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MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Look, if this is some bullshit they're leaking out to get people to watch RAW then bravo Vince, cause it fuckin' worked, I'll be there at 8 PM with bells on.

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MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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I cannot stress this enough.

They did a full video package recapping Asuka's match with Sasha last week.
And then later in the night they did a full video package recapping the ENTIRE Seth/Mysterio feud, their match at Extreme Rules and the segment last week between Seth and Dominick.

In a show that was almost nothing but talking, they also did two long rear end video packages, the longer of which was smack in the middle of the third hour. I felt like I was in the loving twilight zone.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Minidust posted:

Honestly if this is just a weird new format for doing some rapid-fire enhancement matches, it isn’t the worst thing in the world. The Boneyard-meets-Def Jam Vendetta presentation feels a bit different, outside of the camera cuts of course.

With that said there’s no way this still exists 3 months from now, so no point giving it this much thought really

lovely worked MMA with eight billion camera cuts and Shane doing commentary sounds pretty close to the worst thing in the world to me, I dunno.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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That is so terrible it makes me wonder if Cole is a babyface now.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Codependent Poster posted:

Yeah, I think they've done a soft face turn for TUE.

They haven't done the greatest with turns lately.

Between Ciampa and this, NXT really loves to turn guys face without actually having them do anything face-like, don't they.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Nipponophile posted:

Adam Cole is simply the latest victim of the NXT North American Championship Ladder Match Curse.

If I were Killian Dain, I would be very nervous right now.

Lars - Kalisto
EC3 - Impact
Ricochet - Buried
Adam Cole - Punted
Velveteen - Sex crimes
Dain - ???

How is the guy who got fired and wound up in Impact the one who got off light?

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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So wait.

They just came back from commercial and Bray and Alexa were already in the ring with no set-up?

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Intruder posted:

Bray was out there before commercial, Alexa just kind of materialized

Also the way she stopped the mandible claw was by gently caressing his cheek and he got angry and stomped away

Is this like.

Is this a double turn?

Alexa does the "show kindness to the beast" thing and Bray walks away, implying he doesn't actually want to hurt her. Then Braun outright says he doesn't give a poo poo about helping Alexa and cuts THE CRINGIEST loving PROMO I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY loving LIFE and they cut to Bray and he's just like ".....uhhhh.........what?"

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Bianca should've beat the poo poo out of Zelina and then sat down and continued the interview.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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So Raw Underground is still just nobodies doing squash matches. Cool. Writing it off forever.

(this is not me calling Shayna a nobody, Shayna owns, but they see Shayna as a nobody)

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Hey look, here's some numbers. They mostly go down!

Last Raw with crowds:
P18-49: 0.68, 0.71, 0.68
P18-34: 0.49, 0.52, 0.51
Viewership: 2.15, 2.22, 2.10

First Covid Raw:
P18-49: 0.80, 0.77, 0.70
P18-34: 0.54, 0.53, 0.48
Viewership: 2.41, 2.48, 2.10

Raw After Mania:
P18-49: 0.78, 0.69, 0.64
P18-34: 0.40, 0.36, 0.38
Viewership: 2.31, 2.06, 1.92

Raw After Raw After Mania:
P18-49: 0.59, 0.56, 0.52
P18-34: 0.34, 0.30, 0.27
Viewership: 1.99, 1.91, 1.83

Heyman's last Raw:
P18-49: 0.55, 0.55, 0.48
P18-34: 0.34, .033, 0.29
Viewership: 1.82, 1.79, 1.59

This week's Raw:
P18-49: 0.50, 0.46, 0.46
P18-34: 0.19, 0.23, 0.23
Viewership: 1.81, 1.75, 1.60

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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It wasn't exactly doing great in the covid era under Heyman but it's becoming a complete loving dumpster fire under Pritchard.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Benne posted:

It's been said before but it's really damning how much WWE ratings tanked during a period where there were no sports. loving NASCAR video game sims killed it in the ratings because people were desperate for any kind of live content, and even then they looked at WWE and were like "nah we're good."

AEW went down too, showing it's not just WWE - empty arena wrestling is a stone cold bummer to watch if you don't do it right. But whereas AEW has rebounded and is back to pre-pandemic numbers, Raw and SmackDown have just continued to crater.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Seth was a pretty big fuckboy but he seems to have grown up in that aspect at least.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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So....

Yeah, Braun and Fiend did a double turn.

Weird.

Aphrodite posted:

They did a "gently caress you, gently caress you, gently caress you, you're cool" style joke with Braun and her once

Wasn't that Finn? He and Alexa do have very similar abs, granted.

Benne posted:

This is straight up porn-tier levels of "acting"

Big fan of them foreshadowing Alexa's gonna slap him by having her say "I'm gonna slap you."

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Watching Braun's dumpster fire of a career unfold in real time has been something. Maybe Vince was right to not put the belt on him in 2017, 'cause lordy does it suck rear end in 2020.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Astro7x posted:

So they did the same thing Monday as well, where they led up to the big moment to end the show and then cut the light? Like, JFC... it's like someone got this great idea to do this so they had to do it again.

Hey.

On Monday, it was Retribution cutting the lights. On Friday, it was the Fiend cutting the lights. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

Lid posted:

This confuses me because #NaomiDeservesBetter was, under my impression, an astroturf and an excuse for a push as nothing about it seemed really organic. Except maybe it was organic and then they gave up after one week? I don't know.

They got tap dancin' Booker T to bitch about it on his podcast, so no, I don't think it was astroturfed.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Can't wait for Renee's shoot on WWE.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Rarity posted:

WWE's women's division has a whole bunch of problems which mostly involves a whole bunch of great talent being stuck in catering or jobbing constantly cause Creative has nothing for them

Benne posted:

AEW's division has been crippled by the pandemic/injuries and is comically paper-thin --

Hmmmmmmmm.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Benne posted:

Riho drew ratings and Shida isn't, in case that's the assumption you're making

Shida vs. Ford gained viewers. Give Shida something to work with and she'll do fine, but there just isn't anybody for her to wrestle right now. I think her murdering jobbers is good TV, but it keeps dying a death in the ratings.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Rarity posted:

For all that people bitched about Riho being a part-timer she had such a naturally loveable persona and was massively over. She popped off the TV screen like a star in a way that Shida doesn't

Riho Lesnar didn't show up for work today....

Riho does have a legitimate star quality that as of yet hasn't been revealed in Shida but in all fairness to Shida, she's spent pretty much all of her quest to the top, her win and her title reign in the covid era.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Dangerous Person posted:

Did anybody else initially read this as I own Renee

Yup!

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Benne posted:

Remember when they brought in Devitt and Kevin Steen and El Generico and Shinsuke Nakamura, and people were really excited about a brand new era of WWE, and now everyone is just 5 years older

Remember when Kevin Owens spent like a month falling off everything to put over Braun Strowman and then Braun's cash-in ended in a no contest.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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dsriggs posted:

...umm... ...y’see the thing is, that, uhh... oh jeez... :sweatdrop:

YOU hosed UP!
YOU hosed UP!
YOU hosed UP!

I like how they don't even know Edge's name.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Gavok posted:

*continues to calmly eat a burger while dsriggs runs into the burning kitchen*

Well, FIGHT ISLAND, I made it....despite your name change.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Lol 23rd in the demo.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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That is going to look so loving bad on TV. And they're locked into this poo poo for 3 months?

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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https://twitter.com/thedaytodave/status/1296577127068966916

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Man, Keith Lee was so over and he got so unbelievably screwed.

His run to the top was condensed into two weeks to pop a number against AEW, then he dropped one of his belts and turned into a belt pillow for Karrion Kross. Between his quest to win the belt and his reign, they could've gotten a solid year out of him in NXT and they condensed it all into like. A month and a half.

Wack.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Any reporter that doesn't barrage HHH with questions over this Dream poo poo at every opportunity is a loving coward.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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People are tying ribbons on McAfee/Cole all over twitter, am I alone in thinking it was absolutely nothing special? Even by celebrity match standards, I thought Amell/Daniels was better.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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jesus WEP posted:

Idk if this is just an impression I get as a foreigner but it always seems like media consumers in Canada just constantly get loving owned on absolutely everything

Ask them how much they like their Rogers service!

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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oldpainless posted:


Quite the accomplishment!

Uh. My rear end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4GP1LYwsjk

This happened in 2016.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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So, how long until the next outbreak at the THUNDERDOME?

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Roman staying home and not playing Vince's stupid game was the most interesting thing he had ever done, so showing up to play Vince's stupid game and going right back to invincible Big Dog with his weird rear end new teeth, fake tan and blue contacts again, somehow, makes him boring as dishwater all over again, frankly. And very stupid, given WWE is still getting positive cases, but, it's his god given right to be stupid with his own health, I guess.

Like, I wondered what the hell the face/heel dynamic of this Braun/Bray feud was supposed to be and it was literally just them turning Braun heel so Roman would have a monster to slay. AGAIN. Seen it. Pass.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Weird coincidence how the complaining era is happening at the same time as the lost 75% of our audience in four years era and the record low ratings every other week era.,

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Jerusalem posted:

[*] Aleister Black attacked Kevin Owens during the Kevin Owens show.

Fffffffffffffuck you.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Jesus Christ, the NXT Championship is so loving dead.

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MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Gaz-L posted:

Oh, so shorter than a normal Cole/Gargano match, then?

Ha.

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