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Srice
Sep 11, 2011

TyrantWD posted:

I don't get how the bosses over at Fox allowed the interview to air. If I were Trump, I'd cut them off after that.

At this point they're definitely thinking more long-term than just Trump's presidency.

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Srice
Sep 11, 2011

sexpig by night posted:

https://twitter.com/BernieWatchdog/status/1288614348148092929

I love that this was before he decided to finally grow a spine and ask for things he never tried for as president

I see that the formula of "Here is a famous person, and they are doing a podcast now!" is at the usual level of quality those things typically are at.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

sean10mm posted:

So why is everyone suddenly despair posting about an eternal Trump presidency again? Trump is still eating poo poo in all the latest polls. Or are we back to imagining Trump will stage a military coup when he has like a 33% approval rating among military officers?

The only realistic way for Trump to win right now is with a lot of voter suppression and his administration sure is trying its hardest to do that.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Jesus III posted:

Isn't unemployment figured off only those who can and will work?

Yes, it counts those who have sought employment within a certain timeframe (I want to say within the past 6 weeks? but I'm firing from the hip here).

So a metric that would not count, say, someone who was laid off but doesn't currently want to get a new job if that might involve being exposed to the public in a pandemic.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Glumwheels posted:

But online leftists say she’s a cop :magemage:

I wonder how much Trump’s stupidity and bad messaging will now push people towards Kamala.

Anyone who doesn't think she's a cop, is a narc.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011


Holy poo poo I can't believe I didn't catch that. Incredible.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

mango sentinel posted:

Meg Whitman sucks so bad, even if you're a fan of the sociopath CEO set she's awful at that stuff. DNC just trotting out failures

Honestly the DNC bringing out a Quibi CEO to speak might actually be the most on-brand thing they can possibly do.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Quibi, much like the DNC, doesn't even have the slightest idea of what people under the age of 50 would want.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

I know this is a side tangent, but it blows my mind that the basic concept Quibi tried to work failed so miserably.

Everyone is tethered to their phone, traditional TV and cable is archaic compared to easy access to streaming, and smaller bites on a mobile platform seems a hell of a lot more convenient than sitting through or repeatedly pausing a traditional episode format.

Is the basic concept still fundamentally flawed and I can't see it or did Quibi just really poo poo the bed when they tried their hand at it?

Their entire business model was predicated on getting famous people to star in their series and they actively ignored the younger people on staff because they assumed that they knew what millennials wanted more than the millennials themselves.

quote:

Katzenberg and Whitman also point out that they stocked the Quibi offices with young employees who are in the demographic they’re trying to reach. But “there was an incredible lack of knowledge of the audience and dismissiveness of the audience,” another ex-Quibite says. “A thing Jeffrey always says is ‘I’m not a child or mother, but I made movies children and mothers loved. I know millennials better than millennials.’ ” Katzenberg had at times been well served by his intuition, and he remained convinced of its acuity. “I say, ‘Where’s your data?,’ ” Whitman says of their contrasting styles. “He says, ‘There is none. You just have to go with your gut.’ ”

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Glass of Milk posted:

Which candidate for President will be more receptive to a mass protest in favor of Single Payer the day after inauguration?

Trick question: neither, but with one you're not gonna get tear-gassed and thrown into an unmarked van.

The difference is that one of them thinks the unmarked vans should be driven by local police instead of federal agents.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

shoeberto posted:

The problem with the pro-socialism/Bernie-or-Bust Twitterati bubble is that it convinces people that Bernie actually had a chance of winning the EC, which is quite literally the only game that matters in the presidential election. If you want progressive change, by all means, push to get your local congress critters to be true progressives and push the party leftwards. Have them push through the reforms that need to happen. But it's disingenuous to suggest that Bernie could have actually clinched the presidency, and that even if he had, magically we become some socialist paradise of affordable healthcare and police reform etc. etc. etc. And that's all that seems to be the spirit of the argument that "Well actually, Biden is a horrible monster, worse than Trump!"

And loving of course we're settling for less, because magical thinking and what-ifs are loving meaningless. Get a guy in the office that isn't going to continue literally locking migrant children up in cages and who will sign some progressive legislation. And make sure your reps/senators are the people who will write the legislation. That's it. That's the game. Everything else is political fanfic.

I just called up Biden and asked him if he will stop kids from being locked in cages and he yelled at me to vote for Trump instead.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

rscott posted:

John Kaisch was one of Newt Gringrich's main lieutenants when he was in the house in the 90s, it's insane how the reflexive desire to defend people on "our" team manifests itself. Can't wait for the 2032 DNC when Tom Cotton is a distinguished guest as they run Dan Lipinksi against Ivanka Trump

Honestly I feel like the only thing that'd keep democrats from rehabilitating Trump in the same way they've rehabilitated Bush, is that Trump won't gently caress off from the public eye for years after leaving office.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

theflyingorc posted:

If only Obama had used his huge amounts of power, as an ex president, to stop Trump. :(

Yes? If nothing else being a respected former president means you have a lot of influence. Obviously he can't outright stop Trump but if he wanted to lessen some of the harm Trump is causing then there's plenty he could do besides telling people to vote.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Mooseontheloose posted:

Ugh federal debt is going to matter again isn't it?

Hell, we're gonna see it coming from Biden as well.

quote:

Former Delaware Sen. Ted Kaufman, a Biden confidant who succeeded him in the Senate, predicted during a Wall Street Journal Newsmakers Live interview Tuesday that a large increase in federal spending would be difficult to achieve in 2021.

“When we get in, the pantry is going to be bare,” said Mr. Kaufman, who is leading Mr. Biden’s transition team. “When you see what Trump’s done to the deficit…forget about Covid-19, all the deficits that he built with the incredible tax cuts. So we’re going to be limited.”

Gotta love those household metaphors for the deficit!

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

ought ten posted:

That was weeks ago and IIRC he already walked it back, or other blue dogs did. I’m ready to eat my words but Biden is not running on “austerity now!”

I hope they're fully committed to walking it back, tho I'm pretty skeptical about the whole thing myself and I'll only believe it by his actions.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Medullah posted:

One of my fellow managers who's still anti work from home asked me "How do you know they're working all day? How do you know they don't spend two hours watching a movie?"

I responded "I give them a poo poo ton of work. If they're able to bust their asses and get it all done in 6 hours so they can watch a movie, badass I hope it's a good one."

Anyone who even asks that question has no idea how easy it can be to slack off in an office.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011


The phrase "Plans to" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Mr Interweb posted:

a couple of weeks ago, i mentioned how trump's handling of the pandemic was super baffling to me, and the revelation that trump thought it was a serious threat has....only made me MORE confused.

now, it's one thing for trump to downplay the pandemic in order to save the stock market if he figured it would only effect his idiot voters and anyone else that they have the unfortunate pleasure of coming into contact with. but while he was secretly treating it seriously, he went out and had 5 rallies within the same month, never engaged in social distancing, and rarely wore a mask since. if trump actually thought corona was something that was legit dangerous, why has never shown any concern for it, even if it were just FOR HIMSELF? i mean, the guy is 77 years old and probably has every comorbidity known to man. the prime target demographic for covid-19. and yet, trump seemingly can't even act in terms of self-preservation!

I feel like a pretty big chunk of it is that he was operating under the assumption that blue states would be hurt the most by it and not, y'know, something that can easily spread everywhere.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Data Graham posted:

I swear to god if I never hear the word "ratings" again in my life it'll be too soon

Yeah it's an extremely minuscule thing to gripe about but I'm so sick of hearing it too. All sorts of ways to talk about if something was a success and his broken 1980s brain focuses on just ratings.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

SalTheBard posted:

I really wish RBG had retired when loving Obama asked her to.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Phlag posted:

One more to add to the list:
https://twitter.com/abdallah_fayyad/status/1307103932955725825?s=21
(He’s the chair now.)

Dang, Lindsey Graham would look like quite the fool if he did something hypocritical.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Mr Interweb posted:

this makes no sense. if biden wins, wouldn't that mean mcconnell's own dumbass self-imposed rule not apply?

No republican will ever be harmed in the slightest if someone points out their hypocrisy.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

freeasinbeer posted:

It’s a bit mealy mouthed but I kicked $25 his way for mentioning court packing.

Honestly the way he said it feels like the best approach to try to get centrists on board with the idea.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Nonsense posted:

I thought the whole issue with even bringing up privilege and such with regard to emigrating is that the United States continues to tax your income. I do not know the scenarios involved when you do not pay this income tax or if you can return freely to the US when you don't.

The amount you have to make before you'd get taxed by the US after emigrating is pretty high, I wanna say a bit over 100k?

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

How are u posted:

How much grift would you be ok with if your policy goals were being achieved?

If someone could get Medicare for All passed, as far as I'm concerned they could be the biggest grifter to ever live and it would still be worth it. I feel like most people here would feel similarly to an extent?

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Rigel posted:

Yes, and it really doesn't take much at all. A simple majority of congress can revise the law limiting the supreme court to 9, and expand it to 13 (the number a lot of people are throwing out there now). 4 Biden judges later, and we have a 7-6 majority. This is not at all a "final victory".

If after the election we have the senate but only a bare majority and some poo poo Dem like Manchin is refusing to go along, then we continue electing Democrats as the GOP literally dies.

The Republican party really is doomed, but if it ends up looking like it will take a few more years (we'll pretty much know whether we can do anything meaningful or not by the Spring) then yeah, feel free to check out a few years, then check back in when you hear about more electoral victories.

I'm feeling really skeptical about the republican party truly being doomed, I'll only believe it when they're buried in the ground. I've heard it several times during my life and they keep bouncing back.

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Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Rigel posted:

They haven't really bounced back though on numbers. They started from a massive coalition during Reagan that was almost unbeatable, and every election they lose more and more voters. It varies a bit, but they are now at the point where its no longer reasonable to expect them to get a majority of the national vote anymore going forward even when faced with the most unpopular opponent in decades, and it will continue to get worse for them. MUCH worse. They did not need to rely on structural advantages like smaller states in the past, but now it is the ONLY thing allowing them to cling to power as a minority party, but their advantages will no longer be enough as they continue to bleed support. They are headed towards the electoral ditch of becoming an irrelevant regional southern party.

I really do hope that happens and that they don't find some method to start winning back voters. Since yeah you're right, those trends aren't looking good for them at all in the long run. But I just can't fully believe in it until it finally happens. Hope for the best and plan for the worst, etc.

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