, 2020 15:03
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I just saw a canvassing poster for Michael Healy Rae outside Brittas village in South County Dublin. I feel like I'm losing my mind.
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Feb 3, 2020 09:50
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https://twitter.com/BenGilroy11/status/1223668953064648713?s=20 He's at it again.
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Feb 3, 2020 14:24
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Is leader of the opposition based on seats won? Be hilarious if FF/FG manage to lose and get the same number of seats.
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Feb 4, 2020 12:19
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Skull Servant posted:He's got my vote! Make Harry and Meghan king and queen of Ulster?
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Feb 4, 2020 15:03
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Just in case it's not 100% clear loyalist means unionist means they want to stay in the UK. This guy thinks all they need to stop wanting to be part of the UK is a King or Queen for them.
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Feb 4, 2020 15:16
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OwlFancier posted:Is there a large contingent of people in Ireland who want to rejoin the UK??? When we say Ireland we mean the Island so yeah. But if you mean the Republic there is a very small contingent who would probably be okay with that.
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Feb 4, 2020 15:23
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OwlFancier posted:Well I mean... he's standing for election in dublin south west so I don't... necessarily know that the people in NI are going to be voting for him..? I don't think he's really speaking to the loyalists in NI. He's just a mad aul' lad who doesn't want divorce and thinks he can solve the troubles by making someone a king.
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Feb 4, 2020 15:27
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OwlFancier posted:Specifically by making queen elizabeth the queen of Ireland... Irishly. Nah I think you can keep her, this would be a new one. Pretty sure she's already the queen of Northern Ireland already.
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Feb 4, 2020 15:29
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OwlFancier posted:
Oh I genuinely missed that part. This is even better than I thought.
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Feb 4, 2020 15:35
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Not sure about the bigger parties but Labour getting 6 seems a stretch. PbP only getting 1 seems really low. I don't think Soc Dems will get 5 either.
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Feb 4, 2020 16:48
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Failed Imagineer posted:SD getting 5 seems optimistic, though my boy Gary Gannon is nailed on imo He seems like a good lad but I still don't really trust the purple ones to do much to push things further left.
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Feb 4, 2020 16:54
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V. Illych L. posted:i know nothing of the irish greens, but green parties in most of europe are basically urban middle-class educated types with socially liberal attitudes and no fundamental aversion to state action but also no particular commitment to any vision of society - so the seize a lot of less-engaged left-leaning types as well as devouring any old social liberal parties. UBI is a policy which is easy to put out there and hard to properly justify, because it seems to fit well in theory but which needs some hard choices in practice about what to cut or how to restructure society so as to afford it. either of these choices means clarifying some assumptions about how society actually works which really need to be kept fuzzy in order to keep their voting coalition together Young greens tend to be more militant and further left. Older greens are just champagne socialists or centrist scum who couldn't give a poo poo if poor people die in the streets as long as they get a tax on plastic bags/water etc etc
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Feb 4, 2020 17:16
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Sorry I wasn't clear but that's my opinion on Irish Greens.
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Feb 4, 2020 19:34
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kustomkarkommando posted:Also add Saoirse McHugh to the list of people who should be elected along with Gary Gannon imo A good example of younger greens from page 1
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Feb 4, 2020 19:36
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kustomkarkommando posted:https://twitter.com/rtepolitics/status/1225018556997390336?s=19 seems callous
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Feb 5, 2020 13:21
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Failed Imagineer posted:Nah seems reasonable If she wasn't an independent this wouldn't be happening.
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Feb 5, 2020 16:10
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My voter card arrived today! I can actually vote where I live now. Actually someone help me out. I know gently caress all about the non-obvious Wicklow candidates like Harris or Donnelly. lemonadesweetheart fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Feb 5, 2020 |
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Feb 5, 2020 21:00
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Failed Imagineer posted:Dunno why everyone thinks you need a polling card to vote. Don't think I'm usually asked to present mine, and it's not a requirement if you have ID I had only just submitted my change of address when the election was announced as I just recently moved here, so I wasn't sure if I'd be stuck in my old district or not. I was aware you don't need it but this confirms that I'm registered to vote where I live.
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Feb 5, 2020 22:35
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Get out and vote.
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Feb 8, 2020 08:31
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Failed Imagineer posted:I was going to but you didn't ask nicely Gary Gannon will fail then.
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Feb 8, 2020 10:22
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It's not a bad morning either. It will get worse later. If people have any sense they will be out voting early.
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Feb 8, 2020 12:22
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Met an auld dear on the way back from the polling station. She told me we have to vote sinn fein and transfer left. She read it on facebook.
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Feb 8, 2020 12:36
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notaspy posted:As a plastic paddy (born in dublin, ancestry is irish but raised in London) what are some good websites or podcasts to get into so I can reconnect with my roots. Rubberbandits have a podcast.
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Feb 9, 2020 12:22
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https://twitter.com/anniewestdotcom...onal-updates%2F
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Feb 9, 2020 13:27
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FF/SF would be the second worst possibility to come from this. FF/FG being the worst.
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Feb 9, 2020 14:56
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OwlFancier posted:Was there a historic period where they did better or have they always been very small in the republic? Not since the 20s and it was a different party back then.
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Feb 10, 2020 00:15
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Pretty sure SF ran more candidates in the last election and it definitely ended up hurting them.
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Feb 10, 2020 09:43
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Miftan posted:Out of curiosity, how? Do people not give all their top ranks to the same party? That's wild if you want those guys to get in. If you don't have a really good transfer strategy you end up splitting your votes across candidates and they end up losing out. It really only works if you can get one candidate well over the quota and then transfer down to a second candidate. If you end up with a split then both are below the quota and getting transfers is a crap-shoot. The discipline just wasn't there. I also don't think the country was ready at that point. I think there are a lot more first time sinn fein voters this time around. Here's some examples from 2016 https://www.irishtimes.com/election-2016/dublin-south-central https://www.irishtimes.com/election-2016/dublin-bay-north lemonadesweetheart fucked around with this message at 10:15 on Feb 10, 2020 |
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Feb 10, 2020 10:11
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Maybe it's more to do with being less transfer friendly down here. I find people in the south are quite hypocritical about Sinn Fein in general, where they'll insist that they get equal representation up north but you couldn't elect one down here because they're all terrorists.
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Feb 10, 2020 10:54
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adhuin posted:Wait a minute. It's both I think. Yup confirmed. https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/elections_and_referenda/voting/proportional_representation.html#ld4f62
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EmmyOk posted:How do they calculate the calculate the threshold btw Total votes divided by seats +1 or something like that.
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