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"Whatever You've Heard, It's Worse" You know... with lines like that, I was expecting half the Raw roster to gone this week, and NXT GAB to be have massive card changes
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Should I have expected anything other than a gently caress finish to the main event with Asuka standing tall to close the show?
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Jul 2, 2020 03:59
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jesus WEP posted:i loving HATE how wwe patterns every single elimination match this exact way I mean... they booked Shayna Baszler strong at Elimination Chamber this year and eliminated everyone. Then she lost to Becky at Wrestlemania, lost Money in the bank, couldn't beat Nia Jax or Asuka in a triple threat match, and was last seen with back to back wins over Natalya 1 1/2 months ago.
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Jul 2, 2020 15:07
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Codependent Poster posted:It was said already, but Sasha is confirmed a huge draw. I think this is a prime example that WWE knows what makes great matches people want to see, and they choose to just not give them to us because they don’t know how to book the finishes. While Io/Sasha was a potential dream match they’ve been sitting on for years, the ending just made me realize that they never just want someone to go over clean. And I feel like we are just going to get more of the same because it worked last week
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Jul 4, 2020 14:58
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Davros1 posted:Anyone know the shows that were in the slot before Smackdown did in terms of ratings? I did a post about this in a previous thread... let me see if I can find it Edit: Here it is Astro7x posted:
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Jul 5, 2020 00:48
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Seams posted:There’s a lot of terrible poo poo in attitude era Raws but the show moves at such a frenetic pace that the bad poo poo doesn’t usually last too long before you’re on to the next thing. They’re so much more watchable than modern Raws which are such a slog to get through This right here. lovely match between two people you don’t like? It’s 4 minutes tops and last part of a segment. These days? That match is getting three segments and interrupted by 2 commercials, and will have a gently caress finish as well. I am always amazed at how many wrestlers they manage to give screen time to in the 1 hour episodes of WWF Superstars. They’d sometimes get like 50 people on there. Even if it was like a short 30 second promo
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Jul 5, 2020 05:25
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Make me wonder what WWE will rename the COVID empty arena era
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Jul 5, 2020 15:54
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spongeh posted:I figured it was probably a reference to the WCW belt, but sure let's go with secret subconscious nazi instead. We all know the reality though. The title probably looked more like this (excuse my lazy as gently caress photoshop)  Then the conversation probably went like: Vince: "Damnit, how are people going to know that they are the CHAMPION, make CHAMPION even BIGGER!" Belt Guy: "But sir, if we do that, we'll cut off the top of the wings and then it will look...." Vince: "I don't care, the word CHAMPION should span across the entire title. Edit: I actually just realized that the title does have the proper number of stars and stripes at least. Astro7x fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Jul 7, 2020 |
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Jul 7, 2020 06:00
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Jerusalem posted:In the interests of positivity, goddamn are Sasha and Bayley an amazing team, and pairing them off against Asuka and Kairi is great: This is a prime example of why the women should be exempt from the brand split. Dividing the roster into fourths just doesn't work when you have your top talent separated on four different shows, and leave each champion to have like 2 legit challengers that are opposite of heel/face from the champion Like my dream scenario would be -Let the women go between brands (kind of doing that with the tag titles) -Merge the main Raw/Womens women's title into one title. -Make some sort of secondary title for your Lacey Evans, Lana, Mandy, Liv Morgan level talent to fight over.
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Jul 8, 2020 16:19
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Cerebral Bore posted:Tag u're self, I'm the promotional poster where less than half of the featured characters are actual active roster members. That's kind of what I want out of a WWE game these days. I don't really care if Austin Theory or Cameron Grimes are in the game, but I'm more excited to see Yokozuna and Andre The Giant in there.
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Jul 8, 2020 16:22
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Dexo posted:You realized they booked that match before anyone would have known that Mox was gonna miss Fyter night 2. Well they blew that match to go up against OC/Jericho because their stupid lack of testing put Mox at risk. So now what are they going to counter program with next week?
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Jul 9, 2020 20:49
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If the match doesn't end like this, I'll be disappointed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqvuGqr-u2Y&t=251s
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Jul 10, 2020 20:50
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fatherofmustard posted:Vanessa Borne is getting called up to the main roster according to Fightful. Good for her... she's had like 4 wins on TV over the past 4 years. If they're going to do jack poo poo with you, may as well make more money doing jack poo poo.
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Jul 12, 2020 06:54
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I completely forgot that they called up Belair
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Jul 12, 2020 07:00
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blunt posted:She appeals to ARE TROOPS chuds. What I've never understood is that they have like... ONE person that fits some niche. Like they have Rey Mysterio or Andrade and you hear "WWE is really trying to go after the latino market." Do they expect people to tune in for that 1 person and then watch all 9 hours of their programming that they are not on? Like its one thing if you're a TV network and you have that one sitcom with the Latino lead, and you hope that they don't change the channel and watch the show after it. But wrestling is like... so much loving content per week, and you don't know when the person will be on, if at all, and I just don't get it
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Jul 12, 2020 16:51
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Lid posted:reminder that they were trying to pop NXT numbers with Charlotte before they finally gave up and gave Sasha a shot and oh look it turns out Sasha and Bayley are more popular than Charlotte you would think that the popularity on Raw/SD would translate to bigger NXT numbers than barely beating out AEW. I know it's impressive to beat AEW, but is adding an extra 100,000 to 200,000 viewers that meaningful when you can draw 1.7M on Raw?
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Jul 12, 2020 22:48
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So let me get this straight.... Lana has said that both of her parents have COVID, Rusev has said that he has COVID. Lana and all the girls that she was vacationing with and posting videos on TikTok have been off TV since the testing began. But this awful loving company just won't let her say that she has COVID?
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Jul 13, 2020 04:37
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NorgLyle posted:I only started watching NXT basically two weeks before Ciampa's final Takeover before his neck sidelined him and consequently I don't think I really 'get' what makes him (and Gargano) particularly special. He seems okay and he puts on good matches with certain people but if you asked me whether I'd rather watch Ciampa or Cameron Grimes vs Keith Lee I'd have to seriously think about the answer. His character since returning from the injury is pretty much textbook 'worst WWE booking' stuff where he's a creepy weirdo dickhole that we were supposed to cheer for because of reasons. I wouldn't say that Ciampa puts on particularly great matches. But the Ciampa/Gargano feud was the culmination of them coming in together in Aug 2015 as a team, the heel turn in Chicago in May 2017, and not getting the match between those two until April 2018. It was one time where the whole feud wasn't crammed down your throat in a 4 week period in between PPVs. I think they faced each other about 2 too many times. They had 3 Takeover matches and that One Final Beat cinematic match, and the last two didn't feel special to me at all.
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Jul 13, 2020 05:29
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1glitch0 posted:Oh please. She can do whatever she wants. If she doesn't want to take unnecessary things out of her body that has poisoned her twice, and an implant that has had a history of leaking or bursting in women wrestlers and causing them harm, that is her choice. I don't think it's a wise one. I don't think wrestlers should take steroids either! Get off your high horse. Seriously... it's bad enough that these women are getting called ugly on Twitter any time they make a post. They know the risks, let them do what they want to do.
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Jul 13, 2020 23:01
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I just listened to a 3 hour long Zoom call about how my kid's school may or may not be reopening in the fall, and I assume that it was more entertaining than whatever the hell Raw was
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Jul 14, 2020 05:25
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Been Standing in line at the Secretary of State for 3 hours now to renew my license. Back is killing me... why do they make those trainees stand for 10 hour days?
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Jul 14, 2020 17:54
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Hirez posted:When is the next quarterly report due? I legit wanna see how many active subscribers they have now / how many they bled by cancelling the free trial month. They always separated paid and trial customers. The will pump up the numbers by saying anyone that logged in one time during the free tier period this past 3 months is a free customer that can be converted to a paid customer. Chris James 2 posted:Basically any defense of this is now gone The huge problem is not only that the show is getting worse, but it's really hard to get back into it as a lapsed fan. I feel this way with NXT. I stopped watching it when AEW started, and I tune back in to NXT and it's 80% new people that I don't care about. I tune into Raw, and it's feeling like the same thing. It has familiar names that I just don't care to see, names I love that are not being used properly, and then this very small segment that is being done right. But will I sit through a 3 hour Raw because I don't know when the Sasha Banks match will be on? Oh god know.... They have the roster to make a solid 2 hour show, but there is no A and B show. Everything feels like the C- show and is not worth my time. Wrestling is good when it's live, and they are getting me to stop watching live.
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Jul 15, 2020 19:32
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Aphrodite posted:A few of the women's roster did media interviews that all asked about their Evolution 2 wishes this week, so I'd expect an announcement for that soon since nothing in WWE is ever organic. The Bump was pretty much a look back at the women's revolution today with Stephanie, The Bellas, and Charlotte
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Jul 15, 2020 22:11
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Was the main event worth watching? I just couldn’t bother with no build and the likelyhood of a gently caress finish.
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Jul 16, 2020 03:19
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Everyone outside of the US is just streaming/torrenting it anyway So if nobody is watching on TV, and they can't do live shows outside of the US... where is their loving revenue stream coming from with these countries? Certainly not video games of network subscriptions. Not merchandise if the are not doing live events.
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Jul 17, 2020 15:37
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skaboomizzy posted:Eventually the hot indie peeps are gonna get wise to this and laugh when NXT Paul offers them a four-year contract. People wouldn't take the deal if it was for less money. A lot of people seem to be happy with cashing a paycheck and flying out to sit in catering.
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Jul 17, 2020 20:49
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bartok posted:#NaomiDeservesBetter is currently trending. They must have jobbed her out something special tonight. She returned at the Rumble, has only won a single match against Carmella in February. Racking up losses against Lacey Evans, Bayley, Sasha, Tamina, and Dana Brooke Why even bring her back? A return is when you're at your hottest
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Jul 18, 2020 04:18
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Procrastinator posted:wasnt their last one before covid like 3 or 4 years ago I don't know why I did this. Here are all the people released since 2008 by year. I just kept going and was getting fascinated by how many people have been released multiple times or have recently come back that were released like 10 years ago. 2019: TJP Hideo Itami Rhyno Jordan Miles The Ascension Sin Cara Tye Dillinger Luke Harper Goldust Dean Ambrose 2018: Enzo Amore Rich Swann Abby Laith Big Cass Neville 2017: Mada Rosa Mendes Jack Swagger Simon Gotch Austin Aries HoHo Lun Eva Marie Emma Darren Young Summer Rae Bronson Matthews James Ellsworth 2016: Bull Dempsey Marcus Louis Sylvester Lefort Hornswaggle Alex Riley Zeb Colter El Torito Cameron Santino Marella Wade Barrett Damien Sandow Brooklyn Brawler Cody Rhodes Adam Rose Eden Stiles ZZ Ryback Alberto Del Rio Sarar Lee 2015: Justin Gabriel Rey Mysterio AJ Lee CJ Parker Hulk Hogan Layla Billy Gunn Solomon Crowe Brad Maddox 2014: Kaitlyn Sin Cara (Original) Ezekiel Jackson Mason Ryan Teddy Long Evan Bourne JTG Brodus Clay Curt Hawkins Aksana Yoshi Tatsu Camacho Jinder Mahal Drew McIntyre CM Punk Vickie Guerrero Ricardo Rodriguez Alberto Del Rio Justin Roberts Great Khali 2013: Trent Barreta Eve Derrick Bateman Percy Watson Matt Striker Ted Dibiase Jr Jim Ross Tony Dawson 2012: Goldust Nikki Bella Brie Bella Edge Maxine Kharma Abraham Washington Chris Jericho Tyler Reks Kelly Kelly Beth Phoenix 2011: Finlay Michelle McCool Michael Tarver Jacob Novak Chavo Guerrero Melina Vladimir Koslov Chris Masters David Hart Smith Lucky Cannon Todd Grisham Gail Kim Maryse John Morrison Jack Korpela Eden Stiles 2010: Tommy Dreamer Eric Escobar The Hurricane Paul Burchill Maria Charlie Hass Mickie James Katie Lea Burchill Shelton Benjamin Funaki Brian Christopher Jimmy Wang Yang Mike Knox Tony Atlas Carlito Batista Daniel Bryan Savannah Serena Chris Jericho Matt Hardy Caylen Croft Jillian Luke Gallows Shad Gaspard Tiffany Vance Archer MVP Kaval Ashley Valance 2009 Mike Adamle Bam Neely D-Lo Brown Val Venis Ron Simmons Victoria hardcore Holly Gavin Spears Scotty Goldman Manu Boogeyman Ryan Braddock Kizarny Tazz JBL Kevin Thorn Ken Kennedy Umaga Candice Michelle Sim Snuka Brian Kendrick Ricky Ortiz Eugene Jeff Hardy Lilian Garcia Lauren Mayhew 2008 Anastacia Rose Bobby Lashley Roadkill Al Snow Dave Taylor Balls Mahoney Torrie Wilson Mikey Trevor Murdoch Ashley Massaro Ric Flair Jonathan Coachman Branden Walker James Curtis Domino Shannon Moore Nunzio Big Daddy V Stevie Richards Robbie McAllister Rory McAllister Cherry Colin Delaney Mick Foley Lance Cade Super Crazy Paul London Chuck Pualumbo Elijah Burke Kenny Dykstra Lena Yada Armando Estrada Snitsky
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I thought the wrestling was solid and I was entertained. The 2 1/2 hour run time helps... if they put in the Big Show/RKO match and the MVP/Crews match it would have been like 3hr 15min and felt way too long
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Jul 20, 2020 02:56
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I liked when they announced the Eye for an Eye match the trainees were banging on the hockey boards and shouting because they were excited for the match. Then as soon as Rollins won and took Rey's eye out, the crowd went silent and then started booing him. It's like... what did you expect to happen you idiots!
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Jul 20, 2020 04:08
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Red posted:AEW Producer #1: We need to film Jon Moxley doing a promo about his match with Brian Cage. What should we do? They've been doing this poo poo since Halftime Heat, it's like they have the opportunity to pretape something and they have to break the 180 degree rule just because they can. It's so jarring to me... like that shot of the crane when Mankind lowered it down on The Rock. It just is so unnecessary and makes no sense
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Jul 20, 2020 17:56
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Dell_Zincht posted:Just watched the Eye for an Eye match and the Swamp Match. Wrestling wise.... Seth/Rey was good. It was interesting to have a match where they were just trying to hurt each other and not get a pin. Like when they have HIAC matches and they try to win with roll ups and poo poo.
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Jul 20, 2020 18:49
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blunt posted:The first season wasn't terrible (it wasn't great either), but it's clear everybody lost interest after that and by the final never-ending season they'd all but abandoned the gameshow. I remember tuning in one week and Titus said something like "I have 42 redemption points, whatever those are" and then just tuned right out I'm surprised at the thought that Bryan had going into his gear and his hair, that WWE just gave no shits about
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Jul 20, 2020 23:58
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Abroham Lincoln posted:From what I've heard there were two sets of tapings done It's interesting that, in theory, WWE could tape like 20 matches with someone before their contract expires and then just air them after they leave
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Jul 21, 2020 17:24
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Dell_Zincht posted:lmao that WWE refused to sanction a regular match on RAW between Orton and Big Show but happily sanctioned a match where the objective was to rip your opponents eyeball out of their loving head. When AEW does a lights out match, they literally say that the show is over and that anything that happens from here on out will not be sanctioned by AEW. But when yo have an unsanctioned "match", doesn't that just mean that the things that happen that are unsanctioned are bell-to-bell? Like the whole purpose is that WWE says "hey, you guys want to kick each other's rear end, that's fine, but we won't be held responsible for what happens" so they make the match. So does that mean that Orton punting Big Show in the head could hold WWE responsible because it happened after the match? Certainly there has to be a limit to when the unsanctioned activity begins/ends, and that is within the match itself
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Jul 21, 2020 20:30
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Chris James 2 posted:Didn't want Kross winning two belts. Had to settle for killing Dijak instead https://streamable.com/x5a5ib I guess I have to watch NXT to care about Dijakovic for that to mean anything...
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Jul 23, 2020 03:34
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Neodoomium posted:I honestly think that NXT has been increasingly damaged by the fact that people straight up aren't watching WWE as much anymore in general, and those that still do are hip to the fact that the vast majority of the NXT roster has no future of note on Raw or Smackdown. It’s this, combined with them adding a ton of new people when they went to 2 hours and I don’t care for the vast majority of them. And they’ll never really get a chance to shine now on a Takeover because there are like 5 a year and it’s the same 10 people on them every time. Like do people like Timothy Thatcher, Oney Lorcan, Aliyah, Dexter Lumis, Bronson Reed, Cameron Grimes, ever-rise, Killian Dain, Chelsea Green, Kayden Carter, etc. really have a chance on making it on the main roster? If not, why are they on NXT each week taking up half the show? I also feel like a lot of these people are only on TV because of the pandemic and them living in Florida, so next year it will be back to catering when creative has nothing for them because the big names are back
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Pylons posted:Does anyone else feel like Vince isn't really giving enough of a poo poo during this to micromanage the show, since the word is he's convinced the failing ratings will jump back up when crowds are back? He is so disillusioned. Quarterly results are coming up. Wonder what the excuse will be. Remember when he said on one of those calls that ratings were tanking and the reason was because of “key stars” or something like that who were injured. And when you looked at the injury led list the only person on it that was notable was Roman Reigns? I bet he is going to put the blame on Becky this time.
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Jul 25, 2020 04:58
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Codependent Poster posted:I feel like "sacrificing the title to save your friend" is fine for booking. It MAYBE makes sense if the payoff is some Winner Take All match between Asuka/Kairi and Sasha/Bayley.... but Kairi is gone. They also had the option to write Kairi out with some devastating injury and Asuka doesn't make it in time to save her. MassRafTer posted:It rules so much that Asuka was given the title as a gift, went to a Double Count Out of Ring with Nia Jax and lost her title via Count Out of Ring. That's storytelling. Well when you put it like that...
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Chris James 2 posted:Dynamite's debut averaged 1.409mil averaged. I am certain now that there was a moment where more people were watching AEW Dynamite on 10/2/19 than Raw last night. We're not even within a year yet where Raw getting AEW's debut rating will be considered normal
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