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Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

It's next to the empty vat of nutrient fluids decorated by a brass plaque labelled "Geoffrey of Y-"

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Mr. Fish
Sep 13, 2017

INLAND EMPIRE — This is a team with a lot of past, but little present. And almost no future.
Get That Beat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOMEUamYkc

Dustcat
Jan 26, 2019

trying to kill a president is a terrible idea. just report him to the cia and let them handle it

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Korean Boomhauer posted:

func_vehicle

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
it all makes sense now, lowtax got epsteined after cspam rose from the ashes of LF

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

breadnsucc posted:

lmao opsec guys geez

lol what a post with hindsight

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

breadnsucc posted:

lmao opsec guys geez


John Charity Spring posted:

lol what a post with hindsight

hahah drat

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


John Charity Spring posted:

lol what a post with hindsight

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

lol

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Dreylad posted:

That's the way SA's posting style and content has changed over the last decade more than anything.

I'd be fine if CSPAM annihilated all its megathreads but they'd eventually be recreated.

people would rather be casual and friendly with each other than spending time creating things because they have work obligations or it become their job proper

the world moved on, so that's what's happening now

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

yeah the people here now are still basically the same people as were here ten-fifteen years ago, they just got older, more tired and their numbers dwindled. you get less reward and less community for making fun stuff

also imo the culture has changed from the hard-line rear end in a top hat irreverence into something more prudish and moralistic. LF existed at the death of the old paradigm and so they could turn it against itself; CSPAM is fully within the new one

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

breadnsucc posted:

lmao lmao, this whole poo poo is also the reason people won't let us talk about doing things in minecraft or whatever because oh no spooky feds but apparently the original excuse was made up bullshit because lowtax is a piece of poo poo

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Victory Position posted:

people would rather be casual and friendly with each other than spending time creating things because they have work obligations or it become their job proper

the world moved on, so that's what's happening now

yeah, ten years ago I had a lot more free time to read long posts and effortpost in response, nowadays I have less free time and my day job is basically effortposting so I tend to use cspam as a place to chill and chat. I'm pretty sure a lot of other cspam posters could say something similar

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

V. Illych L. posted:

also imo the culture has changed from the hard-line rear end in a top hat irreverence into something more prudish and moralistic. LF existed at the death of the old paradigm and so they could turn it against itself; CSPAM is fully within the new one

I think it speaks more to the experiences of people than it does an erosion of culture; that people got wiser and snapped out of things that were impossible or otherwise unreachable

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

i'm not saying anything eroded in a pejorative sense, just that it changed. when LF was young the big cartoon was south park, whose main feature was edgy provocation. the limits of that paradigm became obvious, however, so online culture shifted. and so it goes

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

we should be careful about assuming that the cultural values of the moment are "wiser" or more enlightened than those that came before. they're mostly just answering different needs. eventually the cultural neuroses of our own moment will be exposed, and the culture will shift again. history does not progress in a linear manner, and human morality is a very flexible thing; it adapts to the conditions of its time and place.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

vyelkin posted:

yeah, ten years ago I had a lot more free time to read long posts and effortpost in response, nowadays I have less free time and my day job is basically effortposting so I tend to use cspam as a place to chill and chat. I'm pretty sure a lot of other cspam posters could say something similar

I refuse to read anything longer than a sentence.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

AnimeIsTrash posted:

I refuse to read anything longer than a sentence.

this is why i post without punctuation

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

vyelkin posted:

this is why i post without punctuation

*paul atreides voice* post without punctuation

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Azathoth posted:

*paul atreides voice* post without punctuation

i must not punctuate
punctuation is the mindkiller

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

V. Illych L. posted:

we should be careful about assuming that the cultural values of the moment are "wiser" or more enlightened than those that came before. they're mostly just answering different needs. eventually the cultural neuroses of our own moment will be exposed, and the culture will shift again. history does not progress in a linear manner, and human morality is a very flexible thing; it adapts to the conditions of its time and place.

I agree with this, sensibilities change

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Victory Position posted:

I agree with this, sensibilities change

I watched back through the first robot chicken season a few weeks ago with a buddy as a nostalgia/let’s see how this hold up exercise and it’s incredible what a perfect time capsule it is of the mid 2000s in every way

guidoanselmi
Feb 6, 2008

I thought my ideas were so clear. I wanted to make an honest post. No lies whatsoever.

V. Illych L. posted:

we should be careful about assuming that the cultural values of the moment are "wiser" or more enlightened than those that came before. they're mostly just answering different needs. eventually the cultural neuroses of our own moment will be exposed, and the culture will shift again. history does not progress in a linear manner, and human morality is a very flexible thing; it adapts to the conditions of its time and place.

Let us beware, however, of being led by such examples into a pharisaic self-satisfaction. Laws and ethical traditions may be improved; but it is, after all, the individual who has to choose between good and evil. Like the artist, he has to solve each particular problem from the beginning, as though there had never been any moral beings before himself. The believers in progress are apt to think too much in terms of society and the community — in terms of laws, ethical systems, social conditions, economics, of everything and anything except the individual with his soul and his liberty of choice. The satisfaction which looks at abstract figures about humanity at large finds it fairly easy to believe in moral progress. The orthodox Christian, who considers the individual soul, does not. For every individual soul has its share, in theological language, of original sin. All the social rearrangements do is to make it easier for the individual to avoid one kind of sin and harder to avoid other kinds. Thus the pacification and commercialization of a war-like society will naturally results in a reduction of the amount of violence and cruelty and an increase of covetousness and fraud. We congratulate ourselves sanctimoniously on being less bloodyminded than our fathers; but we forget that our avarice is as deadly a sin as their anger. Similarly, the enrichment of classes previously poor may lead to a decrease of envy and diminish the temptation to steal; but concurrently it tends to increase pride and self-satisfaction and to multiply the possibilities of sloth, gluttony, and lust. A close inspection reveals the fact that most so-called moral progress is really not a progress at all but merely a re-valuation of values and a re-distribution of temptations. Every society has its characteristic vices and virtues. The individual will tend to magnify the virtues and belittle the vices of his particular community. Thus, at present, we hate violence and condone covetousness, pride, and gluttony. In the ages of chivalry, men admired courage and magnanimity and set little store by our commercial virtues of patience, prudence, and industry. Anger and its violent manifestations were for them venial; but they hated avarice and they all theoretically admired, while not a few actually practiced, asceticism and humility. Have men morally progressed since the time of the Crusades? Very little, I should imagine. The most we can say is that the commonest virtues and the most prevalent vices are not the same as they are seven hundred years ago.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
What does LF mean anyway? I get that it's a defunct subforum, but SApedia doesn't seem to have an entry for it.

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Laissez's Faire (or Fair, I forget)

Suspicious
Apr 30, 2005
You know he's the villain, because he's got shifty eyes.
laissez's fair, because in 07/08 the forums were packed full of libertarians

linoleum floors
Mar 25, 2012

Please. Let me tell you all about how you're all idiots. I am of superior intellect here. Go suck some dicks. You have all fucking stupid opinions. This is my fucking opinion.
Well now lowtax is dead so whose had the last laugh

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

linoleum floors posted:

Well now lowtax is dead so whose had the last laugh

The CIA, as usual

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

UPDATE!

If you read the sagas thread at all, you may have noticed the following posted a few months back in October:

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

*ignores whatever this is*

Okay I have 100% proof the secret service thing happened - privately I thought it was kinda dumb that people concluded it was a lie so readily, but now I have documentation. I have emails to radium from lowtax saying they visited the office to drop off a federal subpoena that day, and making them the account. This is the account https://forums.somethingawful.com/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=170309 and it's complete with a secret service email address. It hasn't been logged into since 2010 which is the year this all went down.

Armed with this information, I contacted the FOIA office at the Secret Service and asked for their advice, which was to resubmit a FOIA request and "provide as much detail as possible." And so I did and was surprised at the findings:





Doesn't quite sound like anything I recall in LF. Also its from a year later. Who's to say what really happened? All I know is that someone emailed the Secret Service a screenshot containing "pornographic male homosexual images."

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

lol

Hatebag
Jun 17, 2008


Lol someone reported a post to the fbi. The megamods
Foia request to leak the FBI's secret mod forum

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

sounds like LF definitely made a credible threat against the president and the fbi wasn't just chasing the dumbest goose that's ever lived

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

sounds like LF definitely made a credible threat against the president and the fbi wasn't just chasing the dumbest goose that's ever lived

LF posters should have used a "cartoon cat" in their op

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

bedpan posted:

UPDATE!
(..)

But that SS account was registered end of 2010, while the cartoon cat was making threats in 2011?

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Pingui posted:

But that SS account was registered end of 2010, while the cartoon cat was making threats in 2011?

Don't know if the SS has record retention policies. I may have just missed the cut off. Or lowtax was lying. I did request records dating back to 2009.

bedpan has issued a correction as of 16:20 on Feb 2, 2023

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

imagine being so red hot mad at your posting enemies that you’d report a post to the fbi lmao

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

bawfuls posted:

imagine being so red hot mad at your posting enemies that you’d report a post to the fbi lmao

yeah the FBI reported back nothing found. the SS still had a copy of it though.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

I hope the "pornographic male homosexual images" was the goatman

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croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
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