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Eox posted:So if they do the Four Fiends from FF4 as a trial series, which one are we thinking gets killed in a solo duty? Rubicante, because he demands a respectful duel.
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I think it would open with a solo duty against Scarmiglione, then a trial against Cagnazzo, then another trial against Barbariccia, then a solo against Rubicante, and the last trial boss would be Geryon from TAY is the e in Rubicante silent or does his name rhyme with picante
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Chillgamesh posted:I think it would open with a solo duty against Scarmiglione, then a trial against Cagnazzo, then another trial against Barbariccia, then a solo against Rubicante, and the last trial boss would be Geryon from TAY It’s Italian, so picante. Barbariccia means curly beard
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Feb 8, 2021 23:43
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Scarmiglione has two phases ready to go, though. I'd hate to relegate him to a solo duty when there's a kickass-looking raidwide and a bangin' soundtrack change to be had edit: no matter what, we better get a soken cover of the FF4 boss theme out of endwalker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl5D9mVy7js
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Eox posted:Scarmiglione has two phases ready to go, though. I'd hate to relegate him to a solo duty when there's a kickass-looking raidwide and a bangin' soundtrack change to be had Hell yes. My favorite boss theme of the series.
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honestly it could mean as little as "this healer has an honest-to-god dps rotation"
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Maybe they could do Scarmiglione in 6.2, random solo duty or just skip that and do more exposition in 6.3, Cagnazzo + Barbariccia combo fight in 6.4, and Rubicante in 6.5.Eox posted:Scarmiglione has two phases ready to go, though. I'd hate to relegate him to a solo duty when there's a kickass-looking raidwide and a bangin' soundtrack change to be had https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf9e9lJgaVU
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Feb 8, 2021 23:51
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They have the buttrock version ready to go this time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8vz186pjY0 
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Feb 8, 2021 23:51
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Obviously we fight Scarmiglione with the G-Warrior
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cheetah7071 posted:honestly it could mean as little as "this healer has an honest-to-god dps rotation" I'd be genuinely concerned about this. You ever had your resurrection delayed because the Red Mage hit their melee phase? Imagine if it was your actual healer. Healers don't have enough to do, but a DPS rotation doesn't solve it, because they need to be able to drop what they're doing and heal people at the drop of a hat. Giving them a combo creates worse issues than it solves.
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Cleretic posted:I'd be genuinely concerned about this. You ever had your resurrection delayed because the Red Mage hit their melee phase? Imagine if it was your actual healer. just make the combo not drop if you cast a heal/rez, some gunbreaker and dark knight stuff already does that
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Feb 9, 2021 00:26
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Having dps and heal combos that can link between each other could be a cool gimmick
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Feb 9, 2021 00:28
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they'll be the first healer with an oGCD res, clearly
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if they're not doing a patch story continuation and just ending the arc at 6.0 we could get all four raids from 6.2-6.5.
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Eimi posted:They have the buttrock version ready to go this time The Primals should perform this version.
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Chillgamesh posted:I think it would open with a solo duty against Scarmiglione, then a trial against Cagnazzo, then another trial against Barbariccia, then a solo against Rubicante, and the last trial boss would be Geryon from TAY If we fight the Four Fiends, then I could see the Giant of Babel factoring into it somehow.
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Still have to wonder about the future. Now that Crystal Tower is mandatory, there's the bit from the epilogue where Nero's scanning device beeps "It's all wrong" in Morse code after he tosses it into the depths. And if they ever decide to do something with it, Silvertear Lake could still have the "Presence" that was meant to tie in with 1.0's original endgame. Then of course, the New World and Meracydia are places we're not likely to go during 6.0.
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That's why I think the 24 man's burning lore question is gonna be addressing Silverthorne. Seems like the biggest and longest loose end.
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Hogama posted:Still have to wonder about the future. Now that Crystal Tower is mandatory, there's the bit from the epilogue where Nero's scanning device beeps "It's all wrong" in Morse code after he tosses it into the depths. And if they ever decide to do something with it, Silvertear Lake could still have the "Presence" that was meant to tie in with 1.0's original endgame. Then of course, the New World and Meracydia are places we're not likely to go during 6.0. A bunch of people think that Silvertear is the 'long-standing mystery' that will be focused on for the Endwalker alliance raid. Personally, I think that one will be reserved for an MSQ, and the alliance raid will be something like Gelmorra. But maybe that's because I don't really care about Silvertear since it's been so irrelevant throughout all the game's live content, so they can let that sleep and focus on something they've actually acknowledged at any point since ARR.
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https://i.imgur.com/TCz2jSC.mp4
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I think Lake Silvertear is, like, the gateway to Hydaelyn or something. If the Garleans had shot their guns downward they would have supremely hosed her up. Middy was just being a good guard/knight/dog.
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So here's a thought. The Ascians as an organization are done, probably, but the concept of a body hopping sorcerous rear end in a top hat as an antagonist just got diversified a bunch. There's also the distinct possibility that some Ascians might decide to join Team Azem because the alternative of working for Fandaniel is too horrible a prospect.
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lohgrif as gaia is technically already an ally, she just presumably wants to live as a normal girl for the forseeable future
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It's gonna own when she breaks up with Ryne and instantly goes "all right, enough of being a normal girl, time for Ardor".
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I figure that Ryne, Gaia and Unukalhai will be back when we inevitably ride into the 13th to punch Scathach in the face and bring back form to the formless. Perhaps while riding Eden into the Shard while 'Party Party Party' plays.
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Is Scathach still meant to be kicking around, she seemed pretty expired after we killed her and then Diablos devoured her remains and then we killed him
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We are not actually SURE, I don't think, what happens to Voidsent, especially powerful Voidsent, when you kill them. There's been a lingering notion that destroying a Voidsent's body just sends them back to the Void and the 13th to reform. Keep in mind, Lahabrea didn't actually die until his aether was completely exhausted in the Eye during the act of summoning Shinryu, and Lahabrea was barely hanging on to any sense of his self at the time he got shoved in the Eye.
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I think we'll probably get at least 1 ascian ally who takes the rhyming narrative role of FuSoYa or Redeemed Golbez
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CYBEReris posted:I think we'll probably get at least 1 ascian ally who takes the rhyming narrative role of FuSoYa or Redeemed Golbez Considering the masks on Shadowhunter's belt, I'm guessing probably Altima. Altima was also the only Ascian during the 2.3 meeting whose response to 'This is impossible, the insects are winning!' was essentially 'Did you not expect them to start catching up?'
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Gearhead posted:We are not actually SURE, I don't think, what happens to Voidsent, especially powerful Voidsent, when you kill them. There's been a lingering notion that destroying a Voidsent's body just sends them back to the Void and the 13th to reform. Keep in mind, Lahabrea didn't actually die until his aether was completely exhausted in the Eye during the act of summoning Shinryu, and Lahabrea was barely hanging on to any sense of his self at the time he got shoved in the Eye. Wasn't the whole point of the Nullstone that it could permanently gently caress up Voidsent?
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Hunter Noventa posted:Wasn't the whole point of the Nullstone that it could permanently gently caress up Voidsent? It could be used to force Voidsent to do things, and perhaps permanently gently caress them up. Diablos used it to hoover Scathach's power into himself. We then went on a very enthusiastic walk all over his face and blew him into tiny pieces even FASTER than the beating we gave Thordan. I wouldn't count Scathach out on making a comeback if it suits narrative purposes, much like how I don't see us being done with Cloud of Darkness or the 13th. Especially when the lore itself gives Scathach's reasons for getting beaten so easily to begin with that the Mhach had to bind her into a deliberately frail vessel just to stand a chance of shoving her in a box. (And this was when THEY had the Voidstone.)
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Gearhead posted:We are not actually SURE, I don't think, what happens to Voidsent, especially powerful Voidsent, when you kill them. There's been a lingering notion that destroying a Voidsent's body just sends them back to the Void and the 13th to reform. Keep in mind, Lahabrea didn't actually die until his aether was completely exhausted in the Eye during the act of summoning Shinryu, and Lahabrea was barely hanging on to any sense of his self at the time he got shoved in the Eye. Where are you getting this idea that Lahabrea hung around until Shinryu? I thought people were basically in agreement that he died when Thordan basically obliterated the fucker. And honestly, the question about 'could Scathach come back' grapples less with 'how' and more with 'why'. Sure, there's loopholes in the lore of the Mhach raids that would let her come back, but is there a reason that they'd specifically decide to bring her back in a future story? Cleretic fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Feb 27, 2021 |
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Cleretic posted:Where are you getting this idea that Lahabrea hung around until Shinryu? I seem to recall that there was an interview where they said that Lahabrea was finally, completely finished off with the summoning of Shinryu. But I could also be misremembering.
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i guess in the sense that he got ate by thordan using nidhoggs eye and then the eye got popped sure
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Gearhead posted:I seem to recall that there was an interview where they said that Lahabrea was finally, completely finished off with the summoning of Shinryu. But I could also be misremembering. I'd assume the idea would be that Lahabrea's essence was still contained within the Eye after the initial absorption, so he was technically still around and if his essence could have been extracted he could have reconstituted himself eventually, but the remaining aether in the Eye being burned in the process of summoning Shinryu essentially finished him off.
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Elidibus wasn't killed, he's just trapped in the Tower, right?
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If he's not actually dead, he's functionally dead.
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Bruceski posted:Elidibus wasn't killed, he's just trapped in the Tower, right? Elidibus (and probably Lahabrea from what I'm hearing) both essentially got disintegrated into their constituent aether in a way that'd be impossible to reassemble them. Sure, all of Elidibus' aether is in the First's Crystal Tower, but you can't exactly pull him back OUT in one piece. The same thing happened to one of the lesser red-masked Ascians, Emmerololth, who was similarly ripped apart and thrown into the Lifestream, and notes left by the Students of Baldesion suggest that's not something you can bring a living human being back from. Eureka took years to salvage an island full of things that are rather less complicated than 'a living sentient soul', and hosed it up so hard that water ran backwards. Cleretic fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Feb 27, 2021 |
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Eureka lore sounds cool... meanwhile I am stuck in Pagos 
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If Lahabrea were salvageable, Elidibus would have pulled him out of the Eye when he had it. Plus I'm pretty sure King Thordan ate him, not the Eye.
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