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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yJ6KZr6LVE
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2020 00:22 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 15:08 |
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I was about to edit this in there but now it’s for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFaXYsdEsGs
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2020 00:28 |
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One of the all time best New York hardcore bands imo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSjf5MIX6xY Did I already post them? gently caress Oh well here’s more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3XuyC7Hg-s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s6UikQpGYk
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2020 17:04 |
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I saw Flower open for Swordwielder and they were pretty great. Had never heard of em before, nice surprise.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2020 23:23 |
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Flower am good
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2020 23:30 |
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caleb posted:I spent a bunch of money to record with legendary nyhc dude Don Fury and I like all of this "two 57s in a room" stuff like Flower much better than how our record turned out. I guess I got to hear weird stories about Madball but at the end of the day... I'm never paying anyone to record my bands ever again. Yeah my band recorded w him almost 30 years ago and some of our rehearsal tapes sounded much better. Not as clean, in fact they sounded kind of awful but way more powerful than how he did it. But also he barely paid attention.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2020 00:10 |
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caleb posted:You probably got the Coney island days. He was in a basement in the lower east side or nolita or something, I can barely remember. I was there with two bands, first was like 1988, I almost forgot about that. That recording is a loving nightmare but I can only blame that on our total lack of ability.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2020 00:48 |
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I said it was bad but this was my first band, we were all in high school and recorded these tracks for a late 80s nyhc comp but didn’t make the cut. In retrospect we wouldn’t have been the worst band on there. We broke up soon after this and never even released a demo so to have a few songs come out on this mixtape 30 years later was pretty awesome. There’s some very cool people on that tape and the book is good too if you’re into graffiti and hardcore. We did the last three songs on side B: http://wardancerecords.bandcamp.com/album/urban-styles-mix-tape-side-b E- if it wasn’t clear the mixtape came with the book, check out the book here https://deathwishinc.com/products/urban-styles-graffiti-in-new-york-hardcore-by-freddy-alva Oh hey wait he did a little write up about it. I’ll shut up now https://www.noecho.net/features/urban-styles-mixtape-the-soundtrack-to-the-nyhc-book Snowy fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Jul 14, 2020 |
# ¿ Jul 14, 2020 03:31 |
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It was new breed And that Chaka Kahn picture is surprising and cool
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2020 06:55 |
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caleb posted:I am a sucker for intro tracks like Rival Mob, Righteous Jams, etc. Your vocalist sounded like Darby and that's Everyone needed intros in the late 80s, having a moshy stompy thing seemed like the cool guy way to go. And yeah he had an unusual style, I never knew quite how to describe it. Serious Party Gods posted:Dude "No New Dreams" is weird as poo poo. Neat. Feels truly unwieldy. A lot of people say they don’t know how to play their instruments but then they put out normal sounding songs and play on the beat. We didn’t know poo poo and it shows What I’m really happy about was just having that tape come out so long after the fact, so I could be like “look I was in an 80s nyhc band and I can prove it!” Like all of a sudden we existed after just being a weird memory. albany academy posted:Thats cool as poo poo! Did you ever play with any of those bands? No, we never played any shows. That was toward the end of CBs matinees being any good imo and ABC no Rio’s weirder punker scene took over for me shortly after that. I ended up playing early shows w dropdead and disrupt, bands like that, but not many nyhc bands. I feel like Breakdown played a show we did but I have no proof of that.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2020 01:13 |
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albany academy posted:so that means you must have seen born against? Yeah a few times at ABC, I loved them and Life’s Blood, Dear Jesus zine and all that. Then my friend Daryl became their drummer for a while, that was fun. I think he’s on the flexi.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2020 05:03 |
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This is my evening soundtrack, because I listened to some Witch and thought about other J Mascis stuff I like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0me54Ly3Qc
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2020 01:40 |
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This old Brazilian punk dude sends me lots of pictures and links, he just got an Alehammer picture disc and I had never heard of them. Side project by Doom members apparently? Sounds good so far to me, might be old news to everyone else. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUhH58UyhhM E- I mean it is from 2007
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2020 02:00 |
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I found a 12” by The Action a long time back, they were a Canadian band who got signed to a major label when people thought punk was going to be huge. TV is on the blink is like a early TV Party https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0o-feHeoRA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KioPdUUwHYI
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2020 18:40 |
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Serious Party Gods posted:Are you Canadian? No hate! No, it was in a dusty old little record store in Manhattan. They also had a test pressing of Black Flag’s The First Four Years for a few bucks so that was cool.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2020 13:44 |
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caleb posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrugYB7dPOA Say what?
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2020 17:47 |
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caleb posted:Look up like 5 posts I guess I would rather keep talking about records post a song snowy and I will listen to it Oh that’s disappointing I thought one of the misfits had a nice freakout or something. Anyway, less YouTube links, more stories ”THE DAY I GOT BOMBED AT A DEAD KENNEDYS SHOW” posted:We all knew it wasn’t the best place for a show. There had been a brawl with locals at a Black Flag–SOA show the year before. I probably shouldn’t have returned, but I wanted Danny to see the Dead Kennedys, so we headed over to the Starlite. https://www.ozy.com/true-and-stories/the-day-i-got-bombed-at-a-dead-kennedys-show/88210/
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2020 18:06 |
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If you like stories about LA punk, gangs, and drugs, make sure to check out this site https://jamesgenocide.com/ Have a few quotes! quote:The Clash had played at The Hollywood Palladium and it was Sold Out. John of Circle One came over to The Cathay and started mustering some people to rush the front doors of The Palladium. So we all followed him over to Sunset Blvd in front of the doors of The Hollywood Palladium and waited. John Macias organized everyone on Sunset to get ready to rush the doors as soon as The Clash played White Riot. Or James Genocide posted:I don’t know what show was going on at The Olympic Auditorium that night in 1984 but I can tell you about The Battle Royal that went on in the parking lot and back alleys around the Olympic Auditorium that night between The Lads and The Suicidals. Yeah that’s the Suicidal Tendencies gang. E- have a few photos Snowy fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jul 21, 2020 |
# ¿ Jul 21, 2020 19:01 |
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I can say this much for negative approach, I saw them a couple years back in a small packed club and they rocked the gently caress out hard, it was great.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2020 03:57 |
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Serious Party Gods posted:So much good stuff! I promise I won't share any more personal details or "joke around"... Sorry to hear it. This is a little punk adjacent but maybe somewhat interesting. In the late 80-early 90s Missing Foundation was kind of a punk industrial band on the Lower East Side in NYC that was also a big part of the anti gentrification movement there. Their graffiti was threatening and it was everywhere. They were such a mysterious boogeyman that there were scare pieces on the news about them and the fbi started investigating them as if they were terrorists. They were known for helping instigate the Tompkins square Park riot in 1988. So in 93 I was making the rounds of the record stores and was playing some Street Fighter on an outside arcade machine. Gavin from Absolution came up and played a game, and said Missing Foundation were about to play in the park, so I walked over there with him to check it out. The park at the time was basically an autonomous zone full of awesome sketchy people, and the center of the East village. Missing foundation came on in front of a crowd of punks and weirdos, and the place went wild. As the show went on and it got dark, people grabbed all the garbage cans and threw them in the pit and set them in fire. Then they drummed on the burning cans along with the band. M80s went off, and cymbals got thrown like frisbees into the crowd. At one point a member of the band wiped his bleeding hands on the wall of the bandshell, drawing their famous upside down martini glass logo that meant “the party’s over” for gentrifying yuppies who were going to get their homes invaded. I was watching my back more than the band, and didn’t even realize when they made a quick escape before the cops came for them. They were pretty shrewd that way. This show left a huge impact on me. I’ve since become friendly with Peter Missing, the main guy in the group, it been great to hear all the stories about this near mythical phenomenon. Just found this video from early in the show, that’s why I’m bringing it up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvyYN2bMk_0 And I recommend this three part series about them that was on local news at the time. I watched all of these like WTF who is that?? Turns out it was a massive smear campaign. Peter was an is very into animal rights and was extremely upset that they said that MF was sacrificing animals because that rumor really got around. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcQrjp8Myjg The party’s over/three strikes and you’re out Snowy fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Jul 22, 2020 |
# ¿ Jul 22, 2020 07:32 |
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caleb posted:That's way easier to spray paint than the crown and the down. I have never seen or heard of it before but it rules. I wish the symbol had caught on more, it’s still relevant and really conveys its message well imo. It works as anti gentrification, cops, banks, and pro squat. It’s easy too, and you don’t need the three strikes part if you’re in a rush, the glass is enough. Here’s an old NY Times article about it https://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/29/nyregion/a-stirring-icon-that-shook-things-up-turns-20.html?referringSource=articleShare If that article makes it seem like Pete was selling out or something, he’s been living as a nomad in squats in the us and Europe for decades, the guy owns almost nothing. I should probably post something in cspam about him, he was like 40 years ahead of them.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2020 17:38 |
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Johnny Rotten was in maybe the first rap/rock fusion band, which was probably a huge mistake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VgLkk_drx4
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2020 21:58 |
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caleb posted:This stuff is all fascinating and way cool and I have been sharing it with my friends who are all also upstate punks who were in pampers when this all went down. Idk what my point is thanks I guess Thanks I’m really glad you’re interested! I was 17 when those new reports came out, was fascinated then and I still have the vhs cassette that I taped them on. I wouldn’t even say I’m a huge fan of the music, more of the movement around them. They had this real life element of danger that was amazing to see and were a huge part of the hardcore 1980s downtown landscape and zeitgeist I guess. So much so that they almost ended up touring with Public Enemy but the news reports and police investigations sidetracked everything. I used to think they were a little over the top with their message but time has proven them completely right, downtown and nyc in general has been completely saturated with money and the banks and gentrifiers have won.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2020 22:56 |
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I’d love to have him revisit this list and see how he thinks it’s stood the test of time. His NY choices are really weird to me. Blood Sweat and No Tears at #16 is insane-the 7” was better but even that should barely make the list, and Prong, Straight Ahead and Leeway are on there but no Urban Waste or Reagan Youth. That’s all the stuff I grew up loving but in retrospect there was much better music out there.
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2020 17:09 |
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Thrasher Skate Rock vol 3 was my skate tape, it introduced me to Septic Death and the Accüsed I don’t think I can embed a playlist link https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF7zbUN8buhraPhjf5ewzdbtNM0Ut-P1r
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2020 17:22 |
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albany academy posted:SOIA being that high on the list might just be from when the list was compiled - i know pushead loves jocky hardcore (see: glue-step) but that album was huge when it came out, less so as the years rolled on. hindsight would probaly drop that in favour juicier nyhc, and i'd rather see sheer terror's just can't hate enough over anything soia released. Yeah I’m sure that’s why it’s up there, and I’d love to see what changes he would make now, if any. I took a quick look to see if he keeps up any social media presence or anything, thinking he may have already talked about the list but didn’t see anything. Just can’t hate enough is better than any sick of it all, yeah. Sheer Terror was older and kind of separate from the overall scene but soia, raw deal, breakdown, all of that seemed cool at first- once it quickly turned into wannabe gangster toughguy stuff it just went downhill fast. Somehow they still inspired a million lovely douche bands.
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2020 01:04 |
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caleb posted:Also lol that I immediately knew which song you were posting after "been listening to suicide..." Tom Scharpling fans would hope for Frankie Teardop
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2020 01:06 |
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Justin broadrick did an all punk dj set, fist pumping and screaming along to all the songs. It was a lot of stuff like Crass and Amebix, and this one I had never heard before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOV_wAHBYyg E- I love those horns and will have to sample them sometime Snowy fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jul 24, 2020 |
# ¿ Jul 24, 2020 02:58 |
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Serious Party Gods posted:No doubt, but for the folks (including myself) that aren't in the "90-99th percentile" of knowing what's up, it's a treasure trove of weird, good poo poo. Sorry if I gave the wrong impression, it’s a great list and I am not that full of myself to be making GBS threads on pushead’s taste, it’s just the nyc stuff I have personal experience with and stands out as odd to me in places. Edit: also with the help of hindsight I’m just shooting the poo poo here because why not Snowy fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Jul 24, 2020 |
# ¿ Jul 24, 2020 06:57 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLgNPzfBqy4
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2020 18:01 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuocFVXo0iQ
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2020 18:10 |
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Here’s some more stuff about early punk gangs in LA, the first one is an article from 82 https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-07-28-me-5552-story.html And a blog post about one of the gangs, FFF http://dirtcitychronicles.blogspot.com/2012/02/kalifornien-uber-chaos.html?m=1
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2020 01:28 |
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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:Is this a good place to talk about how Pat Fear (Bill Barrell) from White Flag was a police fetishist who had a major crush on my dad and would write him love letters to my dad's secret gay PO Box? A THOUSAND TIMES YES bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:Tbh there isn't a lot more to tell about it other than he became a cop for a while but quit after a few months of having to interact with other cops Aw, well poo poo. Still a good story, thanks and nice work, dad. E- does he still have the letters?
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2020 19:34 |
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My friend grew up in Bethlehem PA and got heavily into hardcore in the early 80s. He’s told me about this town where punk was mainstream, which was so different from my experience in the NYC area. quote:They were from Catasauqua, which kids on the scene used to call Little England. Catasauqua (or Catty) was one of the punkest small towns in America. there were some truly amazingly stacked shows from 84 to 86 there. it was like the Huntington Beach of Pennsylvania; as if Catty High was the PA version of Edison High in HB. And most of those kids were a bit crazed and tough. it was totally Class Of ‘84. http://freedomhasnobounds.com/2020/07/17/youthquake/ I’ll have to see if he has written about the love of the Pork Dukes in the Lehigh Valley, that’s a weird story.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2020 21:37 |
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Here’s a cool article about 212-OPEC-SID, a phone line that had nyc show listings on an answering machine tape. It was a pretty big deal back when. https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/opec-sid-nyc-punk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvIkZSx_Vmk quote:Now 63, Glenn asked me to refer to him by first name out of professional concerns. In the early 1980s, he was a member of a punk rock group, and one of his bandmates suggested he attend an APRC meeting. He recalls that during the second or third session he took part in, APRC regulars began spitting out ideas on how to boost the local music scene. “We should start a record label!” one person may have said, to the delight of everyone in attendance. But another would then ask, “Okay, who has some money?” and the room tumbled into silence. The same result came when someone else said, quite ambitiously, “We should get the city to give us a building to hold shows in!” Finally, one attendee said, “We should have a free concert hotline!”
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2020 19:21 |
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Some day I’d love to see some good shows in japan Like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AJ5x34uorM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peonvzpSxgE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIUeOahsjQ8 E- if you like posts in Japanese about hardcore and food, my friend there books shows and shares a lot of photos https://instagram.com/axl_tsuchida?igshid=u155iqhipja0 Snowy fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Jul 31, 2020 |
# ¿ Jul 31, 2020 04:15 |
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I love old Blondie videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zT_aGeMaeU
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2020 20:38 |
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Blondie seemed like she was into the cutting edge cool poo poo and if you wanted that in mid 70s nyc you would definitely be downtown and most likely at cbgbs. From some older people I’ve met it sounded like she was like a local party girl in the scene out on coke binges all the time so I’m sure she felt at home with that crowd. I’ve had a crush on her since I was a kid so one of these days I need to read her book. This video has me all in love again- someone released a ton of full length concert videos a few years back with two shows from this night in NJ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RlXAprKWHY For more punk-adjacent stuff I just watched Threads, a 1984 BBC film depicting what nuclear war in England would look like. I was really surprised I hadn’t heard of it before because my dad was a peace educator and worked in anti nuke campaigns when I was a kid, so I grew up with an insane library of the horrors of war at home. Photo books of Hiroshima victims, IRA car bombings, on and on. So my dad went to a conference in London in 85 or so and met one of the guys from Conflict/Mortarhate. He gave my dad a stack of LPs and 7”s which then came straight back to me. That was my into to that whole style and scene. So anyway the samples in this song came from Threads, I had no idea til I saw it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp2deejJP0M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgT4Y30DkaA The whole movie is basically a Discharge album in film form and I think I recognized a few shots that became album covers. It’s on amazon video now for free if you have prime. Watch the movie then binge on some 80s nuke vibes and punk
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2020 04:06 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMY9vRxSqcY
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 15:08 |
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My friend just started taking bass lessons with Joe Lally via Skype I guess it’s a good time to hit up musicians for stuff like that, they could use the money
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2020 06:50 |