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Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003



Hoooooly poo poo I haven't heard of these guys in decades

I went to a show when I was 16 that was Pistol Grip, Swingin' Utters, No Use For A Name and these guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4zR567ET_M

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Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Fun trivia: Frank Turner, most famous for indie-type folk-rock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ-D4jmkUiQ

initially got his start in a short-lived but awesome band called Million Dead that jumped between post-hardcore and well, regular hardcore:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YuEquLDoN4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AaKDdQcEmw

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Also, haven't seen them mentioned yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVEepmETMbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRQEz7J82ZA

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Post your first punk shows

Mine was Bigwig, Ensign and the Suicide Machines

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Literally A Person posted:

AF Records showcase. Anti-Flag, Against All Authority, Pipedown, other band. If we're not counting local shows of course which I think I went to about a billion of before this.

I'm like 99% sure I saw this show at a local VFW. The Code and The Virus were there too IIRC.

e: hot take - Anti-Flag still kick rear end, this is from January: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QESfmrpcHGw

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I was the idealistic kid who bought into the whole "punk involves solidarity and unity" bit but a lot of times the expectations did not match the reality at all tbh

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


It's not much a movie but the 1994 Charlie Sheen movie "The Chase" had a hell of a soundtrack. Multiple NOFX and Rancid songs, Bad Religion, Rollins Band (Henry cameos as a cop in the movie), Offspring, Down By Law.

The closing credits was the first time I ever heard Please Play This Song On The Radio by NOFX

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I thought I liked emo back in the day but I guess a lot of it was actually pop-punk? Stuff like the Get-Up Kids or Senses Fail.

Does Glassjaw count as Screamo? Thursday? It's all pretty nebulous in my head. Not to mention that I listen to a lot of metalcore which tends to invoke the term "screamo" a lot on my head - a lot of those bands do the switching between high-pitched clean vocals and screaming/growling a la Thursday.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Fall Back Down is about the breakup experience as a whole, but Tropical London off the same album is specifically about Brody leaving him while they were in her home city:

quote:

If you lose me, you lose a good thing
That's one thing I know for sure
If you lose me, girl, you lose a good thing
That's one thing I know for sure

When you were sick, girl, I held your hand
When you were in trouble I tried to understand
To stay with you I'd do anything I can
'Cause losing you was not part of the plan
Melbourne is a tropical London
American in a tropical London
Abandoned in a tropical London
Oh no, oh no

If you lose me, you lose a good thing
That's one thing I know for sure
If you lose me, girl, you lose a good thing
That's one thing I know for sure

A souvenir reminds me of you
Every day I catch a glimpse of us two
I'm the one comin' to the rescue
That's why I'm confused, you withdrew
I say, Melbourne is a tropical London
American in a tropical London
Abandoned in a tropical London
Oh no, oh no

If you lose me, you lose a good thing
That's one thing I know for sure
If you lose me, girl, you lose a good thing
That's one thing I know for sure
Go!

Medication led to an altercation
And it's, uh, hazardous in the valley of deception
And I walk alone
But it was not my intention
Oh, not my invention
But now my heart's been ripped wide open

If you lose me, you lose a good thing
That's one thing I know for sure
If you lose me, girl, you lose a good thing
That's one thing I know for sure

Also a reminder that Tim Armstrong is a reedy ex-heroin addict and Josh Homme is a towering monster of a man so I would imagine Tim probably felt even more negged than the usual dumping.

IMO that album (Indestructible) was the last really good Rancid album.

The second self-titled Rancid album was their best one, and Matt Freeman is still the nastiest bassist in punk rock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOIYDlzwvy4

Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 17:41 on May 21, 2020

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Also here's a scorching hot take: Agnostic Front sucks. I'm sure Roger Miret is a wonderful person but them and that entire NYCHC genre all sounds exactly the same and was absolutely infested with macho Long Island-accent bros back in the late 90's/early 2000's when I was still going to shows.

SilvergunSuperman posted:

I'd have bet good money this was going to be maxwell murder.

I legit remember that my initial reaction when I first heard Axiom after buying the CD at Tower Records and driving around listening was "how the gently caress did he outdo Maxwell Murder"

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Phlegmish posted:

Nah. Early NYCH is pretty good, although I prefer Warzone over Agnostic Front. My favorite NYCH band is probably Youth of Today. Gorilla Biscuits is good, too, though that's more the generic type of hardcore.

By the late eighties they started turning up the cringe machismo to eleven, and the music slowed down to this boring sludge that's basically metal, that's where I checked out.

I can't comment on anything before the mid-90's really but by 98-2000 you were getting very similar crowds at Madball shows and Godsmack shows

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Hey remember that time Tim guest-starred on an episode of The X-Files :laffo:

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


lol remember when they did a Germs biopic and the guy who played Darby ended up going on tour with the actual Germs for a while

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


man AF Records had some great bands on there for a while

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIBFHnGz9E8

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I don't think I ever got over a punk band as fast as I did with NOFX so tbh I'd honestly prefer this

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Millencolin!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OChjVLHlkVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPe9sTB1GRs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSpIp5VvEZ4

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Dixville posted:

That whole Life on a Plate album is great

Generally with punk I'm not a big fan of when bands clean up their sound, but the later Millencolin stuff slaps too IMO

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Also I'm gonna end up dodging some bricks and beer glasses for this one but gently caress it, middle-period AFI was/is awesome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCeij8Logoo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsFleLGbcEo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjy8-5f7DQ4

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Literally A Person posted:

Remember when AFI tried to go major label and released some loving whiny teen poo poo when they were like 35 and no one loving bought it and they totally looked like the total lame-o's they are. It was magnificent.

There was one that was very whiny but also had kind of a weird psychobilly vibe to it (Crash Love) that I thought had some decent songs, but everything after that, yeah, agreed.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Literally A Person posted:

To be fair, punk rock appealed to me a lot when I was a teen but now that I'm older I find that's where punk rock belongs. In my teens.

:hai:

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Literally A Person posted:

I...uh...I listen to punk music everyday....

:negative:

Same, friend, same :unsmith:

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


dorkthrone posted:

Propagandhi - Supporting Caste

:hmmyes:

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Literally A Person posted:

I'm not a fan of hardcore but this song seems apt given the current state of the US:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtjAVO6NWmE

holy poo poo I haven't heard this song in loving forever

off this thing, right?

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I'm 99% sure it came free with Underground Nation haha. Yeah it's one of the best comps ever. I wonder if I still have it?

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Folk punk? ok!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c47nOdypHk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCbjc2LvxHA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIr0I3ln7jA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_5JQLUyuJ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P92SB9lGg_E

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Phlegmish posted:

When people say the Sex Pistols were a boy band, they mean that they were literally managed like a boy band by Malcolm McLaren, not that they weren't hardcore or underground enough.

They were really important culturally but I'm still surprised anyone cares enough about them to get defensive

It's this, their entire fashion style and attitude was planned out by McLaren and Vivienne Westwood (McLaren to make money off the band, Westwood to make money off the fashion).

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


As you should, he's up there with Jonny Rotten in terms of "rock stars with brain worms"

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


albany academy posted:

the thread in nmd talks about jeff rosenstock for multiple pages uninterrupted save occasional mentions of a Streetlight Manifesto show or something. i can't read that thing.


but enough about the nmd ska thread

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Phlegmish posted:

Yeah. Holy poo poo, they talk about Streetlight Manifesto and nothing else, despite the fact that they haven't even actually reunited if I read the 5,000 posts correctly. If you post something about two-tone or whatever it's just crickets chirping.

Again, the GBS ska thread is far superior for some reason, although we should merge it with this one, it's 90% ska-punk anyway

SM's still together they just haven't put new music out for years and years, and it's a running joke that they never actually will. They do kick rear end though!

I think there's plenty of two-tone etc. love in there, it's just an incredibly dead thread (much like ska itself amirite :v:)

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Phlegmish posted:

I think they think every ska band sounds like Reel Big Fish or Mighty Mighty Bosstones. But you can play those upstrokes and horns angrily, very angrily.

fixed, say what you will about Streetlight but nobody else really sounds like them, that's kind of why ska kids never shut up about them :haw:

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


To cap off the ska discourse, The Rx Bandits got better and better as they lost horns - though when they dropped them entirely they lost some of the spark. They're not a punk band but they really kick rear end.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Literally A Person posted:

Horns are such a tricky instrument. Too much and your sweet ska song sounds like the Lawrence Welk show too little and you're just a really confusing punk band.

ok so I really do love Streetlight and all but this intro makes me cackle like a madman, it's so painful (the rest of the cover is pretty loving awful too, tbh)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_6KTZgayxg

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Literally A Person posted:

This is some kind of crime. Aggravated assault on music. And not even in the good way.

lol I know it's so aggressively bad

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


hell yeah Gallows loving rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmnxagdk9DU

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Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Also, I dunno how much they count as punk, I'm pretty sure they were on Epitaph for a while? but The Hives loving own, and are easily one of the top 3 live bands I've ever seen. Just unbelievable charisma and crowd interaction from the whole band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d_xk7sSIbU

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