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Jazzzzz
May 16, 2002

Strife posted:

HD catches a lot of poo poo for being slow, unreliable, having legacy technology, a high MSRP... the top end of their reasonable bikes is about $28k.

Strife posted:

reasonable

I was going to give you poo poo about considering 28k reasonable, but that's not an argument only that lands against HD. Indians can cost even more (a Roadmaster is $29K MSRP), Goldwings are in that ballpark.

As far as I can tell, reliability really isn't an issue with HD and hasn't been for decades, as you said. I think Harleys probably see more miles than the majority of other bikes on the road, too - Harley riders might have a rep for trailering their bikes everywhere, but I get the impression that's mostly BS. One of the local dealers by me has 7 or 8 used 2019s on the floor with more than 20k miles on them already, and hands down the highest mileage bikes I most frequently see are HD touring models.

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Jazzzzz
May 16, 2002

Strife posted:

I’d argue they also look stupid on baggers. A necessary evil, I guess.

The pegs themselves don't necessarily look dumb, but middle-aged dudes rolling down the highway looking like they're giving birth usually does, bagger or not.

Jazzzzz
May 16, 2002

Delta-Wye posted:

i've been getting a kick out of trucking along in town but this thing struggles to hit 80 on the highway, that's ural speeds. a shameful motorcycle.

I find it difficult to believe a Ural with sidecar will actually sustain 80mph, even downhill, without something falling off or exploding. They'll do 65, but 80 is pushing it

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