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Jul 19, 2009
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I was super into the first three books but only read the forth once. Then I was like"this sucks". For the rest I just made my mom read them and summarize them for me

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Jul 19, 2009
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hagrid got in trouble for raising a litter of werewolves under his bed as a student

in the HP series, canonically, werewolves are human beings

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Jul 19, 2009
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wtf lmao

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Jul 19, 2009
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Fritzler posted:

Honestly the World Cup was confusing to me when I read the books too. They go to find a port key in the area, and are like “are there any other of us wizards around?” “I don’t think so”, but they’re not sure. Like what does the average wizard do when they’re not working (which is either at hogwarts or for the government as far as I see)? They don’t know who wizards who live around them. They obviously don’t converse with nearby muggles either. Do the teleport to daigon alley whenever they want to do anything social? Something else? I have no idea what a wizards personal life is like if they don’t work at hogwarts, and i can’t really guess what they do.

Masturbate

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Jul 19, 2009
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The success of the books was predicated on kids wanting to attend hogwarts. I never did. I thought it sounded loving awful. The teachers all have massive personality disorders and the headmaster is a dipshit who openly plays favorites. Kids die. You learn to lift a feather with your brain? Who cares.

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Jul 19, 2009
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Play Morrowind and don't have a gruesomely murdered dead girl soul in your toilet

Like explicitly electronics didn't work so also you couldn't use Microsoft Encarta or anything just their shitass encyclopedias that burp or whatever

They wrote with quills! Get the gently caress out of town

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Jul 19, 2009
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Dumbledore is not only gay, but he's a terrible person

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Jul 19, 2009
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I honestly honestly however find extreme interest in harry potter past the age of 16 to be an enormous red flag

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Jul 19, 2009
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I'm very good at avoiding anime fans so I don't know

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Jul 19, 2009
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Whats anime

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Jul 19, 2009
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:hmmyes:

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Jul 19, 2009
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The main thing I remember is that Harry is a dicknuts who doesn't ask enough questions or care enough about the answers.

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Jul 19, 2009
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I went to see the movie with my father who had not read the books and he was completely baffled

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Jul 19, 2009
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VanSandman posted:

The problem here is, nobody is posting as a ride-or-die fan of the franchise. I like the seven books for what they are, decent children/teen entertainment, but I'm not a superfan. We need a Potterhead to get in here and start madposting at Pick for this to get real fun.

hell yes i would be able to irritate the poo poo out of that person

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Jul 19, 2009
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tbh I think that they're just fluff at the outset and that's better than trying to be Epic

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Jul 19, 2009
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Tonks was a Hufflepuff

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Jul 19, 2009
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Roth posted:

I apparently confused her with her mother who was sorted into Slytherin and married a muggle. I guess I'm technically correct?

The best kind of correct

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Jul 19, 2009
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Dawgstar posted:

People should be Ravenclaw which is like being Slytherin but without the hate crimes.

I don't remember much about them aside from them being too smart to get wrapped up in a lot of the horse poo poo. wise indeed.

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Jul 19, 2009
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jocks, evils, fats, nerds

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Jul 19, 2009
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SolarFire2 posted:

A very good friend of mine is a potterhead, and when the sorting quiz came out she eagerly took it in front of her Husband to prove what a total Gryffindor she was. Result: Hufflepuff.

She was so angry she put in a different email address and took the test over. And got Hufflepuff again. Needless to say even her daughter bullies her relentlessly about this.

Incredible

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Jul 19, 2009
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Especially because quizzes are super obvious?

You see a rabbit in the middle of the field in a hawk is coming. What do you do?

1. I bravely rush in and save the rabbit, with courage
2. I ran over and I kick the rabbit because I'm evil and then I punch the hawk also and steal it's wallet
3. I observe nature and make notes in my smart person journal about knowing things
4. Find a big stupid dumb dumb and I roll around in the grass like a fool (loyally)

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Jul 19, 2009
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Breakfast Burrito posted:

Hufflepuff is the best house though because the rest are elitist fucks, there's that poem or song or whatever about the founders that's all "I'm gryffindor and I'll only teach brave kids, I'm slytherin and I'll only teach little nazis, I'm ravenclaw and I'll only teach self declared geniuses" and then hufflepuff is like "I'll take anyone" which to me seems like the only acceptable attitude for an educator

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Jul 19, 2009
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My ambition would be to make all the witches and wizards have to get jobs that loving help people

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Jul 19, 2009
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They can literally summit up food out of nothing, even ignoring that some people still live with food insecurity, you could suddenly have cruelty free meat.

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Jul 19, 2009
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Just loving higher some sort of jack rear end to summon hams, that's like a pretty easy spell, you can just teach them ham summoning, they will summer bunch of hams, you can give them away. Yes it will have some economic impacts, but people could have lots of ham and no pigs would even be hurt

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Jul 19, 2009
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Sleeveless posted:

I assumed the magic was just summoning existing food because otherwise why would the school need a huge kitchen and staff of slaves to make food for everyone.

cuz tthey're loving assholes

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Jul 19, 2009
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Barudak posted:

Regarding being a hufflepuff via online quiz, I remember there was one that seemed normal like the others but no matter what you put in you were put in hufflepuff for exactly that reason

That is loving hilarious

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Jul 19, 2009
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if you're in the vicinity of magic you can't set a bone. magic prevents it. magic's a real fuckin pain in the noots

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Jul 19, 2009
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Ugh Voldemort winning is just like the time that german guy took over the chancellorship

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Jul 19, 2009
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ungulateman posted:

it's insane because there's this huge, detailed paragraph in the order of the pheonix where the ministry of magic has this big dumb statue in the middle of their foyer depicting how wizards think of their relationship with other magical creatures and harry outright thinks 'that's bullshit' and then the rest of the books just completely drops this pretty important idea and it's never addressed again. it might be the third-most written about thing in fanfiction, after harry having gay sex and being a member of the nobility

tbh that's the cool part. is the weird animals. like that's the poo poo everybody likes. big snake!! woah!!

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Jul 19, 2009
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The series should have stayed whimsical because its core premise is incompatible with serious examination

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Jul 19, 2009
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Butternubs posted:

Is the sorting hat sentient? does it just sit in a cupboard 364 days a year? is it's life a living hell? going by what we know of the HP universe the answer to all these is probably yes.

here's a list of all 578 fanfictions tagged with the character Sorting Hat so if you read all of those you'll probably get a good sense of what it's up to

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Jul 19, 2009
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

Is it ever at any point made clear how many wizards there actually are or the scale of wizard socitey? The only prominent employers ever seen is the ministry of magic amd hogwarts. What level of private imdustry is there amd of theres none how is the ministry funded? Is Wizard society secretly socialist or communist?

Yes, and if I recall she said it was like 6000 people in the U.K. , which even as a kid was the moment I realized this was all really dumb. Like imagine the stupidest little town that you drive through in the crappy part of your state, and that's the entire population of wizards in the UK. And that's almost the only people that they gently caress. Worse than Iceland.

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Jul 19, 2009
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Barudak posted:

Fantasy authors, and frankly people in general, are really bad at estimating how large populations need to be to support various institutions and levels of society so Im not blaming her. She also never said hard numbers as I recall in the books so what ever else shes gurgling out from her bowels is even less relevant.

I think my favorite was the post apocalyptic sci-fi setting where an entire self sufficient agrarian community was capable of maintaining and upgraded fighter jets with a population of like 50 people.

I know I just like complaining about it and it's nostalgic because I complained about it even as a precocious little insufferable teen :v:

Scale is something that's just really hard to gauge in abstracts. I just remember laughing at that specifically though because I went and looked up cities in my home state with 6k populations and was like "lmao the wizarding world in the UK is the size of Madras?????" jesus at least they can gently caress their cousins in Culver :v:

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Jul 19, 2009
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Sydin posted:

Bartimaeus is a lot better about it because mages few in number on purpose since they're effectively an aristocracy. Anybody with the knowledge how can summon a spirit and gain access to magic, so the mages in that series are much more about controlling availability of information and intentionally obscuring the source of their magic so non-mages are ignorant and easily cowed into servitude. Also unlike Harry Potter which waffles on whether wizards would be in actual danger if muggles found out about their society at large, Bartimaeus states clearly that mages only keep the rest of society underfoot by means of fear and if they ever did rise up at any significant scale mages would be toast.

The books are hugely different in many aspects but Bartimaeus has a way more interesting and nuanced take on "modern British society but with magic" premise.

I thought those books were very good. almost too good for what they were.

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Jul 19, 2009
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Tulip posted:


The World Quidditch Cup has the talent pool of a county lmao

lol

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Jul 19, 2009
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I think JKR is a massive troll and has been before her lovely social takes. I don't know the solution really. She does it for the attention but you do have to point out her views are lovely too.

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Jul 19, 2009
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Yeah but how progressive is it to have a bisexual character named Slutty Boobs

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Jul 19, 2009
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SlothfulCobra posted:

Honestly, it's kinda generous to assume Rowling gave any thought at all to the background details of the setting, because the whole reason why there are all these horrible implications if you think about anything at length is because you're giving more thought to anything than she did.

Which is a big part of why Harry Potter isn't a solid foundation for expanding into a wider franchise.

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Jul 19, 2009
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amigolupus posted:

It's interesting to examine the Weasleys in this lens, especially with regard to Percy. He may have been a government stooge, but it really wasn't surprising that Percy would break away from his family in book five.

First off, hardly anyone in the family actually respects Percy as a person; Molly sees him as a measuring stick to tell the others to study more or to get real jobs in the government, the twins constantly harass him with impunity (like shutting him inside a pyramid or sending him dragon poo poo at work or putting diluted poison in his tea), Ron thinks Percy's attempts at looking out for him is just putting on airs and happily talks poo poo about Percy for being ambitious, and Ginny ends up following her other brothers' footsteps and think Percy's a pain as well. There's also the part where Percy really should have been in Slytherin because he's ambitious and driven, but his parents poisoned his mind by telling him that Slytherin is the Evil House,something we see Ron say to Harry back in book 1. So instead of nurturing Percy's drive to succeed, it's seen as a source of ridicule.

It doesn't get better once Percy started working for the Ministry. It's true that while lots of wizards are friendly with Arthur, he's not really well-respected and everyone knows him as that crazy guy who loves tinkering with Muggle objects. Percy's the first in the family to follow their dad and work for the government, so he experienced the brunt of people expecting him to be another Arthur or whispering behind his back. Percy had to work twice as hard to overcome all of that, and it's really no wonder he started to resent his dad.

So after the events of book 4, Percy faces an inquiry for not realizing Crouch Sr. was under the Imperius, which, to be fair, was the exact point of that curse. He's making GBS threads himself with fear that he's about to get fired from his very first job, but instead finds out that he got promoted to personal assistant of the minister. He's too relieved that he's not fired to think it through and just wanted to share the good news to his family, who doesn't react the way he thinks they would. Instead of telling him they're proud of him, they tell him that the minister is only using him to spy on them and Dumbledore, that all his hard work didn't matter. It makes it sound like the Weasleys fully expected Percy to spy on them for Fudge, and not that he'd be a professional and wouldn't let anything slip.

And then when Percy expressed doubt against Dumbledore and Harry, the rest of the Weasleys seem to think it's a personal attack on them, and not that Percy just wanted some solid proof of the claim because he's being rational and doesn't want to just blindly believe Dumbledore's word. He probably would've believed it if someone showed him Harry's memories or something. So the line about Percy not going back to the family because it was harder to accept being proven wrong was a load of bullshit. So I guess instead of being like the Dursleys, the Weasleys are more similar to the Blacks, where not falling in line with the rest of the family means you get ostracized.

the weasleys are trash

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