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We all like Star Wars here, right? This thread is your stop for discussion of the original trilogy, The special editions, and disco! There are no rules in this thread because I assume we will all just be clapping each other on the back in fond remembrance of Yoda and such. Betray Yoda's trust, do not.
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Mar 6, 2020 23:15
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I like the special edition changes and I wish they'd done more work on the speeder chase on Endor because that part looks way worse than a lot of the stuff that did get changed
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Mar 7, 2020 00:14
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wow first blood already
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Mar 7, 2020 00:17
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ungulateman posted:I like the special edition changes and I wish they'd done more work on the speeder chase on Endor because that part looks way worse than a lot of the stuff that did get changed Ah man I love that poo poo, I love the go-motion....It's like the simplest photography trick in the world but it gets so much mileage
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Mar 7, 2020 00:50
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ungulateman posted:I like the special edition changes a lot of them look like poo poo OP
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Mar 7, 2020 00:51
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there is that one scene in most eisley where an alien steps in poo poo. and it looks like poo poo. very realistic.
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Mar 7, 2020 01:02
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA_D__HMuFw&t=356s This poo poo is probably my favorite effects shot in star wars. It's two matte paintings that turn into a model, and the laser flash masks the cut. It's....perfect design
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Mar 7, 2020 01:09
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OG, you say? Yes… Yes. It would be a great asset.
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Mar 7, 2020 03:21
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Well poo poo now we have to rename the entire subforum.
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Mar 7, 2020 03:49
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reignofevil posted:Well poo poo now we have to rename the entire subforum. welp. better start a poll
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Mar 7, 2020 07:11
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:OG, you say? the best emperor, hands down
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Mar 7, 2020 14:04
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The only special edition I’ve seen is A New Hope and most of it was ignorable except the loving awful CGI Jabba and the conversation with him where all of Han Solo’s dialogue is clearly copied and pasted directly from the conversation with Greedo he’d just had 2 minutes before. Are they that bad in the other two movies
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Mar 7, 2020 20:14
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ESB doesn't have much in the way of added stuff, except for cleaned up effects shots and some redone dialogue (bad news if you were a big fan of the original "the first transport is away" guy). The BIG changes are: -They made a costume for the snow monster at the start and you see it eating a hunk of meat and getting up to attack Luke -The Emperor scene is redone, he's now played by Ian McDiarmid and the story is weirdly changed so that Darth Vader seems surprised to find out Luke Skywalker is his son -Cloud City's white hallways are CGIed into windows showing the city outside, making it look a bit like Coruscant from the prequels E: oh yeah, and Boba Fett's dialogue is redone. Same lines but now voiced by Temuera Morrison, aka Jango Fett and the clones from the prequels ROTJ has a few significant ones: -a brief clip of some band playing becomes a full-on CGI muppet musical number -when Vader is watching the Emperor electrocute Luke, he says "no" flatly and then yells it when he picks up the Emperor -the end where Luke burns Vader's body and we pan up to fighters flying past letting off fireworks becomes a clip show showing people celebrating the fall of the Empire on Cloud City, Naboo, Tatooine and Coruscant. The jolly ewok song from the ending is replaced with something more orchestrated sounding, and Anakin's ghost is now Hayden Christensen I don't much care about the special edition changes for the most part; the Special Effect Rings coming off big explosions is stupid, Jabba in episode 4 is dumb, and the reprise of "noooooo!" was unnecessary, but I was young enough when I came out that I don't have any particular attachment to the originals
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Mar 7, 2020 20:33
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FunkyAl posted:Ah man I love that poo poo, I love the go-motion....It's like the simplest photography trick in the world but it gets so much mileage That's not what go-motion is!!!
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Mar 7, 2020 20:57
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2house2fly posted:ESB doesn't have much in the way of added stuff, except for cleaned up effects shots and some redone dialogue (bad news if you were a big fan of the original "the first transport is away" guy). The BIG changes are: I hate the emperor change a lot more than any of the others, A) Because the monkey eyes are a cool effect, and B) Having alec guiness playing the emperor adds an interesting dimension to the overall piece. Mooey Cow posted:That's not what go-motion is!!! It's Almost what go motion is...
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Mar 7, 2020 21:19
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Those loving rings. Also the musical number, but mostly, Those loving rings.
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Mar 8, 2020 00:46
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https://youtu.be/DXpmunmG5ss
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Mar 8, 2020 00:52
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2house2fly posted:-They made a costume for the snow monster at the start and you see it eating a hunk of meat and getting up to attack Luke isn't this a cleanup of a filmed scene they originally discarded?
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Mar 8, 2020 01:54
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the added wampa shots are an improvement, maybe the only unambiguous one in the special editions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG2ooKr5zP8
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Mar 8, 2020 02:56
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I'm rewatching the empire strikes back now, There's a scene of R2 "scanning" for luke with a little satellite shortly before he encounters the ghost of obi wan. Han solo has a a huge radio scanner looking thing with antennae as well, and luke has a little headphone with an antenna. Here's my hypothesis: Artoo is projecting Obi-Wan whenever we see or hear him. This was a LONG range transmission however, and In a sense establishes Artoo as a powerful jedi in his own right. He probably learned more from yoda than luke.
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Mar 8, 2020 07:12
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FunkyAl posted:I'm rewatching the empire strikes back now, There's a scene of R2 "scanning" for luke with a little satellite shortly before he encounters the ghost of obi wan. Han solo has a a huge radio scanner looking thing with antennae as well, and luke has a little headphone with an antenna. Artoobi-Wan theory may yet grow to rival Bigger Luke theory.
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Mar 8, 2020 18:03
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his full name is R2-D2-OB1
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Mar 8, 2020 19:26
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Maybe r2 was projecting obiwan even as early as a new hope when he projected those rocks in front of himself
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Mar 8, 2020 21:23
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reignofevil posted:Maybe r2 was projecting obiwan even as early as a new hope when he projected those rocks in front of himself he projected alec guinesses hairline
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Mar 9, 2020 01:47
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Squizzle posted:the added wampa shots are an improvement, maybe the only unambiguous one in the special editions eh. I even vote no on that. the original version was like a scene from a horror movie. tension builds better when you can't see it imo
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Mar 9, 2020 06:26
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Maybe the answer was moodier lighting or shadows. we can all wonder
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Mar 11, 2020 06:42
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQTdOcYK9Ds Documentary about Matte Painting B)
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Mar 14, 2020 23:49
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ungulateman posted:I like the special edition changes and I wish they'd done more work on the speeder chase on Endor because that part looks way worse than a lot of the stuff that did get changed It really does. I remember finally getting the original films in HD and being shocked to see that the speeder chase held up way better on my 90s VHS tapes
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Mar 16, 2020 02:56
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It takes work for me to judge the movies objectively, since I watched them far enough back that they're wedged into my brain in points before I learned to think critically. Something about the lighting inside the X-Wings during the battle of the Death Star warps me back to a mall parking garage in Connecticut. They're definitely good though. Probably.
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Mar 16, 2020 04:08
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I don't hate Hayden as Anakin's ghost I just really like Sebastian Shaw as Anakin's ghost. 
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Mar 16, 2020 09:45
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FunkyAl posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQTdOcYK9Ds Very nice. I've always admired those people's ability to paint so realistically, but of course it's a painstaking process that could take months per painting.
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Mar 16, 2020 12:19
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Tomtrek posted:I don't hate Hayden as Anakin's ghost I just really like Sebastian Shaw as Anakin's ghost. At a minimum they should have made him look older. Vader's at least in his 40s. Christensen that is.
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Mar 16, 2020 13:30
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I always appreciated that Luke got a father at the end. How is a teenager supposed to be his father?
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Mar 16, 2020 13:32
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Maybe Shaw should have kept the burns as a ghost. Maybe he should have had even more burns as Luke set him on fire, and he'd be like "hey thanks for setting me on fire you dumbass, now I'm a hosed up ghost".
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Mar 16, 2020 13:45
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Tomtrek posted:I don't hate Hayden as Anakin's ghost I just really like Sebastian Shaw as Anakin's ghost. i dont hate it either but its a neat moment when you go “wait whos that third person- ohhh”
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Mar 16, 2020 14:06
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I'm sure avoiding the complete awkwardness of Anakin Skywalker being younger than Luke Skywalker is the reason the former never showed up in the sequel trilogy. As for Sebastian Shaw, he radiates "nice middle-aged guy" and the pathos that evokes when he's the unmasked, dying Vader is kind of wonderful. Just the image of this old man with a bittersweet expression on his scarred face, lying in his mechanical armor of evil conveys the entire tragedy of the character.
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Mar 16, 2020 15:44
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:I'm sure avoiding the complete awkwardness of Anakin Skywalker being younger than Luke Skywalker is the reason the former never showed up in the sequel trilogy. I’m sure that has nothing to do with it.
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Mar 16, 2020 17:03
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Remember in Obi-Wan's hut when him and Luke are talking, 3PO goes "if you don't mind I'm gonna switch off now". He's like "I don't wanna listen to this boring poo poo, I'd rather be literally unconscious".
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Mar 16, 2020 22:34
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Mooey Cow posted:Remember in Obi-Wan's hut when him and Luke are talking, 3PO goes "if you don't mind I'm gonna switch off now". And Luke's like "sure whatever" because he gives no fucks about 3PO.
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Mar 16, 2020 23:25
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That was another kind of weird non sequitur moment. I wonder if they just didn't want C3PO butting in with "oh my" and "my goodness" during all the exposition
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Mar 16, 2020 23:57
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