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Elidibus was 100% a child as well. His shade's appearance at the end wasn't small just "so it could look more depressed" or any poo poo like that. Elidibus was 100% a child. In every Echo memory flash back with him, he is looking up at the other Ancients. And in one of the flashbacks they say how he is "so consumed with his studies" instead of enjoying the nice weather. Elidibus was a child who just wanted to be the hero. This also creates a link to the questing you did at the beginning of 5.3 with.... children who want to be the Warrior of Light. This all makes me feel like the writers had just finished reading "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas"
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2020 00:11 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 13:08 |
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hobbesmaster posted:Pictured, the twins bickering in 6.0: I knew exactly what this video would be before I clicked it and it still made me chuckle.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2020 19:11 |
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Fister Roboto posted:At first I thought "hey that sounds a lot like Spira and Sin" and then I realized how much Spira reflects our own world. And then I got sad. Wasn't the whole story of FFX a reference to Japan's political climate or something like that?
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2020 00:22 |
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So wait - Venat and Fandaniel are two different ascians, right? Or are they the same? We saw Venat in 5.2 and Fandaniel in 5.3, but I thought they were both using the Asahi body?
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2020 23:02 |
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Copycat Zero posted:We've never seen Venat outside of the records in Anyder showing the anti-Convocation getting ready to summon Hydaelen. Everyone was throwing around the theory that "Asahi" would turn out to be Venat since he seemed to be aligned against Zodiark (insofar as egging Zenos on to eat Him). Ah okay yeah, that's where I got confused. It was 5.1 when people assumed that the figure was Venat. I just went and re-watched those post-story scenes to remind myself what happens - 5.1 - Zenos watching the army annihilate opposition, complains about how easy it is. White-robed Ascian shows up, does not name himself, just claims to be "another dog without a master," and says he knows Zenos wants Zodiark. 5.2 - Zenos has dreams of the Final Days. White-robed Ascian is amazed and promises to tell him the story. It really does feel like with Elidibus dead, they're very much setting the stage for the game to go TTGL with Hydaelyn vs Zodiark.
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2020 23:17 |
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Zenos owns. Haters vacate.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2020 05:47 |
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All of you that are screaming "ELIDIBUS ISNT A CHILD" are the densest motherfuckers on the planet. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2020 00:42 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:I hope the last leg of the Neir raid pulls more from Neir OG. We've had one whole raid of Machine Lifeform tech, one whole one of Yorha poo poo. Give me some Shades. I would assume the final part of the raid will involve the Tower, Devils/Popola, and A2.
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2020 03:43 |
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Regy Rusty posted:There better fuckin be Emil that's all I gotta say Yeah. Emil, A2, Devola/Popola, Some Other Boss, would make 4 bosses.
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2020 04:42 |
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Rand Brittain posted:At this point they've had multiple opportunities to make it clear that Elidibus was an Actual Kid and passed them by, so...
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2020 21:09 |
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Jetrauben posted:why did Lahabrea make a fem-ifrit Why did mortals make a male Ifrita?
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2020 22:25 |
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I think the thing that I absolutely love about the FFXIV story (and specifically Shadowbringers) is how much Zodiark has been recontexualized from "he's a big evil god." Because he's not a big evil god. He is a primal summoned to save the world. And he did just that.
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# ¿ Sep 13, 2020 18:14 |
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jokes posted:Like 8 pages ago they talked about how Zodiark and Hydaelyn aren’t evil and that got me thinking. Who actually is evil in FFXIV? Gaius is/was a misguided fascist making amends, he’s close. Zenos is so aloof the concept of villainy doesn’t even enter his brain, enough he might not be considered an actual person. Nidhogg is also a misguided dude, but is seeking revenge against innocents for a justifiably heinous sleight. Even the progenitors of Ishgard who stole the dragons’ eyes probably had a solid, justifiable, and understandable reason to be assholes. Probably something about a Cold War with dragons if their alliance ever shifted so they needed to be prepared. It's almost like the concepts of "good and evil" are all a matter of perspective. Good thing they didn't happen to just release a patch that brings up that very point.
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2020 16:10 |
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I’m excited for 6.0’s main new feature: Zenos Everywhere.
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2020 21:44 |
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https://twitter.com/Dragoncloud64/status/1304188114303250432
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2020 06:52 |
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thetoughestbean posted:Primals made by sundered folks do. Hydaelyn’s been around since forever and hasn’t eaten everything Hydaelyn probably told you that, didn't she?
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2020 21:40 |
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Mister Olympus posted:How the game resolves this question will probably say a lot about the course and themes of 6.0 in general and how much is changing from the last three attempts at nation rebuilding, under the different contexts. It's also implying that internal issues in those three nations probably aren't done yet, all things considered. I feel like it has been the trend in FFXIV that the side content in one expansion works as a small scale version of the greater story/themes of the expansion that will immediately follow. So this would track with what I would expect. The themes in Bozja are likely going to be echoed in greater detail in 6.0.
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2020 22:16 |
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Just like Obama.
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2020 07:09 |
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The best thing about Drakengard is how all the party members are loving atrocious criminals
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2020 14:33 |
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Cephas posted:Nier 1 is rough around the edges but is such an inspired game overall, the remake(???) is going to be wonderful. I’m still mad that it’s only brother nier. Papa nier is far superior.
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2020 16:47 |
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Chillgamesh posted:Lol what if there's a part in 6.0 MSQ where you go to the moon and meet Zodiark face to face and it turns out that the echo only protects you from being tempered by normie primals and zodiark gets your rear end for a good stretch of the story My assumption for 6.0 is that the first five zones will all be Garlemald, with the 5th zone being the capital city. Zenos and/or Fandaniel will be the trial boss at level 89 (like Innocence), then the final zone will be the Moon. The 24-man trial will be the Lunatic Pandora.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2020 22:33 |
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Waffleman_ posted:I would love if the endgame hub is just the moon. How the hell did you get up here, Rowena Lol. Just as the end-game hub for Shadowbringers isn’t in the Tempest, I’d assume the same if we go to the moon.
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2020 07:19 |
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I don’t know about you all but I am extremely loving excited to see whatever the next expansion ends up being. Shadowbringers completely blew my mind in a way I didn’t think was possible and this is THE conclusion they have been building toward for a decade. I hope it’s not disappointing, but I have faith in them to deliver. At this point though, I have zero clue how this is all going to play out in the end so I’m just excited to be excited. It’s also nice because the expansion announcement comes the day after my birthday. So it’s like a little present to me. Also - since all the fan fests are cancelled, we should just get one massive info drop since they don’t need to spread it across three events, so that will be nice too.
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2020 14:14 |
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I'm so excited to see the discussion that comes from all the submitted ideas in the expansion announcement contest. There's some... interesting ideas that people have.
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# ¿ Jan 26, 2021 02:57 |
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I feel like, with this expansion, there is so much that seems obvious but then I realize that there is so much that could be literally loving anything.
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# ¿ Jan 26, 2021 03:37 |
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Itzena posted:E: the Ascians do keep talking about "resurrecting" their God - would be funny if Zenos wanders up to this giant mostly-dead crystal and does his Code Geass Eye thing and Zodiark just eats his soul with a "Since when were you the one in charge?" Honestly, that's kind of what I've been expecting.
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2021 19:02 |
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Waffleman_ posted:Also no color in the JP name it seems. Dawn of Finale. Oh wow. No color this time?
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2021 02:45 |
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You know that scene in Infinity War where Doctor Strange is checking every possible future? I just assumed the Warrior of Light could do the same with boss fights.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2021 22:17 |
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Was just thinking about the Ardbert/Seto reunion in 5.3. I don’t think anything in this game has made me break harder than that cutscene. Just rewatched it and it broke me all over again.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2021 03:12 |
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Cleretic posted:I should also point out that right now Gaius is a fascist locked in a Gundam story. I want him to survive just so he can see Garlemald destroyed in 6.0. I mean, have you see the art for the Garlemald capital? That place looks like a nuke went off. Only after he loses his family and his country... then he can die.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2021 03:18 |
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Gaius is infinitely more attractive than Emet.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2021 08:09 |
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I just wanted to say that I really appreciate this thread and everyone in it. We’ve had a multi-page discussion about the topic of fascism, which can often lead to heated arguments. Despite people in this thread disagreeing with each other, the thread has remained very readable and engaging. Compare this to the WoW thread where they had to ban any fascism/nazi talk due to both the quality of the game writing and the quality of the posts. Basically - I love you all and I have enjoyed reading this discussion.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2021 20:43 |
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Chillgamesh posted:As lame and inadequate as it feels to say this, I don't think Merlwyb ever viewed the oppression of the Kobolds and Sahagin as something that was desirable or good, while Gaius definitely thought that the only way the world would ever see peace is under Imperial dominion. I mean, I think one person hit the nail on the head when they said Gaius has consistently seen the Empire not as something that could fail but only something that could be failed. Look at how he reacts when he sees Zenos slay Varis. Dude immediately tries to run in and save the dying emperor. And this is AFTER he already had knowledge of the Black Rose.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2021 20:48 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:He still believes in the Empire, the ascians just led them down a bad path is all! So he's gotta kill them all so the empire can get back to doing the good work they were meant to. Exactly. Gaius is a true believer. That’s why he deserves punishment and scorn in the way that someone like Merlwyb doesn’t. Gaius saw his unshakable faith as strength and the whole Weapon storyline is punishing him for that.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2021 20:54 |
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Chillgamesh posted:If the person never sees why what they've done is wrong, retribution almost certainly isn't going to make them do it, I agree. The thing with Gaius though is that the "punishment" he's facing is of entirely his own making. Yeah. It’s less punishment and more consequences.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2021 21:22 |
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That’s the thing though - the final fight of each savage tier will often have extra phases, but Extremes usually don’t add complete different phases, just twists on the phases that were already there. You’re not generally going to see something like the NED fight in a trial.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2021 00:59 |
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WrightOfWay posted:Shinryu EX had the Shinryu on the ground phase, which wasn't in normal. I mean, that’s still Shinryu though - just posing differently. He didn’t go through some massive transformation. Compare that to Exdeath->Neo-Exdeath.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2021 01:27 |
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Nebrilos posted:Forgive me if these questions are naive. I seem to be bad at picking up subtext. And text. The Emperor was kind of a dumbass. Hope that helps. Real answer - he may have known the Ascians were “complete” but by making humans “more complete,” he assumed he could muster a greater challenge. Nebrilos posted:The Emperor criticizes Gridania for trying to summon the Twelve in order to deal with Meteor, but why does no one point out that the Empire is responsible for Meteor? He’s a hypocrite. It’s like arguing with a nazi on Twitter. Nebrilos posted:The flood of darkness that destroyed the Thirteenth rendered it useless to the Ascians, but they were behind the flood of light on the First, which would have also rendered it useless. What was their actual plan on the First supposed to be? They weren’t planning on letting it get to the state of the 13th. They wanted to create a great imbalance to force a rejoining but Ardbert’s crew outsmarted them, which accidentally tipped things too far. Nebrilos posted:I feel like Tsukuyomi's summoning was completely avoidable. "Tsuyu"'s reaction to her parents showed she was starting to regain her memories, and she's shown she is capable of escaping the Doman Enclave, so they should have had someone accompanying her at all times. Her brother's outbursts to the WoL should have shown that he was not on the up-and-up, so they should have had someone escorting him any time he was in the Doman Enclave. Either of these measures would have prevented the tragedy. You know the phrase “suicide by cop”? Yotsuyu wanted “suicide by WoL” Someone else can handle the rest.
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2021 01:21 |
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MASSIVE 5.5 DATAMINE SPOILER - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2021 07:41 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 13:08 |
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The skyscraper in the raid is Square Enix headquarters -
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