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Action Jacktion
Jun 3, 2003

TheAardvark posted:

S2E16 - In the Shadow of Z'Ha'Dum

Wow. The Night Watch. This some straight fascist poo poo. Their symbol is even a loving black armband.

JMS said he knew it was obvious but he couldn't think of a better way you could easily differentiate them. Maybe they could've worn hats?

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Action Jacktion
Jun 3, 2003
I don't know if anyone cares but maybe some of those titles or descriptions should be in spoilers.

Action Jacktion
Jun 3, 2003

The_Doctor posted:

S2Ep22 - The Fall of Night

“A spider, big as death and twice as ugly. When you fly past, it’s like you hear a scream in your mind.”
I always liked that the characters are actually able to hear the Shadow ship sound effect (somehow).

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Welles is particularly slimy, coming across as a pound shop Kyle Maclachlan. And Zack finally realises what Night Watch actually is, with carting off shopkeepers for thought crimes. “Ohhh they’re fascists.” Good job Kenickie. They’ve got no problem attempting to openly recruit Ivanova (would they have given her the Captain post if he refused to apologise?), and make no bones about being quite fash and gestapo-esque. But Lantz (higher up in the MoP) doesn’t seem to know what they do? Or just had never concerned himself with them? Seeing EarthGov go full facist is quite depressing right now, as you know <gestures at everything happening>. :smith:

Lantz comes across as a "useful idiot" who just does what he's supposed to. And he thinks he really will bring peace through the the non-agression pact because why would the Centauri lie? He's kind of sad. Welles on the other hand knows he's doing bad things and doesn't care. (By the way, he's played by the same actor who played the Minbari Neroon in a couple of previous episodes.)

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But the important thing here is I CAN’T BELIEVE I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE VORLONS. loving ANGELS. ಠ_ಠ

I figured out the Vorlons from the line about everyone recognizing them, since lots of cultures have legends of angelic creatures. (I missed the sound of wings when Kosh reveals himself before.)

Action Jacktion
Jun 3, 2003

The_Doctor posted:

S3ep2 - Convictions

JMS wrote G'Kar's dialogue imagining him speaking in a meditative voice. It was Katsulas's idea to be laughing uncontrollably.

As you might have guessed, JMS wrote the sequence as a deliberate subversion of the cliché TV plot of two characters working out their differences with each other while trying to get out of a stuck elevator. Here, G'Kar refuses to do anything because he'd rather see Londo die.

Action Jacktion
Jun 3, 2003

The_Doctor posted:

S3ep08 - Messages from Earth

Also, what did Garibaldi see when he was on Mars? He said he saw some of it, but didn’t provide any details. Has he also known what a Shadow ship looked like this entire time (although probably didn’t connect the two - he had no reason to).

That was covered in the Babylon 5 comic book. Here's a summary if you don't want to go looking for it:

Years before B5, Sinclair is sent to investigate strange happenings on Mars. He knows that a previous mission met with a mysterious accident, so he keeps things off the books by hiring the less-than-reputable Garibaldi to fly him around. Their ship loses power and crashes so they have to hike across the Martian surface looking for help, and they come across the buried Shadow ship as the other one is digging it out. Psi Corps has set up a structure nearby where unconscious humans are somehow being processed by an alien machine. Garibaldi and Sinclair steal a vehicle and get away. Later they tell their story, but when they return to the site there's nothing left, except Garibaldi finds a Psi Corps badge. In a flashback, we see that one of the humans put through the machine was Talia.

The comic came more than six months before this episode aired and even came out before "Divided Loyalties" aired.

Action Jacktion fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Sep 16, 2020

Action Jacktion
Jun 3, 2003
You're coming to another point where episodes were shown out of order: Originally episode 318 "Walkabout" was supposed to air right after episode 315 "Interludes and Examinations". It doesn't make a big difference but that was the original order.

Action Jacktion
Jun 3, 2003

Powered Descent posted:

s01e15 - The Quality of Mercy
Cool, it's a Lost In Space mini-reunion! It's a pity June Lockhart and Bill Mumy had no scenes together, though.

Look closely at the courtroom scene with her and you'll see Mumy out of makeup in the background.

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Action Jacktion
Jun 3, 2003

Powered Descent posted:

s02e14 - There All the Honor Lies
  • Talia only appears briefly, in one scene (where Vir spills his drink on her). It's a little odd to have her come in just for a cameo; if a main character is in an episode at all they're usually going to play an important part in it. I wonder if she originally had scenes that got cut for time.

She did. In the original script when she bumps into Vir she sees a mental image of him screaming and falling into a dark vortex. They actually filmed that by putting Stephen Furst into a harness and dangling him in front of a green screen (he didn't have to try very hard to scream and act panicked), but it was cut, so Talia's appearance seems a bit pointless. Everything with Kosh was added by JMS, so elements of the original script had to be cut to fit it in. That's why Sheridan's lawyer has a big entrance but doesn't really do much. By the way, the lawyer was played by Julie Caitlin Brown, the actress who originally played Na'Toth.

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