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Do you have any and if you do how do you feel about them? Do you pay for any of them? They're sort of a weird thing to me. Sometimes I'll watch a letsplay or something and I can see the appeal of them but I have no desire at all to really interact with these people or get to know them. The idea of having internet only friends that I interact with genuinely and repeatedly is something I did away with a long time because I realized that they're ultimately unfulfilling and shallow. The idea of being one person in a chat trying to get the attention of some twitch streamer as a replacement for actual friendship is anathema to me. It's not that I don't get the impulse to reach out or that I never feel lonely it's just that I don't see those sorts of relationships and a solution to that. It's something I've been thinking about a lot lately. Especially with the drama here and some peoples extreme reaction to the possibility of this place closing down. It's easy to brush off these sorts of relationships as pathetic and sad but clearly there's a massive demand for it. We're all so isolated and these parasitic companies like twitch are making billions off it.
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same, op.
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Jul 18, 2020 05:03
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Funky See Funky Do posted:Do you have any and if you do how do you feel about them? Do you pay for any of them? Piss meridian has donated $600 His request: Sorry it wasn't more, I'm having trouble paying for chemo
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Jul 18, 2020 05:24
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I only think they're really harmful when it comes to politics. A lot of extremely online people end up conflating loyalty to one internet clique or another with politics more generally, and I think that's frequently not a good thing. Otherwise I don't really care, let people have their online pseudo-friends. Especially right now.
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Jul 18, 2020 05:32
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Hell yeah I listen to podcasts
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Jul 18, 2020 05:41
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I mean, listening to some streamers or podcasts can cheer me up when I'm home working by myself, just to have some voices in the background like turning on the radio for a dog so he's not lonely when you're gone I'll pay them to get extra content or requests or whatever, but I've never given a streamer any notice-me money
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Jul 18, 2020 05:52
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Piss Meridian posted:Piss meridian has donated $600 His request: Sorry it wasn't more, I'm having trouble paying for chemo Hey man that's cool thanks a lot for the donation it really means a lot. DM me I know a great estate lawyer that can talk to you about how to upgrade to an Ethereal Class supporter.
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Jul 18, 2020 05:55
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I saw a guy make over 500 bux on Twitch in 40 minutes. He wasn't even playing games. He was just being hype
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Jul 18, 2020 05:58
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Parasocial relationship? Like a lurker, but half way IRL?
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Jul 18, 2020 05:59
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Inverted Icon posted:I saw a guy make over 500 bux on Twitch in 40 minutes. He wasn't even playing games. He was just being hype People drop thousands of dollars in a single donation for a chance to connect with these streamers on a more one-to-one level.
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Jul 18, 2020 06:02
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I think it's unfair when normalcools act like it's a bad thing all my friends are people whose youtube I watch. I'm already lonely enough why do you want to take this away from me too and make me even more miserable?
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Jul 18, 2020 06:15
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Yea. Think they've been a thing since the invention of the radio tho
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Jul 18, 2020 06:21
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I too have had sex with a ghost, not Patrick Swayze though sadly
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Jul 18, 2020 06:24
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If I listen to the same podcast a lot I do feel like, more empathetic towards the speakers and the feeling is kind of similar to friendships. It's probably just hearing a voice frequently. It never goes to a weird place or anything for me.
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Jul 18, 2020 06:24
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Is that when you gently caress a ghost? Cause I gotta say I saw ghost Busters as a child and it was a very formative experience
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Jul 18, 2020 06:25
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yeah that;s cool whatever. i like to listen to podcasts and pretend the hosts are my friends but secretly we all hate one of them and i try to imagine how their different interactions could be construed as sarcastic or insulting and i;m like "haha yeah gently caress you rear end in a top hat we all hate you!!" in my head and i'm pretending the good hosts are all nodding and winking like haha we got his rear end
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the only podcasts I really listen to are horror fiction podcasts but I like to pretend the cinemassacre guys are my friends
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I used to date a camgirl. Of course, she got lots of money from weird guys asking for weird things (a guy paid her $400 to buy a cake and step in it barefoot in the Wal-Mart) but more often her big fishes were guys that wanted really normal things. I remember a guy that would pay $150 for a 10 minute phone call, nothing sexual, and she'd talk to him at least a couple times a week. Another guy would pay $5 a text message to chat with her 1 on 1 , again, not sexual. The guy just wanted someone in his life to swoon over his music career. I don't remember where I was going with this...  edit: In before "how much did you pay her?  "
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Jul 18, 2020 06:50
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I used to cam, people had parasocial relationships jackin it 2 me
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Jul 18, 2020 06:51
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Lot of evidence of parasocial relationships in the podcast subforum.
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You know now that I think about it does seem to be almost exclusively a male thing. I watched a couple of documentaries about it and they interviewed bunches of guys talking about their experiences with it but not a single woman. As the viewer I mean, obviously a ton of streamers are women and a lot of the parasocial relationships are standing in for a lack of romantic connection.
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Jul 18, 2020 07:01
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Unfortunately all my relationships in real life are parasocial
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Jul 18, 2020 07:23
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I don't think parasocial relationships are unhealthy per se, but they definitely can go badly, e.g. people who spend way too much money on twitch streamers and also stalkers.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:I don't think parasocial relationships are unhealthy per se, but they definitely can go badly, e.g. people who spend way too much money on twitch streamers and also stalkers. I guess it depends on what kind we're talking about. Someone on facebook or from SA or whatever that you talk to and maintain kind of a pen-pal relationship with are not inherently bad. Both parties get something out of it and it's a genuine interaction. I don't think it's a substitute for face to face relationships but it's not a bad thing. On the other hand! I think the kind I'm mostly talking about in the OP, the transactional relationships people have with streamers or cam girls are inherently unhealthy and hosed up.
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I mean I have youtubers and podcasters that I like as people, but only to the extent that I think some of them might be cool to hang out with in real life (i realize some of them could be assholes as well). When FF7 Remake came out one of the voice actresses did a stream of her playing the game and when i went to watch some it was just her doing nothing but thanking subscribers and donors for like an hour straight before she even got into playing the game, that poo poo's sad.
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This thread, or rather, what this thread helps illustrate is a broadening misuse of the term. Because I formed "parasocial relationships" with television and video game characters as a lonely child. What you're honing in on is the degree to which social media has mediated such relationships to be much less healthy than where ordinary escapism may take you
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Jul 18, 2020 08:54
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shawn and gus of psych are my friends and nothing you say will change that
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TheAardvark posted:shawn and gus of psych are my friends and nothing you say will change that
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Funky See Funky Do posted:You know now that I think about it does seem to be almost exclusively a male thing. Let me tell you about a little band called The Beatles.
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Daikloktos posted:This thread, or rather, what this thread helps illustrate is a broadening misuse of the term. Because I formed "parasocial relationships" with television and video game characters as a lonely child. What you're honing in on is the degree to which social media has mediated such relationships to be much less healthy than where ordinary escapism may take you I don't know of another better word to describe what I'm talking about. You're right being FB friends with someone isn't parasocial but I guess I'm lumping it in because it's part of the trend away from face to face interaction.
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Daikloktos posted:This thread, or rather, what this thread helps illustrate is a broadening misuse of the term. Because I formed "parasocial relationships" with television and video game characters as a lonely child. What you're honing in on is the degree to which social media has mediated such relationships to be much less healthy than where ordinary escapism may take you The difference between parasocial relationships and just "being a fan" imo is that social media makes it much more easy to sustain the illusion that you actually have a relationship with these people (their posts appear right next to people that you actually know!), and in some cases you may actually have some kind of ersatz-relationship with them (streamers responding to what people write in chat if you donate or whatever). It's much easier to trick your dumb brain into thinking they're someone you actually know that way rather than more conventional kinds of celebrity.
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Nick Stav and Adam are my friends
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Wizard Master posted:Nick Stav and Adam are my friends Stav is the friendliest one, have you seen his advice show?
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Oh no, you're right, it's just a square-rectangle kind of thing. Like, I'm just old enough I experienced my preteen years before I had access to internet forums to preoccupy myself. I was the classically socially awkward and overly analytical goon with a broken home so it was nice to have Nick at Night and TV Land providing me an endless array of warm family situations to lose myself in during my ample free time feeling anxious. That's a good example of "parasocial relationship". Before the internet transformed every facet of everything you could see broad examples of negative parasocial relationships with TV, in the classic Trekkie stereotype. Even going back to Cervantez Don Quixote was satirizing a real life trend of what we might these days dub "chivalboos" writing epic knight fanfiction. You can find historical teardowns of every contentious figure who had this or that "unhealthy" relationship with a children's book they loved, as if having a sense of wonder and nostalgia makes you terrible. Where the internet transforms what is already a fraught aspect of psychology is when I'm the third admin in the history of the Diff'rent Strokes-Facts of Life Shared Universe fanforum, that's where I found my wife, politics, and religious viewpoints, and the thoughts and behaviors its influencing are causing problems in my functioning and relation to people in the more important parts of life. The way this applies to pornography and the modern Cam scene and whatever an OnlyFans is... I get the decentralized pimp-free working environment and all the empowerment but it causes me legitimate distress to think about the interpersonal implications of deeply parasocial sex work. I genuinely try to scroll those posts off my screen so I don't get any intrusive thoughts that bum me out Daikloktos fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Jul 18, 2020 |
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Still Dismal posted:The difference between parasocial relationships and just "being a fan" imo is that social media makes it much more easy to sustain the illusion that you actually have a relationship with these people (their posts appear right next to people that you actually know!), and in some cases you may actually have some kind of ersatz-relationship with them (streamers responding to what people write in chat if you donate or whatever). It's much easier to trick your dumb brain into thinking they're someone you actually know that way rather than more conventional kinds of celebrity. Daikloktos fucked around with this message at 12:03 on Jul 18, 2020 |
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I don't know what direction this nails my point home in, but I'm legitimately kicking myself that I couldn't remember the other spinoff from Diff'rent Strokes because there's at least one person out there reading who caught that obvious omission and is smirking at me.
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Jul 18, 2020 10:12
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The worst kind of parasocial relationship addled people are band fans and sport fans.
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Jul 18, 2020 12:36
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i don't like heights op, so jumping out of an aeroplane is not for me.
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Colonel Cancer posted:The worst kind of parasocial relationship addled people are band fans and sport fans. its people who follow podcasters on twitter
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I talked about this topic in a thread in games somewhere. People who donate hundreds to twitch streamers are so sad
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