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Rebus
Jan 18, 2006

Meanwhile, somewhere in Grove, work begins on next season's Williams F1 car...


Careful who you call / don't call a loveable loser

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your friend wicka
Jun 28, 2007

Huski Chocolate is a lifestyle, not only a product. It's about adventure & expedition. Living life to the fullest. It's a perfect recovery drink after training, because of the healthy carbohydrate and protein content, easy to digest and perfect for replenishing tired muscles.



LeeMajors posted:

Does all that seem about right?

Seems like a more accurate view than the show itself tbh. I enjoyed the series but they overdramatize certain things and create storylines that don't exist in reality. The "rivalry" between Ricciardo and Sainz doesn't exist, for example.

Also Williams are lovable losers.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

. . . and the car would pass him, the driver perhaps feeling a slight chill as if he had driven through an air pocket, his sleeping wife and children stirring uneasily, as if all had been touched with a bad dream at the same instant.

Rebus posted:

Careful who you call / don't call a loveable loser

I mean, really, what the gently caress happened to Williams?

your friend wicka posted:

Seems like a more accurate view than the show itself tbh. I enjoyed the series but they overdramatize certain things and create storylines that don't exist in reality. The "rivalry" between Ricciardo and Sainz doesn't exist, for example.

Also Williams are lovable losers.

Fair enough--I didn't dislike them overall but Claire seemed way over her head and only in position because of nepotism? Which I guess isn't unheard of in racing anywhere, but I found it hard to like them when she just seemed out of touch and constantly perplexed that they were so bad.

The other poor performing teams seemed to at least have something of a grasp on why they were struggling.

LeeMajors fucked around with this message at 12:45 on May 22, 2020

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007

HI! HAD FAST UPDSIDE DOWN CRASH. ALSO AM DAMAGED BRIAN. WHAT THINK ABOUT FAST CARS?


LeeMajors posted:

I walked away with most favorable opinions of Sainz and McLaren. Sad to see him bounce for Ferrari but I guess you can't pass up big opportunities like that.

good

LeeMajors posted:

Verstappen seemed ok but archetypical young cocky dude--he owns it pretty well

ehh

LeeMajors posted:

I loving hated Horner

good

LeeMajors posted:

Vettel and Hamilton I thought were pretty likable (as well as Bottas and LeClerc)

fine

LeeMajors posted:

but Wolff rubbed me the wrong way in general

what the gently caress?

LeeMajors posted:

and Ferrari just seemed like a hapless team coasting on name recognition and endlessly frustrated that Mercedes was loving them up regularly.

good

LeeMajors posted:

The Haas team principle (I forgot his name) I generally liked because he was just a perpetually disappointed dad with poo poo results (Grosjean ).

good

LeeMajors posted:

Renault though...Cyril was just kinda pompous even though their cars were terrible. The news of Ricciardo bouncing after he was so smug stealing him from Red Bull is .

excellent

LeeMajors posted:

I'm not sure what to think about Ricciardo. He seems talented and personable and I initially liked him a bit as a foil to Horner but he's rocketing from team to team. Can't blame him for leaving Renault though--they seem like a shitshow.

good

LeeMajors posted:

Williams they aren't even lovable losers and its crazy to me that they were so good when I watched in the 90s.

rip rebus but yeah

LeeMajors posted:

Sauber wasn't covered much, nor was Toro Rosso but I came away with a positive view of TR.

they're just sort of there

LeeMajors posted:

Does all that seem about right?


9 1/2 8 1/2 out of 11 I'm docking an extra mark because of how wrong you are about Wolff

Frond
Mar 12, 2018


I like Toto.

your friend wicka
Jun 28, 2007

Huski Chocolate is a lifestyle, not only a product. It's about adventure & expedition. Living life to the fullest. It's a perfect recovery drink after training, because of the healthy carbohydrate and protein content, easy to digest and perfect for replenishing tired muscles.



LeeMajors posted:

I mean, really, what the gently caress happened to Williams?


Fair enough--I didn't dislike them overall but Claire seemed way over her head and only in position because of nepotism? Which I guess isn't unheard of in racing anywhere, but I found it hard to like them when she just seemed out of touch and constantly perplexed that they were so bad.

The other poor performing teams seemed to at least have something of a grasp on why they were struggling.

For the most part they are just underfunded. Last year they hired Paddy Lowe and put him in charge of way too much and he dropped the ball on all of it, so that made them more bad than usual.

NtotheTC posted:

9 1/2 8 1/2 out of 11 I'm docking an extra mark because of how wrong you are about Wolff

Yeah, Wolff kicks rear end, you were wrong about that.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

. . . and the car would pass him, the driver perhaps feeling a slight chill as if he had driven through an air pocket, his sleeping wife and children stirring uneasily, as if all had been touched with a bad dream at the same instant.

Fair enough. I guess it wasn't entirely a bad impression but it was only a bit of one season. I guess I should give him an Incomplete.

He definitely wasn't in the Horner/Cyril Axis at all.

Lou Takki
Dec 4, 2009


I really hope Claire can pull Williams up before they crater into the ground of financial ruin. I'm not confident she can, but it would make a great comeback story!

ArmZ
Jun 5, 2004

You are what you want.





Grimey Drawer

since you all are talking about netflix racing docs, i recently watched:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKwfDjfO9Pw

has anyone seen it and do they have any historical context or comments? e.g. on scorpion racing or formula ford

I don't know much about racing but I've watched this, DTS 1 and 2, and the senna doc in the past month or so

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

"This is only the beginning of the reckoning. This is only the first sip, the first foretaste of a bitter cup which will be proffered to us year by year unless, by a supreme recovery of moral health and martial vigour, we arise again and take our stand for freedom as in the olden time."


ArmZ posted:

since you all are talking about netflix racing docs, i recently watched:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKwfDjfO9Pw

has anyone seen it and do they have any historical context or comments? e.g. on scorpion racing or formula ford

I don't know much about racing but I've watched this, DTS 1 and 2, and the senna doc in the past month or so

Watch Gonchi, it's better than Senna.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

. . . and the car would pass him, the driver perhaps feeling a slight chill as if he had driven through an air pocket, his sleeping wife and children stirring uneasily, as if all had been touched with a bad dream at the same instant.

Willy T Ribbs is a Hall of Fame tier name. Holy hell.

GramCracker
Oct 8, 2005


your friend wicka posted:

Seems like a more accurate view than the show itself tbh. I enjoyed the series but they overdramatize certain things and create storylines that don't exist in reality. The "rivalry" between Ricciardo and Sainz doesn't exist, for example.

Also Williams are lovable losers.

This is what happens when you have Will Buxton to narrate and create the story.

jazzyhattrick
Jul 1, 2010

Screw you OP, ain't nobody gonna change my avatar.

Frond posted:

I like Toto.

There's nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do to make me not like Toto.

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019




fomula 1 indy is a reality

https://twitter.com/NobleF1/status/1263943062662807552

Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010



Fallen Rib

jazzyhattrick posted:

There's nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do to make me not like Toto.

Sulman
Apr 29, 2003

What did you do that for?

Drive to Survive is reddit-tier rubbish. It's awful, dramatized fluff. The first season was not bad for all that, the second is storyboarded shite.

If you really want to learn about F1, dig out as many full length races as you can from the last couple of decades. It will tell you more. about the teams and drivers than some served-up warmed over television show.

Edit: I should add, the Tom Clarkson podcasts that F1 have been producing have been excellent.

Sulman fucked around with this message at 22:17 on May 22, 2020

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019




1 is required viewing for every f1 interested person

Custard Undies
Jan 7, 2006




Zeta Acosta posted:

1 is required viewing for every f1 interested person

Agreed, watch 1.

Also, find Super Speedway, it's IndyCar based, but fantastic!

Rudager
Apr 29, 2008


LeeMajors posted:

Does all that seem about right?

No mention of Kimi "it's just like a hobby for me" Raikkonen, 0/10.

Minto Took
Dec 4, 2002



Fun Shoe

LeeMajors posted:

Willy T Ribbs is a Hall of Fame tier name. Holy hell.

Willy T loving owns.

VodeAndreas
Apr 30, 2009



Clapping Larry

Sulman posted:

Drive to Survive is reddit-tier rubbish. It's awful, dramatized fluff. The first season was not bad for all that, the second is storyboarded shite.

If you really want to learn about F1, dig out as many full length races as you can from the last couple of decades. It will tell you more. about the teams and drivers than some served-up warmed over television show.

Edit: I should add, the Tom Clarkson podcasts that F1 have been producing have been excellent.

Season 2 has Rich Energy though.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

. . . and the car would pass him, the driver perhaps feeling a slight chill as if he had driven through an air pocket, his sleeping wife and children stirring uneasily, as if all had been touched with a bad dream at the same instant.

Rudager posted:

No mention of Kimi "it's just like a hobby for me" Raikkonen, 0/10.

Ah poo poo. He was such a small sliver in the series I barely remembered. There's a lot to soak in for a newb. Mea culpa.

Zeta Acosta posted:

1 is required viewing for every f1 interested person

Excellent, reading synopsis seems like exactly the kinda thing I'm looking for.

VodeAndreas posted:

Season 2 has Rich Energy though.

For like 37 seconds, right? Until he realized Haas sucks poo poo?

Sulman posted:

If you really want to learn about F1, dig out as many full length races as you can from the last couple of decades. It will tell you more. about the teams and drivers than some served-up warmed over television show.

I thought it was pretty fun but you're probably right and that's the sort of advice I'm looking for.

Any particular list of low-key legendary races to look for on youtube that are either super fun or very relevant to the overall F1 zeitgeist?

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000


Nobody beats Dick Trickle

track day bro!
Feb 17, 2005



Grimey Drawer

again i love how people here put themselves above redditors, when this was the forum with pedo mods, people making GBS threads on gamecubes, creating ziplines to kill mutliple children, getting their skull crushed by their own truck and instead of going immediately to hosipital posting about it, commiting mass murder, injecting so many drugs and then fell asleep ontop of their arm for so long that it needed to be amputated, buying a 9000 dollar gaming computer whilst living in a rotting trailer with their children, the mod who decided to build the worst house ever, the mod who couldn't shut the gently caress up about beef jerky, I could make this post waaaaaay longer but you get the point but somehow SA is better than reddit because?

Minto Took
Dec 4, 2002



Fun Shoe

VodeAndreas posted:

Season 2 has Rich Energy though.

"Haas and Rich Energy" need their own three-part miniseries.

Minto Took
Dec 4, 2002



Fun Shoe

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

Nobody beats Dick Trickle

Ricky Rudd had the best nascar name imo

Custard Undies
Jan 7, 2006




track day bro! posted:

SA is better than reddit because?

You post here!

VodeAndreas
Apr 30, 2009



Clapping Larry

LeeMajors posted:

For like 37 seconds, right? Until he realized Haas sucks poo poo?

Haven't watched since soon after it came out but I remember them focusing on it long enough to give me a good laugh again (especially as I knew what was coming).

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

. . . and the car would pass him, the driver perhaps feeling a slight chill as if he had driven through an air pocket, his sleeping wife and children stirring uneasily, as if all had been touched with a bad dream at the same instant.

Minto Took posted:

Ricky Rudd had the best nascar name imo

NASCAR really has the market cornered on the most ridiculous, spittoon-adjacent names.

Cale Yarborough isn't remarkable on its face but definitely wears overalls and plays checkers on top of an upturned barrel.

LeeMajors fucked around with this message at 00:36 on May 23, 2020

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004

When it's over I just want to be able to look in the mirror and say, 'Well, you were a half-decent player.'


Im dick trickle

the corona quid
Jan 19, 2014

Posting from my Samsung Galaxy Note 7

track day bro! posted:

again i love how people here put themselves above redditors, when this was the forum with pedo mods, people making GBS threads on gamecubes, creating ziplines to kill mutliple children, getting their skull crushed by their own truck and instead of going immediately to hosipital posting about it, commiting mass murder, injecting so many drugs and then fell asleep ontop of their arm for so long that it needed to be amputated, buying a 9000 dollar gaming computer whilst living in a rotting trailer with their children, the mod who decided to build the worst house ever, the mod who couldn't shut the gently caress up about beef jerky, I could make this post waaaaaay longer but you get the point but somehow SA is better than reddit because?

Okay but counter point, Tony Montana never posted on Reddit and I think all our lives were enriched by his brief posting career.

Minto Took
Dec 4, 2002



Fun Shoe

I think he tried but said they were dumber than us.

marshalljim
Mar 6, 2013

yospos


LeeMajors posted:

I mean, really, what the gently caress happened to Williams?

Nepotism and hiring a goon engineer.

Custard Undies
Jan 7, 2006




marshalljim posted:

Nepotism and hiring a goon engineer.

Renault won 2 championships with a goon engineer working for them, so it's gotta just be Nepotism.

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9fB1IcTD48

Minto Took
Dec 4, 2002



Fun Shoe

nascar.mp4

td4guy
Jun 13, 2005

I always hated that guy.



LeeMajors posted:

Any particular list of low-key legendary races to look for on youtube that are either super fun or very relevant to the overall F1 zeitgeist?
Just check out this playlist on the official F1 Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?li...vZPchn056vJq_Dn

The full 2018 US GP is on there. Worth a watch for sure!

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019




Wildest rumour so far: Elkman wants to sign Toto Wolff to Ferrari

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/v...article-details

Rebus
Jan 18, 2006

Meanwhile, somewhere in Grove, work begins on next season's Williams F1 car...


marshalljim posted:

Nepotism and hiring a goon engineer.

How do you earn your beer tokens?

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poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?


Zeta Acosta posted:

Wildest rumour so far: Elkman wants to sign Toto Wolff to Ferrari

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/v...article-details

Wow, according to the headline "John Elkann penis a Toto Wolff"

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