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 Is anyone watching the Hulu miniseries Devs, created by Alex Garland (Ex Machina, Annihilation) and starring Sonoya Mizuno as a San Francisco techbro and Nick Offerman as a San Francisco techbro? Here's an article about it.  Sonoya plays Lily Chan, a programmer who works at Amaya, a tech company run by Offerman's character Forest. Various things occur. We're 2 episodes into the 8 episode run right now and the main theme seems to be centered around free will and determinism. There's also a lot of stuff about loss, loneliness, and isolation. And... Russians...  I don't know if I like it yet, but now that The Good Place is over I need something to fill the "TV about philosophy" hole in my heart so I'm going to keep watching. So far the show hasn't really delved deeply into the themes but I think it's safe to say that stuff will come sooner or later. There are some rather pretty shots and some great use of music to set the mood. Stephen McKinley Henderson plays a cantakerous older techbro and that is fun.  Already the show seems to deeply misunderstand compatibilism, which means it would fail an intro to philosophy course about free will, but I might not be giving it enough credit, since after all it has just been characters talking, and it's not clear whether we're meant to think they have any understanding of what is going on.
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large_gourd posted:i'm kinda taking a glance from a distance at this and waiting to see if other people say it's good. the trailer both piqued my interest and made it seem likely that it's a bunch of bullshit with its 'what is behind the mystery door' 'EVERYTHING' talk, because that usually turns out to be a bunch of crap especially when they lead with that and i didn't really pick up on anything else going on, but it's just a trailer.
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muscles like this! posted:Episode 3 chat:
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Mar 13, 2020 01:34
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poo poo's getting real!
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If you like Garland I suggest Ex Machina - it's definitely of a piece with his other stuff. I like it a lot. Great Oscar Isaac performance, plus the Devs lead is in it!
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Meshka posted:The people living in the machine in the end are not real, just really advanced ai entities that are indistinguishable from the people they are suppose to represent. From the point of view of the show I think it is clear you are wrong: in the world as depicted in the show, AI entities are real people, because they have everything that matters about real people. They have all the same thoughts and memories and feelings and so on. You could disagree with the show and say that, in our actual reality (unlike the reality in which the show takes place) these people would just be simulations, not actual people. Obviously the show doesn't have to be correct: it's just what some guy thinks about philosophy. But you should think very clearly about what you are doing when you say this. When you say this, you are advancing a substantive philosophical view which is far from obvious. (In fact, the majority of philosophers would probably disagree, although it's not a huge majority.) If you're interested in the topic, the idea that the people are real would follow from endorsing what is known in philosophy as functionalism about the mind, plus accepting that the AI entities are in fact indistinguishable from real people. You are here rejecting functionalism, and saying you think some other theory of the mind is correct (because you are accepting that the AI entities are in fact indistinguishable).
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