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DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Snow Cone Capone posted:

Post your first punk shows

Mine was Bigwig, Ensign and the Suicide Machines

I think mine was The Business with Tiger Army opening for them. There were two other bands there too but I cant remember if they were any good. It was a very good show and I had fun.

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DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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In the early 2000s Dallas actually had a pretty decent punk scene going in Deep Ellum. A lot of bands would stop off on their way to Austin or while going coast to coast. I even got see some of the older past their prime bands like The Cramps and Stiff Little Fingers. The guys from Stiff Little Fingers were really bitchy on stage and threatened to storm off twice, and watching Lux Interior encourage a crowd of like 50 people to "tear the place apart" on a Thursday night was kind of sad. It was still cool to see those guys play. I still regret missing The Addicts when they passed through.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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I hadn't heard of X until I finally got around to watching Decline of Western Civilization. They're loving amazing and the fact that they never made it big is proof of how dumb the music industry is.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Also anyone ever been to one of Mike Watt's project band shows? I caught him and The Secondmen in Little Rock like 15 years ago and it was horrible. One of the worst live shows Ive been too. I was never clear if that is normal for him or if they just didn't give a poo poo since they were playing in the back room of a pizza place in Arkansas.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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PinkoBastard posted:

That’s true but also X got pretty fuckin bad - See How We Are is truly abysmal and the title track has some casual racism to boot. I remember seeing some videos of Exene talking a while back and it didn’t seem she was doing so hot - going on about conspiracy stuff (don’t remember specifically but i think it was Obama-related)

I havent really kept up with anyone from X or any other band for that matter so I did like five seconds of googlings and.... yikes.....

Wikipedia" posted:

Cervenka, as a self-styled "conspiracy therapist," has provoked controversy on social media and on YouTube, under the name "Christine Notmyrealname," by advancing conspiracy theories including the view that the Isla Vista shootings were a hoax designed to bring about stricter gun control laws. After the backlash, she has issued an apology on her Facebook and Twitter accounts and her conspiracy related YouTube videos are no longer available for viewing.[22][23][24]

I suppose pretty much everyone involved in punk from that era is a boomer so some of them getting older and getting into weird boomer poo poo shouldnt be all that surprising. Thats sad and disappointing nonetheless.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Unless youre that one weirdo who writes for Reason and never shuts up about how punk rock is actually libertarian because Agnostic Front.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Literally A Person posted:

To be fair one of the saddest thing about being into punk rock is the number of people you know who as they aged decided that they DID want to be libertarians.

I didnt sell out! I bought in!

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Didnt Tim Armstrong have some kind of meltdown after the guy from Queens of the Stone Age started dating his wife? Not that I blame him but I dont think their music ever quite bounced back from whatever happened with that.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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opie posted:

I remember having agnostic front in my playlist, but for the life of me can’t remember any songs or even what album I would’ve played. Same with sick of it all. I think they were more my boyfriend’s thing.

I saw rancid some time ago and the dude looked like he just got up from his death bed. Stood in the back hiding with his hat and trench coat. I never really cared for rancid but went to see goldfinger.

Every Agnotic Front song is basically them shouting some inane lyric over a thrash guitar and drums. They all kind of bleed together after a while. I do have to give them credit for introducing me to a few old bands from when oi/tavern rock were still really similar. Stuff like Cock Sparer.

Oh, and this is their one song whose lyrics seem as relevant now as they were then; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9ZHy_5gC50

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

Shut up, Nick! You're not Twilight.

Paddyo posted:


"The Decline of Western Civilization" is another good one, even though it kind of comes off like a Darby Crash snuff film. There are some freaking awesome performances by Fear (one of my favorites) and Black Flag though, and it's worth watching just for the show footage.

Decline and the portrait it paints of Darby is pretty interesting. Hes like a person to dumb to actually function in society leading a band of people who had never played instruments until they met him, all somehow making some pretty good music together . And then there was their poor manager who looked so absolutely desperate to find a new job.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Well, I think most of us just grow older and become full time parents largely devoted to our children yet never quite comfortable with our growing affluence due to our partners successful career. That or just OD on something. You could always try one of those?

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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ProperCoochie posted:

Jeff Rosenstock released a new album yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P92SB9lGg_E

It's pretty good. No Worry. but nothing else ever really could be.

I really dig that visual format for listening to the album. I dont think Ive ever seen something like that before and found it to be really chilled out to watch/listen to.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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What are some of the threads all time favorite albums? I still listen to London Calling pretty routinely even though that feels kind of cliche, and I know its not really an album but a compilation but No Thanks! The 70s Punk Rebellion is probably one of the best single punk rock things ever.

And has anyone posted something by The Buzzcocks yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G8tTjSrm3g

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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I saw those guys play live a long time ago at a club that probably no longer exists. They had Bowling For Soup open for them, which was kind of confusing but they put on an awesome show. For some reason I never listened to much of their music though. Looks like its time to fix that.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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LloydDobler posted:

For those of us who listened to punk rock but grew up and had kids, so did (some of) the punk rockers. I loving love this movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZkWHZ3hJtY

I look forward to checking this out. My kids are just now old enough to start appreciating The Aquabats, who have some awesome kids content on Youtbe by the way, so mohawks and ripped clothes are a long way off. We are on the right path though!

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Didn't Bad Brains have a few songs that were blatantly homophobic like Don't Blow Bubbles?

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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It seems like even the big name older bands all had some poo poo head associated with them. The Ramones had Johnny go off the deep end over baseball and Republican politics, Sex Pistols were the Sex Pistols, etc etc. Did The Clash have anyone go that way though? I dont remember ever hearing a bad word about those dudes over the years.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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I just realized that list has Screeching Weasel but not The Queers. How shameful.

Although speaking of punk rock shitheads, the way Ben Weasel and all the other guys in his little orbit have turned out is pretty saddening. So many of the people who got started in that era should have retired a long time ago.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Paddyo posted:

Would the Pogues count as folk punk? Because the Pogues rule.

Ive never really been clear on how The Pogues got classified as punk in the first place/. Maybe it was because of Shane' dental hygiene? But Im glad they did because thats how I first found their music. It seems like during the late 70s there was a tendency to just lump any band that didnt fit neatly into any other genre in with punk. It lead to some really great bands being called punk despite seemingly having no connection at all with the style.

If the pogues are punk theyre definitely folk punk. Seriously, look at the variety of folk style instruments they utilized. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l14aDp-4NKk

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Lets definitely go down that road. I never heard of those guys and I feel like I should have.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Ive always thought Sham 69 was a better example of early UK punk than the Sex Pistols. I get that the Sex Pistols came first, but they were basically the worlds worst boy band. They didnt really have much to say other than the occasional shock song like God Save The Queen and were better known for their antics during interviews than anything. Sham 69 actually had something to say and said it, they also made music that was actually pretty good.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Phlegmish posted:



Cockney Rejects:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_riKXE86Nlk

^ I've always felt like this is the unofficial Oi! anthem, appropriately titled Oi Oi Oi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWnUNp8QEpc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lREDv6uU7o

^ Continuing with the police theme



This is another band I really enjoy. They also did some really good songs that showed off their pub rock roots like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP3tkqx0U5M Its a shame how so much of Oi music got coopted by Neo Nazis despite pretty much every band involved in the genre making it clear they wanted nothing at all to do with that poo poo. It makes the genre hard to talk about with people who arent particularly familiar with it. Just another example of why fascism sucks.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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tardwrangler posted:

"Pistols were a boy band" is the gooniest loving thing. How old are you?

I think this is the first time Ive ever seen that statement considered controversial. Just because the Sex Pistols played a different genre of music than most boy bands doesnt mean they were as heavily managed as other boy bands like The Monkees. Im not sure how old I should be to understand that.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Vindicate the Sex Pistols about what? Im sorry if I somehow be-smudged the honor of your favorite band, but are you really not aware of the role Malcolm McLaren played in their management?

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Dell_Zincht posted:


Without the Sex Pistols there would likely be no Joy Division, Buzzcocks, The Smiths, etc

Im pretty skeptical about this. By the time McClaren put the Sex Pistols together guys like Richard Hell were already making some waves in NYC and Velvet Underground had been around for over a decade. The influences that lead to bands like The Buzzcocks and lots of other good bands were already out there. The Sex Pistols have kind of an outsized image in punk rock because of how much media attention they garnered, but their influence is actually way smaller. Lots of other important UK punk bands also formed in '75 that were way more influential, Sham 69 being a noteworthy example.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Did Morrissey ever end up on Judge Judy like Johnny Rotten?

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Literally A Person posted:

You are kidding, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTgVLDvS_GI

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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uber_stoat posted:

is pere ubu punk? i've always found it kinda wild that someone was making noises like this in like1975 ffs. or earlier if you count rocket from the tombs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VelS-YCtHV4



I hope so. They had some awesome music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvcsO6cYLus

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Literally A Person posted:

Is this the most punk rock or the least puck rock thing I've ever seen???

I am still so confused by it that I dont know what to think. Aside from that its funny, because it is very funny.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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On the topic of ska, I just found out that the really good and totally not a ska band Pain apparently has reunited under the name Salvo and is working on a new album. Hopefully it wont suck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtTXHWiwTk8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxb8DPWaStA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqLqTl9vXmY

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Oh wow apparently the album has been out for like a year. This is what I get for spending most of my time these days listening to NPR rather than music.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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In all fairness Third Wave Ska was a pretty big poo poo show with a ton of terrible bands. For every awesome band like The Toasters there were probably ten horrible one hit wonders whose names I cant even think of.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Streetlight Manifesto is a subpar ska band and the way they are elevated while much more talented and better bands from third wave are ignored is shameful. There, I said it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QsdyRID8qU

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Anyone ever listen to The Briefs? Theyre one of those punk bands that had some brief popularity during the Bush 43 era. A guy who ran a DAOC free shard I played on got me into them shortly before he went crazy and accused everyone of hacking his PC/brain. He had good taste in music but its a shame he couldnt stay on his meds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7PyMkMYTjE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5BYbKPN1mE

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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I'm glad Greg is still out there showing us that playing guitar isn't just for the cool kids. Can we start a Kickstarter to get him a new haircut though?

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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I find Blondie really interesting. With the aesthetic she had it seems like it must have always been obvious she was going to go on to be a massive pop star, but her work in punk is damned near genre defining. She is responsible for a lot of very good music. Obviously she is wildly talented but I can never help but wonder how she ended up hanging out at CBGBs with that particular crowd.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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albany academy posted:

Debbie harry is cool as gently caress, mystery solved

This is the correct answer.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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I guess it was only a matter of time before the thread got around to discussing Fugazi.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Phlegmish posted:

Blondie's the band, not the singer! You failed the test, not a true fan. Harry's voice is great, but the band in its entirety is responsible for all those early tunes I love:


Its not that simple! Harry described herself as playing the character Blondie for the purpose of fronting for the band! So Debbie Harry is Blondie and Blondie is also the collection of musicians playing music under the band named Blondie, because cocaine is a hell of a drug, no doubt.

I need to pick up her memoir, along with that awesome looking Henry and Glenn book with the Tom of Finland style cover art.

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DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

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Phlegmish posted:

I might do a country-themed post about the Netherlands tomorrow, I don't think we have any Dutch goons here so I'll have to pick up the slack.



I would love that. I suspect a lot of posters in this thread are familiar with at least some country music. Ive always liked Johnny Cash and recently became a big Willie Nelson fan. Country music in general has a well deserved bad reputation, but there are some real diamonds in the rough(not that Cash or Willie are exactly obscure names, theyre just artists I had zero familiarity with due to not liking country music) that I think punk fans can appreciate.

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