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Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.
This is a pretty fascinating article on how China's zero-tolerance COVID approach could spectacularly backfire soonish

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2022-01-26/chinas-immunity-gap

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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



It’s also dumb since this disease confers little natural immunity.

A lot of media sources are yelling that China is going to fail because their owners want to make their own failure to do anything more palatable.

China responded better and has done more for its people through this pandemic than most other nations.

matti
Mar 31, 2019

who needs civil liberties anyway

Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006

you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

Mr. Nice! posted:

It’s also dumb since this disease confers little natural immunity.

A lot of media sources are yelling that China is going to fail because their owners want to make their own failure to do anything more palatable.

China responded better and has done more for its people through this pandemic than most other nations.

Lol. Outside of being responsible for the pandemic sure.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

Mr. Nice! posted:

It’s also dumb since this disease confers little natural immunity.

A lot of media sources are yelling that China is going to fail because their owners want to make their own failure to do anything more palatable.

China responded better and has done more for its people through this pandemic than most other nations.

There's varying reports on it so honestly I'm not sure either way. I've heard both this and Omicron + 2 shots + booster = super immunity

Honestly, I feel like the scientific consensus on natural immunity isn't quite in yet

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Seth Pecksniff posted:

This is a pretty fascinating article on how China's zero-tolerance COVID approach could spectacularly backfire soonish

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2022-01-26/chinas-immunity-gap

Nah.

There are a lot of issues to take up with China, but its response to covid is second to none.
There has been an endless stream of wishful thinking from various compromised public health agencies about how getting covid is good actually, but so far none of it has held up.

Could be that all the previous stuff was wrong but somehow this is right, but seems doubtful given the track record.

Mooey Cow
Jan 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Pillbug
China releases new and improved version of 1999 hit movie Fight Club where the authorities win

quote:

In the version available on Tencent Video, which CNN Business was able to view on the platform, the entire scene featuring the explosions has been cut out. Instead, it has been replaced with a caption explaining to audiences that the authorities arrived just in time to save the day.
"Through the clue provided by Tyler, the police rapidly figured out the whole plan and arrested all criminals, successfully preventing the bomb from exploding," the caption reads. "After the trial, Tyler was sent to [a] lunatic asylum receiving psychological treatment. He was discharged from the hospital in 2012."


guess they missed the part where project mayhem controlled the cops too :thunk:

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
In the Chinese version of Planet of the Apes, Charlton Heston still finds the ruins of the Statue of Liberty. Then a caption explains that PRC navy noticed the lone man while patrolling the coast of the Destroyed Continent, and took him to safety.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.
Wait is that for real?

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Seth Pecksniff posted:

Wait is that for real?

Apparently yes. It's not uncommon in China, although it's not clear to me if authorities really require it or if it's just self-censorship of the distributor gone wild.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.
God help the PLA if it ever gets involved in a real war and gets utterly decimated, with all the mythos surrounding the fact that they're the only civilized society keeping the barbaric world at bay

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Nenonen posted:

In the Chinese version of Planet of the Apes, Charlton Heston still finds the ruins of the Statue of Liberty. Then a caption explains that PRC navy noticed the lone man while patrolling the coast of the Destroyed Continent, and took him to safety.

lmao this rules

mkvltra
Nov 1, 2020

Nenonen posted:

In the Chinese version of Planet of the Apes, Charlton Heston still finds the ruins of the Statue of Liberty. Then a caption explains that PRC navy noticed the lone man while patrolling the coast of the Destroyed Continent, and took him to safety.

Good for them!

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

I love you, Doctor Xius

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

I was driving to campus. Comining in off the ramp I see a big green bus. Unusual.

I slow down to let it off the ramp, and there it us. "Shen Yun" with what appeared to be ballet-esque dancers on the side.

i was awestruck.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



Strategic Tea posted:

I love you, Doctor Xius

That just made me think of the best interpretation of the Planet of the Apes to date:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlmzUEQxOvA

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Yeah of all of god knows how many years of Simpsons, that is what I remember most :allears:

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

Strategic Tea posted:

Yeah of all of god knows how many years of Simpsons, that is what I remember most :allears:

I still sing this to myself occasionally and I'm not even sorry

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Re: Fight club ending/censorship.

I said this in the thread before. But I was living in China, (Chengdu), when the last(?) of the Hunger Games movies came out and I saw it at the cinema.

As far as I know it was shown unmolested. And this surprised me, because the entire plot of the films is "The government is evil, and running things for the benefit only of the wealthy elites. Elites who force the poor people in the provinces to send their children to die for our amusement. It is right and good that the poor people in the provinces violently rise against the government."

Which is not a message I thought the CCP would be happy with. Especially that last sentence.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

BrigadierSensible posted:

Re: Fight club ending/censorship.

I said this in the thread before. But I was living in China, (Chengdu), when the last(?) of the Hunger Games movies came out and I saw it at the cinema.

As far as I know it was shown unmolested. And this surprised me, because the entire plot of the films is "The government is evil, and running things for the benefit only of the wealthy elites. Elites who force the poor people in the provinces to send their children to die for our amusement. It is right and good that the poor people in the provinces violently rise against the government."

Which is not a message I thought the CCP would be happy with. Especially that last sentence.

they must have liked the movie a lot and thought it rigorously only applied to americans

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

BrigadierSensible posted:

Re: Fight club ending/censorship.

I said this in the thread before. But I was living in China, (Chengdu), when the last(?) of the Hunger Games movies came out and I saw it at the cinema.

As far as I know it was shown unmolested. And this surprised me, because the entire plot of the films is "The government is evil, and running things for the benefit only of the wealthy elites. Elites who force the poor people in the provinces to send their children to die for our amusement. It is right and good that the poor people in the provinces violently rise against the government."

Which is not a message I thought the CCP would be happy with. Especially that last sentence.

Well, all the capitalists die or are subjugated, so maybe it was ideologically not that questionable?

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015
Or maybe censorship wasn't as strict 10+ years ago

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

je1 healthcare posted:

Or maybe censorship wasn't as strict 10+ years ago

its absolutely this. a couple months ago everyone was laughing at how bilibili had to censor an anime by de-boobing a character and covering up other, fully clothed characters. the first season of the show aired relatively uncut a couple years ago.

historically theyve censored really graphic violence only, now it's a lot more.

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012
the good ol days of censorship when you would buy pirate vcd and dvds off the street for like a buck

sucks to be a beijinger

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
I miss going to markets and flipping through just thousands of movies and albums.

I know I can find a thousand times the selection online, but it lacks that sense of mystery and discovery.

ili
Jul 26, 2003


Yeah it's not the same just torrenting an album, I miss the experience of buying bootleg cds with what appeared to be home level inkjet printed sleeves and those lovely printed cd cover stickers plastered onto the disc.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
I actually had one of those stamps for putting stickers on CDs and DVDs. Felt like a king.

Then they brought out printable DVDs and blew my mind.

EDIT: As mysterious to kids nowadays as a Roman dodecahedron.

Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Jan 27, 2022

CIGNX
May 7, 2006

You can trust me
I still remember going to Tom's Shop in Beijing near the Lido Holiday Inn. You would go underground via this sketchy staircase, and then you would find yourself in a two-story bunker full of pirated stuff.

One thing that's stuck in my mind since then was this pirated deluxe DVD box set of the Berlin Alexanderplatz miniseries. The box was about 2 feet wide and was the biggest item in the store, but the packaging look as good as any other deluxe set I'd seen before. I still wonder how much demand there could have been to convince someone pirate that series and then also make the packaging so nice.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.
Xi is impotent. Therefore nobody may have sexual arousal, citizen!

IT BURNS
Nov 19, 2012

Booty Pageant posted:

the good ol days of censorship when you would buy pirate vcd and dvds off the street for like a buck

sucks to be a beijinger

I remember this vividly from my first trip to China in 2001. Any movie or CD you wanted was pirated, cheap, and readily available, any massage parlor was a brothel, and the food was delicious, even if you didn't know exactly what was in it (miraculously, I managed never to get sick, although a bunch of people in the group I was travelling with did). I saw a very edited version of Swordfish (lovely Travolta action flick) that did the same thing with the ending, and this was over 20 years ago.

Going back again in 2015, it felt more like a shopping mall under heavy surveillance.

mkvltra
Nov 1, 2020

BrigadierSensible posted:

Re: Fight club ending/censorship.

I said this in the thread before. But I was living in China, (Chengdu), when the last(?) of the Hunger Games movies came out and I saw it at the cinema.

As far as I know it was shown unmolested. And this surprised me, because the entire plot of the films is "The government is evil, and running things for the benefit only of the wealthy elites. Elites who force the poor people in the provinces to send their children to die for our amusement. It is right and good that the poor people in the provinces violently rise against the government."

Which is not a message I thought the CCP would be happy with. Especially that last sentence.

I read once that the movie Memento is edited to play chronologically in some Arab countries

Brutal Garcon
Nov 2, 2014



mkvltra
Nov 1, 2020


So Batman 3 just ends after the planejacking scene?

Brutal Garcon
Nov 2, 2014



mkvltra posted:

So Batman 3 just ends after the planejacking scene?

To be clear, that was a joke.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014


lmfao yesss

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


IT BURNS posted:

Going back again in 2015, it felt more like a shopping mall under heavy surveillance.

There's still some of it around. I moved to Chengdu in 2014 and went with a coworker to a big electronics mall, and if you went up to the top floor there was a dark hallway, and in that hallway was a semi-concealed door that went into this bare concrete room where a dude had pirated DVDs. And there were the porn truck guys at a couple of the markets.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/m...ion-1235082239/

apparently the author thinks the Chinese ending was closer to his vision? Xi wins again, baby!!!!!!!!!

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?




I'm enjoying this extremely niche meme.

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

lazy memers don't change the chinese text smh

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Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

IT BURNS posted:

I remember this vividly from my first trip to China in 2001. Any movie or CD you wanted was pirated, cheap, and readily available, any massage parlor was a brothel, and the food was delicious, even if you didn't know exactly what was in it (miraculously, I managed never to get sick, although a bunch of people in the group I was travelling with did). I saw a very edited version of Swordfish (lovely Travolta action flick) that did the same thing with the ending, and this was over 20 years ago.

Going back again in 2015, it felt more like a shopping mall under heavy surveillance.

Living in Beijing currently, all of that still exists, but on a massively smaller scale.

You can still get pirated movies and unlocked iphones in Zhongguancun. If you walk in Sanlitun at night, you will still see cards advertising....companions for the night. But the city is cleaning up a lot now. There used to be a massage places near Dalianpo, where I got my groceries and now they are all boarded up or trashed. That's the price of gentrification, I suppose.

Dandywalken posted:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/m...ion-1235082239/

apparently the author thinks the Chinese ending was closer to his vision? Xi wins again, baby!!!!!!!!!

To be fair, the book ends with the buildings not blowing up because he hosed up the explosive mixture and he does end up in an insane asylum; most of the orderlies, however, are part of project mayhem and are waiting for Tyler to come back.

There are two comic book sequels to Fight Club, but why would you do that to yourself?

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