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The General posted:Latest episode of Picard was really disappointing. I kinda liked how the holo-ads were obviously targeted ads, as well as being off their mark and ineffective, just like ads today. "Hmm, this one's a robot doctor, let's show her the robot fighting ad, should be a good fit."
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2020 05:29 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 01:20 |
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If I were a violent and seedy nightclub owner, and technology of the day was such that elevated heart rate and stuff could summon electronic ghosts to my aid, I would definitely have hidden preprogrammed holo projectors in my seedy violent nightclub, just in case someone tried to kill me. edit: remember when on DS9 the replicators started making drone laser turrets and shooting everyone, then Dukat comes strutting onto the bridge and none of the turrets shot him b/c they were (at first) coded to not shoot him? I would have those in my nightclub too. doctorfrog fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Feb 23, 2020 |
# ¿ Feb 23, 2020 05:31 |
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hm, the next ep is called "the impossible box."
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2020 20:47 |
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Captain Hygiene posted:My favorite thing about really early TNG is how hard they lean into the "people are super advanced and perfect now" idea, like you get little kids walking by talking about their calculus classes and French native Jean-Luc Picard being all "FRANCE? WHAT'S A FRANCE?!" because we've temporarily moved beyond even the memory of nations. What I'm saying is, this show needs more smugly casual reminders of how much better future people are. Picard knew what France was and in s1 chews out Q for wearing a super high commandy Field Marshall uniform iirc. But you’re right ST is fun when it presents an aspirational view of the future and sorta lords it over us present day scum. doctorfrog fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Feb 26, 2020 |
# ¿ Feb 26, 2020 02:57 |
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drilldo squirt posted:Really pissed they killed hugh. yeah this show's bummin' me out.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2020 09:19 |
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As a TNG fan I was an easy sell this ep but they leaned kinda hard on the "it's soo good to see you," for even my tastes. I like Riker and Trio's home though, I'd totally love there in any timeline.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2020 19:19 |
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Shaocaholica posted:Lol you got stuck in the ribbon have fun not enjoying anything. Yeah that house did kinda look like Ribbon Kirk's place. I dunno, looks nice! Nicest place in Picard so far, even better than the vineyard.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2020 20:09 |
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Yeah... Trek has always been a little cheap, I find it endearing when I'm otherwise enjoying myself. Like, someone pointed out their using a 3D printer as a prop replicator: that's fine, I have no problem with that. But watching The Witcher, then Picard, then Altered Carbon, it starts to look really low-effort. Altered Carbon S2 is not, IMO, a worthy second season, but it at least looks like they tried to build some dang sets. Star Trek Picard looks cheeeeeep.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2020 03:13 |
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I wonder what was in that mind meld that made the cake lady murder her old boyfriend. Because the montage I saw would not have done it for me.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2020 21:23 |
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hemale in pain posted:gently caress troi and riker are both really good. they should of been in the series from the start. Would they do a cooking show, I wonder? I would watch them do a cooking show as either themselves or their TNG characters, or mix it up some.
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2020 03:22 |
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sweet geek swag posted:Maybe it just drives you insane because it's like a mind virus or something. They keep passing it telepathically and that way people are forced to help whatever crazy prophecy/prediction that the dumb villains are following. Quick, someone splice in footage from Event Horizon.
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2020 03:23 |
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HD DAD posted:Star Trek: Picard - Season Finale
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2020 17:52 |
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large_gourd posted:nah, that's what it actually was. not autism specifically, just mental disability. it's how they are written and how they are played. I don't disagree, but I wonder if you could rewrite them as a species who were given or accidentally discovered powerful technology, but didn't evolve enough as a culture to manage it, or themselves, or anything. You could have some fun tying that to modern day human handling of... nearly everything requiring global scale management.
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2020 23:33 |
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Origami Dali posted:I had forgotten about this uh outfit there's a lwaxana version of this outfit-and-turn that I won't be the one to link to
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2020 05:07 |
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Frankenstyle posted:Don't get all protective of your heroes. I'm not saying they're usually wrong. I'm saying they've become really half assed about the reasoning that forms their opinions. They used to make cogent points, but have kind of fallen back on this lazy "It's bad cause I don't get it" schtick that's kinda awkward when the poo poo they pretend they "don't get" is pretty obvious and basic. They've gotten lazier than the poo poo they live to bitch about. Yeah I've seen a bit of this in their video, but I don't care because the show isn't very good, and RLM being cranky for the sake of cranky is part of my media diet now. It's all of a piece. I figure Mike made his early Plinkett Star Trek stuff only after the shows didn't exist in the public imagination anymore, and there were points that bugged him and had been turning over in his head for years and years. This show is mostly about banging out disgruntled responses to a show that came out a week ago that won't be looked at ever again (Picard and their reviews). I'm ok with it not being timeless.
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2020 08:28 |
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MR.B posted:Good episode again. A shame there are only two left. oooh lemme try Good episode? Again, a shame. There are only two left!
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2020 03:19 |
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:I miss lcars. I think in the previous ep Picard calls up an interface that looks a bit like LCARS, like it was the modern hand wavey thing but an older version. I appreciated it, if I didn't imagine it. also, lol at the witch circle scene
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2020 06:58 |
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Ep seemed kinda impatient with itself, like it's in as much in a hurry to be done with itself as I was.
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2020 05:43 |
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I was puzzled by the response of one of the soongdroids, getting mad at the ban for preventing more synths from being made as murdering them before they were born. It might have been less stupid than that, but I am not going back to find out exactly what she said. In one way, it's a dumb thing to be mad about. It's like being upset with menstruation or masturbation at wasting a chance to make another human. All those murdered humans, never permitted to be born. On the other hand, maybe that's an actual credible threat that synths could present. Let's say for a moment that the Federation gives synths a planet. There you go, synths. The synths make a cluster of buildings that looks like a very expensive strip mall in a Los Angeles suburb, much like the episode presents us. They produce more of themselves free of interference from fearful meat-people. They're peaceful and happy and more or less superhuman within the bounds of a television writer's imagination. A splinter faction forms that decides it's a priority to replicate synths. It's what it wants to do. Failure to make synths is akin to murder, not a moment can be lost. So it splits off and starts making more synths. It just makes more and more. And they're not mindless blank bowling pins, they're all unique forms of life with personality and all that, all given freedom and power and everything else every other synth (or Federation citizen) has a right to. Out of each generation of these unique synths, there is a handful that also just wants to make more synths, faster, better, etc. To not make more is sinful, essentially murder. Any lost chance to make another synth is a murder of a future potential complex and sentient individual. From here on it can be a gray goo kinda problem, just with self-replicating forms of life. Only they don't have to be like the Borg, where they are all gray, and all the same. They can be a huge, diverse race, just one that is able to out-replicate and out-populate everyone else at a huge rate. Every one of them an individual with individual rights that cannot be suppressed. Yet they will outnumber every other population in the galaxy in no time at all. Not only that, they have seemingly legitimate claims of superiority. How can the Federation deal with that? How does this test Federation ideals?
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2020 18:59 |
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Oh no wait just have a witch circle where the ladies go crazy
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2020 19:01 |
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Peachfart posted:Ah, so more Mass Effect plots, but for machines instead of biological people. I've never played Mass Effect and I never will. But I'd be real surprised if they were the first to come up with "tech level triggers apocalypse" or "robots are ideal citizens but challenge enlightened society's tolerance for an Other" plots. At least with your Kurtzmann/Abrams plots, the attempt is at ~mystery~ instead of ~originality~. Expectations are lower than for your average SA poster.
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2020 22:20 |
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infernal machines posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berserker_(novel_series) circa 1963, and sci-fi being what it is it's been done over a bajillion times. Personally, I'm a fan of Alastair Reynolds' Inhibitor Trilogy Something to add to the ol reading list, thanks. Re: the show runners of Picard—they don’t care and in the running trend of our time, will only be rewarded because there is no point of failure for anyone above a certain level of their given pyramid.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2020 00:48 |
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Robot lady was definitely dead imo. Glass hummingbird to the eyeball.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2020 00:56 |
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Tip posted:Not-data also was like, "Get this man a glass of water! Us organics get thirsty, we're not all machines!" He was referring to old dudes I think. I'm still getting over the clip of Discovery I saw on the RLM review, apparently the main character dons an anime angel space suit at some point. Like, I'd be mad but ok if Star Trek did something I didn't like if it actually meant something, but it's just random plasticky visual ideas since the first Abrams movie.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2020 06:13 |
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Rutibex posted:he is movie picard Nooooo! *smashes a glass case with the butt of a phaser rifle*
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2020 23:51 |
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I didn't hate Enterprise, but I did hate Archer. vvv to be clear, Bakula is just fine-ula. Like, I walked away from Voyager not real happy with Janeway's character, but an overall sense of well-wishing for Kate Mulgrew. doctorfrog fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Mar 25, 2020 |
# ¿ Mar 25, 2020 23:07 |
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Rutibex posted:Enterprise is.....better than Star Trek Picard Enterprise is Star Trek. Runnin' around in a space ship, trying to be peaceful and dealing with anomalies and time travel, being kinda self righteous but running up against the limits of your knowledge. It wasn't usually that great but it was Star Trek.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2020 23:16 |
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It does bear repeating that it can take a couple seasons for a Star Trek to get really good. Think: Kurtzmann follows JJ's coattails elsewhere, some new showrunner joins on, and it either gets much worse or much better.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2020 23:44 |
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Tip posted:Hey remember how they made a huge deal at the beginning of the season about how the synths have to be made in pairs? Where the gently caress is Picard's twin? Wait, I predicted that Picard was a replicant based on the animated intro to the show. Is this what happens? I haven't watched the final eps yet and don't care about spoilers.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2020 00:02 |
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Frankenstyle posted:I kinda thought Enterprise was mostly okay, but that's largely because I honestly thought they intentionally wrote Archer as an incompetent gently caress-up that stumbled through his career on nothing but blind stupid luck. The show works fine when you think it's basically The Office in space. Hm, I despised the Office as well. But, like Enterprise, I watched every single episode, so I'm clearly an idiot.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2020 00:03 |
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Tip posted:Picard makes a big heroic sacrifice to save everyone, but guess what, they transferred his consciousness into a robot that looks exactly like him and is the same in every single way including that he's a weak old man who will probably die before long. Eh, it sounds ok. But they made him a weak old man robot. Eh, that's ok. No wait, that's dumb. Can't make up my mind yet. Does Admiral Nancy "loving" Hubris show up to give him crap about it at least?
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2020 00:19 |
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I'm at the part when the beard man's ship is broken and the 3000 watt search lights built into the back of the ship are off and I can actually see the actors without glare. fake edit: whoops he fixed it, pow! It's a 2010's TV show again.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2020 06:55 |
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A4R8 posted:I want to see more of the robot Lovecraft monster glimpsed at in the portal.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2020 17:34 |
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Lowen SoDium posted:Picard: "I can handle it from here, thanks for the help Will" Maybe leave behind a couple ships to watch over the planet, you know those Romulans, sometimes they're a little tri- NOPE CAN"T COMPLICATE OUR EMOTIONAL DEATH SCENE
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2020 17:36 |
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just finished it. it's like a comic book you read about a show you like that's off-canon and you don't mind because it's just a comic book and you can ignore a lot of the bad writing and stuff, but instead, it's a reboot of a television show.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2020 20:07 |
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More q+a with Michael Chabon. I am not impressed with his work on this show, if I'm understanding which bits of it are his, but he could easily crawl into a hole and retweet congratulatory pap instead of answer any questions, so at least he's done that. I just bolded the stuff I thought was dumb or answered burning questions I had.quote:What became of Narek? stolen from reddit doctorfrog fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Mar 27, 2020 |
# ¿ Mar 27, 2020 20:30 |
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I think what bothers me most at the moment is Picard basically being ok with being a robot clone of his dead self. Maybe they'll have him self-reflect a bit in S2. I'm thinking of when Riker had a transporter clone made that lived on his own for 7 years and ended up having a dramatically different outlook on life, changed his name to Thomas, and joined the Macquis. But this show has a weirdly conflicted desire to be fan-servicey and yet be as 2020 prestige TV as it can. It wants the same familiar characters from the show for nostalgia weight but doesn't want to do anything that feels genuine with them, or tries to reconstruct a sense of genuineness without bothering to think very hard about it, because it's also trying to do another thing that's not entirely thought or budgeted out.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2020 20:39 |
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2020 20:42 |
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infernal machines posted:None of that matters, the dialog was written because it sounds meaningful, not because they had any interest in exploring the concept. gat dang this sentence makes me sad. You sum it up well.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2020 23:52 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 01:20 |
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Bistromatic posted:That part does not bother me at all, if you accept that someone can essentially be both a computer program and a person then it's a small step to accept mind transfer. Hell, he never once doubted that the copy of Data running on that computer was in fact Data so it seems like a logical conclusion that he would also accept his own identity being preserved during a transfer. *moe's mentor slowly walking into a pond to drown, only it's data* It's not so much the fact of the transfer and it's not really explored, it's that it's accepted as a character reset with no further consideration so we can have both a teary sacrifice and our main character back. I can get how a 24th century person would have fewer qualms about it than a backwards 21st century dipshit like me who has never had his atoms scrambled, though. edit: Picard once had the opportunity to live his whole life again from being a kid, and turned it down so that TNG could continue with its middle-aged captain, though. It's lame but there's precedent for the character to want to stay really old.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2020 23:56 |